[QUOTE=Luc214;18207259]anyone into Starkey?

Only US dub I've heard (besides Rusko who doesn't count due to how terrible he is) thats pretty sick[/QUOTE]

There's tons of good american dubstep, in a couple of years they'll be more quality north american dubstep than compared to the UK.

Either way, gtfo.

[QUOTE=Luc214;18208810]tbh burial was my gateway dub lol[/QUOTE]

yeah me too

and katy b can suck my fucking dick, the slut

Katy is a useless cunt.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18209325]There's tons of good american dubstep, in a couple of years they'll be more quality north american dubstep than compared to the UK.[/QUOTE]

lol

I could easily write an essay detailing british abatement in many forms of media.

implying anyone cares

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18210286]I could easily write an essay detailing british abatement in many forms of media.[/QUOTE]

who the fuck cares faggot

[QUOTE=2muchket!;18210311]implying anyone cares[/QUOTE]

Just sayin: dubstep - like every other genre of music originated or refined in the UK - will eventually see the UK pass the torch to NA.

I'm not expecting anyone to care, I'm just an observing the facts.:cool:

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18210514]Just sayin: dubstep - like every other genre of music originated or refined in the UK - will eventually see the UK pass the torch to NA.

I'm not expecting anyone to care, I'm just an observing the facts.:cool:[/QUOTE]

once again lol

Instead of being a retard, why don't you exercise your fat fingers and type out some sort of corresponding argument.

by the time NA does anything its no longer relevant

so

[QUOTE]once again lol[/QUOTE]

That's a gross overstatement akin to a gr 11 pitchfork reader would say but I can see what you're getting at.

Ugh, I almost don't wanna argue with retards but here I go. So when Flying Lotus releasing shit in 2006 dubstep was already irrelevant?

[quote=highanddriving;18210524]instead of being a retard, why don't you exercise your fat fingers and type out some sort of corresponding argument.[/quote]

get at me

You're worthless, at least Surf has some limited intelligence. You just take up space, and a lot of it at that

flying lotus is so dubstep

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18210557]That's a gross overstatement akin to a gr 11 pitchfork reader would say but I can see what you're getting at.

Ugh, I almost don't wanna argue with retards but here I go. So when Flying Lotus releasing shit in 2006 dubstep was already irrelevant?[/QUOTE]

the stuff lotus released in 06 had very little relevance to dubstep

anyway, it doesn't matter. you can mention individual artists, but in terms of the scene, na is constantly playing catchup.

in other genres its the other way round.

she got her feet on my dashboard pushing on my buttons

"the stuff lotus released in 06 had very little relevance to dubstep"

You're right; that was just a quick example. As you know, I could list more.

"anyway, it doesn't matter. you can mention individual artists, but in terms of the scene, na is constantly playing catchup."

Agreed but I said, "in a couple of years they'll be more quality north american dubstep than compared to the UK." So while they are indeed playing catch up now, they won't be in due time.

"in other genres its the other way round."

You mean present non-NA bands playing catch up to present NA bands? Ya I guess, for the large majority.

no you're a fucking moron you namedropped FlyLo even though he's completely irrelevant to the dubstep scene in an effort to seem like you're semi literate, just back out now before you make an even bigger fool of yourself if that's even possible

Oh, the doofus speaks. Flying Lotus does have elements of dubstep and has dubstep centric releases. See: Shhh!

but he's irrelevant to the dubstep scene

i wouldn't say he's irrelevant; he made it onto the 5 years of hyperdub comp - he's clearly present in the scene, just not a major part of it.

[QUOTE]Agreed but I said, "in a couple of years they'll be more quality north american dubstep than compared to the UK." So while they are indeed playing catch up now, they won't be in due time.[/QUOTE]

by which time there'll be something new and no one will be paying it any attention anymore.

Irrelevant to an irrelevant scene.:confused:

Ok, I should have used an artist along the lines of Excision, Datsik, Triage and DZ.

i find those guys pretty cookie cutter

and datsik is canadian

only us dub I think is really worth mentioning along with top uk artists is starkey

There are a lot of good NA dubstep artists already tbh, but it's already changing and has changed a lot since I got into it 3/4 years ago - and it's uk artists who are doing something new like pariah, james blake and mount kimbie. Nearest equivalent to them would be FaltyDL.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18210631]Oh, the doofus speaks. Flying Lotus does have elements of dubstep and has dubstep centric releases. See: Shhh![/QUOTE]

Or his split with Joker

anyone know the song around the 3:30 mark?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZW3imUFyK8[/url]

[QUOTE=Luc214;18210751]i find those guys pretty cookie cutter

and datsik is canadian

only us dub I think is really worth mentioning along with top uk artists is starkey[/QUOTE]

Oh you're right: datsik is canadian, and therefor can't be counted as a NA band.:lol:


[QUOTE=Deviant.;18211070]Or his split with Joker[/QUOTE]
Ya there is some more too. P.s nice dig.


[QUOTE=2muchket!;18211042]There are a lot of good NA dubstep artists already tbh, but it's already changing and has changed a lot since I got into it 3/4 years ago - and it's uk artists who are doing something new like pariah, james blake and mount kimbie. Nearest equivalent to them would be FaltyDL.[/QUOTE]

For now, yes, but all of those artists are distancing themselves from the dubstep genre. And the UK is also killing the genre with Rusko, Katyb and whoever. NA dubber will most likely stay loyal to the genre and overtake the UK in a few years while more and more musicians, like the ones you mention, will continue to branch off and become something new.

In recent memory especially with electronic genres I can find examples to contradict you hnd.

The only house artist from NA really relevant and truly excellent is deadmau5, the rest are all lagging behind the french electro house artists. Especially sebastian.

Same thing with trip hop, dominated by british artists, only artist that really came close was DJ Shadow on Endtroducing.

EDIT: Rusko's finding an audience further afield now though, he'll be influencing more artists as he gets bigger in NA so I wouldn't be so sure on that. Pretty preposterous notion that the NA scene is the least likely to become generic and mainstream though. In fact it's pretty fucking stupid thing to say.

Please remember I'm referring specifically to the UK in correlation to NA.

There are many NA electro/house acts that are relevant: MSTRKRFT, Steve Aoki (ugh), Drop The Lime and Armand Van Helden; those are just some of the popular ones. But ya, NA is always gonna lag behind French and Italian Electro.

Trip Hop is dominated by british artists similar cause very of it's small exposure; no one is really trying to take a stab at it other than people from the UK. It may go the route of dubstep and find a large audience overseas but I think it's gonna stay pretty much confided to the UK.

Frank, idk how you're gonna make it as a lawyer when you can't even analyse someone's argument properly. Maybe you can do paralegal work or something. I didn't purpose the NA scene is the least likely to become generic and mainstream - please try and focus. NA is most likely going to have a larger volume of generic and mainstream dubbers once they overtake the uk in quality volume too; the two correlate most of the time. Deadmau5 is trying his hand at dubstep, he released a pretty good song, so that'll most likely touch people's ears before Rusko ever has the chance. Hopefully.

[quote]The only house artist from NA really relevant and truly excellent is deadmau5,[/quote]

loooooooool

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18211859]Please remember I'm referring specifically to the UK in correlation to NA.

There are many NA electro/house acts that are relevant: MSTRKRFT, Steve Aoki (ugh), Drop The Lime and Armand Van Helden; those are just some of the popular ones. But ya, NA is always gonna lag behind French and Italian Electro.

Trip Hop is dominated by british artists similar cause very of it's small exposure; no one is really trying to take a stab at it other than people from the UK. It may go the route of dubstep and find a large audience overseas but I think it's gonna stay pretty much confided to the UK.

Frank, idk how you're gonna make it as a lawyer when you can't even analyse someone's argument properly. Maybe you can do paralegal work or something. I didn't purpose the NA scene is the least likely to become generic and mainstream - please try and focus. NA is most likely going to have a larger volume of generic and mainstream dubbers once they overtake the uk in quality volume too; the two correlate most of the time. Deadmau5 is trying his hand at dubstep, he released a pretty good song, so that'll most likely touch people's ears before Rusko ever has the chance. Hopefully.[/QUOTE]

trip hop small exposure ? really ?

Other than that I can see what you're getting at, still remains to be seen if in actuality it happens.

Fucking lol at you trying to to infer my advocacy skills are poor, think I made it pretty clear to adb I don't take internet debates or 'arguments' really that seriously. If you want a critical analysis of this subject gimme half a day I'll bash one out.

Well I would but lol taking internet that srs.

Anyway getting away from this bullshit and to stop HnD posturing and make Luc look stupider anyone ever listened to Kingdom ? Some good dubstep with actual decent prominent garage influences.

by the time na start producing dubstep of the quantity/quality hnd is talking about

no one will give a shit about the genre anymore

[QUOTE=2muchket!;18212089]anyone ever listened to Kingdom ? Some good dubstep with actual decent prominent garage influences.[/QUOTE]

super yes. him and Girl Unit have been making waves lately with that Night Slugs hybrid sound. speaking of NS, next up on their catalogue: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQi8FSRmVTc[/url] gonna be nuts

[QUOTE=Wish;18212090][url]http://www.getdarker.com/audio/dubplates/Joker--TC-Aint-Got-A-Name/[/url]

You're welcome/no problem etc[/QUOTE]
thanks, I should of known it was something of Joker's

[QUOTE=Happymeal;18212506]super yes. him and Girl Unit have been making waves lately with that Night Slugs hybrid sound. speaking of NS, next up on their catalogue: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQi8FSRmVTc[/url] gonna be nuts[/QUOTE]

yeah I downloaded Girl Unit's IRL ep at the same time haven't listened yet though

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18211811]Oh you're right: datsik is canadian, and therefor can't be counted as a NA band.:lol:


[/QUOTE]

originally we were talking US faggot

Point out where we were referring strictly to the US and I'll give you a cookie.

If you can't, please gtfo, before your stupidity rubs off on ppl like Frankie even more.

Impressed with Girl Unit as well, have to pay more attention to Night Slugs from now on.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18209325]There's tons of good american dubstep[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18209325]american dubstep[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18209325][size=9]american dubstep[/size][/QUOTE]

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