i would be honored.

[QUOTE=Mattijuana;15781451]I'd probably like Burzum more if I didn't know about Varg's background...

a psychotic aryan supremacist that's in jail for killing someone and burning down a bunch of churches?[/QUOTE]
I suppose his conduct would be offensive to those of lower races.

It's not offensive in the slightest :confused:

I meant that I think it'd be better if he wasn't in jail and still making black metal...

Clearly Varg's actions make Burzum much more elite simply because of the fact he was willing to act on his hate of christianity instead of just tolerating it.

[QUOTE=Mattijuana;15781504]I meant that I think it'd be better if he wasn't in jail and still making black metal...[/QUOTE]

How would more Black Metal releases from Burzum make anything he has already done 'better'?

[QUOTE=Mattijuana;15781451]I'd probably like Burzum more if I didn't know about Varg's background...

a psychotic aryan supremacist that's in jail for killing someone and burning down a bunch of churches?[/QUOTE]
whats important to me when i listen is the music, not the beliefs of the artist. I don't really consider Varg "psychotic" anyway, from what I've seen of his writing/interviews he is extremely intelligent and makes some good points.

sounds like the review site now loll

we're under attack.

[QUOTE=Slaapkamers;15781846]sounds like the review site now loll[/QUOTE]
haha sorry :p
it's just really annoying to hear people say they won't listen to an artist because of their personal beliefs

Varg is a smart kid.

He really isn't that special, I have not read too much of his **** because I have read quite a few things that I later found were big inspirations for him so there is no point in reading some Norweigan teenagers version of it. Just most kiddies are stupid and think he is some amazing intellectual when really much of his work is derived from a few select philosophies combined with a heavy dose of Norse supremacy.

I'm aware of that but he's definitely not a "stupid" individual by any means.

I don't think anyone is aware of the fact that there has never been any proof of Varg's involvement in any arson, and there has been no proof that the murder was not in self defense.

Regardless, he isn't the most groundbreaking, intellectual person ever, as most zealots of the genre believe; however, he is far from uneducated, and not without wit. Also, he is far from psychotic...extremely devout in his belief system, but not to the point of psychosis. He simply hangs on the edge of zealotry himself.


On other subjects, is Catamenia's [I]Location: Cold [/I]worth getting? I have [I]Winternight Tragedies [/I]and I enjoy it.

[QUOTE]I don't think anyone is aware of the fact that there has never been any proof of Varg's involvement in any arson, and there has been no proof that the murder was not in self defense.[/QUOTE]

It's pretty obvious he doesn't need to admit anything. The aspects of his story that aren't true he was quick inform otherwise and he never even disputed the church burnings.

[QUOTE]On other subjects, is Catamenia's Location: Cold worth getting? I have Winternight Tragedies and I enjoy it.[/QUOTE]

They're melodic black metal, which I don't like, but I could see you liking them.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15782672]It's pretty obvious he doesn't need to admit anything. The aspects of his story that aren't true he was quick inform otherwise and he never even disputed the church burnings. [/quote]

He has specifically explained, to the minute detail, everything that happened that night and in the weeks surrounding it. No one else has released even a statement disputing otherwise.

And he has specifically said that while he won't deny ever being involved in arson, he was not a part of the 4 charges against him, and that it was worthless to dispute them in court because they were hell bent on shuffling them through along with the murder charge anyway.



[quote]They're melodic black metal, which I don't like, but I could see you liking them.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I'm aware of what they are....I was asking if the album was worth getting....I have one of thier other ones and I do enjoy it.


Why don't you like melodic black metal?

[QUOTE]He has specifically explained, to the minute detail, everything that happened that night and in the weeks surrounding it. No one else has released even a statement disputing otherwise.[/QUOTE]

What night? The night he killed someone, the night he burned down a church, the night he escaped from prison and was found with explosives on him? It's not like he burned down a church and two weeks later he killed someone. It was probably over a good period of time.

[QUOTE]Why don't you like melodic black metal?[/QUOTE]

Just not a fan of much melody in my black metal.

melody and black metal don't mix

also I find it very unlikely that Varg didn't have anything to do with the burning of the Fantoft Stave burning. not saying he started the fire but he was definitely involved.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15782849]What night? The night he killed someone, the night he burned down a church, the night he escaped from prison and was found with explosives on him? It's not like he burned down a church and two weeks later he killed someone. It was probably over a good period of time. [/quote]

Oh, sorry. I was referring to Euronymous' death.

And while he probably did burn down churches, I don't think that justifies convicting him of 4 counts of arson that he didn't commit.

I also don't support convictions without tangible proof, whether he did it or not.

[quote]Just not a fan of much melody in my black metal.[/QUOTE]

I see.

[QUOTE=Apocalypticon;15782878]melody and black metal don't mix

also I find it very unlikely that Varg didn't have anything to do with the burning of the Fantoft Stave burning. not saying he started the fire but he was definitely involved.[/QUOTE]
There are a few good melodic black metal bands.

[QUOTE=rattlehead42147;15782883]There are a few good melodic black metal bands.[/QUOTE]

such as?

I'm just excited to see him get out. Not because I care, but just because I'd like to see what he's still capable music-wise.

[QUOTE=Apocalypticon;15782894]such as?[/QUOTE]

There's no point in mentioning any, because you have a predetermined notion that that type of music isn't good. You will think anything anybody mentions of that type is not good.

Austin: He has recently flat out stated on his site that he will not be releasing any more material, and he recently quit even accepting outside correspondance.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15782900]I'm just excited to see him get out. Not because I care, but just because I'd like to see what he's still capable music-wise.[/QUOTE]

Yeah me too, I just hope he behaves so he can be free long enough to make music. :p

[QUOTE=Valhall;15782902]There's no point in mentioning any, because you have a predetermined notion that that type of music isn't good. You will think anything anybody mentions of that type is not good.[/QUOTE]

or maybe because it is because I have probably heard all the bands you are gonna recommend. I know my black metal. I've sorted through the bullsh[I]i[/I]t. I have a preconceived notion of this genre because I have listened to lots of bands from the genre. I'm not stupid, when I dislike a subgenre or whatever you want to call it I dislike it for a reason.

Dislike /=/ not good.

I believe most of the major bands of any genre are objectively good at writing and performing thier respective kind of music.


And I wasn't saying anything to attack you. I'm just saying there wouldn't be a point in him bringing anything up because we all know what the reaction would be, from either previous listening or preconcieved notion....either one.

[QUOTE=Valhall;15782933]Dislike /=/ not good.[/QUOTE]

Umm...

[quote]Dislike /=/ not good.[/quote]


......

Uhmm...

/Joins

........lol

Just because someone dislikes something doesn't mean it's not objectively well performed or written. It's not a difficult concept.


Regardless, I respect that it's not everyone's thing. Some of us happen to like it; some of us don't.