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ToRidTheDisease 11-30-2004 03:02 PM

Sounds like an awesome box set, I wonder if it will top STTA.

Josh 11-30-2004 03:05 PM

^STTA? i really should find out more about sabbath...

ToRidTheDisease 11-30-2004 03:06 PM

[QUOTE=sack-man]^STTA? i really should find out more about sabbath...[/QUOTE]
No, it's Slayer - Soundtrack To The Apocolypse, IMO the best box set ever.

Brew 11-30-2004 03:06 PM

STTA?

Even I'm lost on that one.

^^Ah, now it makes sense with the above post.

Josh 11-30-2004 03:11 PM

ah - if its slayer it explains why i didnt have a clue

ToRidTheDisease 11-30-2004 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=sack-man]ah - if its slayer it explains why i didnt have a clue[/QUOTE]
Don't like them?

Josh 11-30-2004 03:46 PM

dont mind them. raining bloods a class song. never really listened to them much though, dont know much about them.

JACKROXYOU 11-30-2004 05:52 PM

a box set!!! JUST IN TIME. im broke

sounds good when i get what? 50 60 bucks?

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 04:36 AM

i dont think it will cost that much, but even if it does i will still buy it

i dont know what i would prefer an ozzy tour or a sabbath tour

kredkeee! 12-01-2004 11:30 AM

I would definitely like a Sabbath tour more, just because all i know of Ozzy is No More Tears (yet great). And it would be great even if they toured without Ozzy. Dio or TMartin instead...

^^^Slayer? I don't like them much. Raining blood IS class (as said before), but.... they seem a bit too much like DUMDUMDUMDUM with drums and guitar... (just opinion dont flame me for it, i dont KNOW them very much as well)

Josh 12-01-2004 12:38 PM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]i dont think it will cost that much, but even if it does i will still buy it

i dont know what i would prefer an ozzy tour or a sabbath tour[/QUOTE]
i'd probably pay anything up to about £30 for a box set like that

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 01:58 PM

an ozzy with sabbath tour would probably be better, but they never do big tours of the uk (wankers), alot of the time they will do birmingham and a few others

so i think i would prefer an ozzy one, as he tours almost all of the uk areas

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 02:12 PM

ok this may just be me but i just listened to most of the heaven and hell album and it really did not appeal to me, i couldnt hear the inensity that sabbath had when ozzy was with them, it may have been the bad quality but i think that dio's voice is way to high pitched in some of the songs

also he sounds a bit like blaze bailey from a former version of iron maiden to me, he has the same kind of power metal voice


but again it may have been the quality of the site/sound

Brew 12-01-2004 02:14 PM

Dio does have a voice more suited to power metal on albums, but live its alot deeper and more ''metal''.

The lyrics on H&H took a bit of a power metal turn, but not far enough for it to be classed as Power Metal.

I listened to H&H earlier when I was doing some work, I hadn't heard it all the way through for ages and I enjoyed it :)


Also, Blaze has a pretty good voice, his solo work is quite good.

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 02:17 PM

i still dont like him much, i will listen to some other stuff by Dio but so far im still an ozzy fan

just listened to solitude i think its much better than planet caravan


also i cant say that im a huge power metal fan (i have no idea what proper power metal is)

Brew 12-01-2004 02:20 PM

^Good man.

Solitude > Planet Caravan.

Proper power metal? Hmm...

I'd say stuff like Helloween, Dragonforce, Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody, Blackmoores Night etc...with the Blackmoores Night being more Folk Rock/Fantasy Rock than Power Metal, but still fitting into the same sub-genre of metal.

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 02:24 PM

my sister has a sonata arctica cd, im gonna go put it on and have a listen (after listening to some more of MOB rules)

have you heard megalomania on sabotage? its quite odd but not in the way of solitude and planet caravan

Brew 12-01-2004 02:25 PM

Yes yes yes, Megalomania = one of my fav. Sabbath songs.

I have a live version of it aswell, its fantastic.

I think the meaning behind Megalomania is linked to drugs, I'm not sure which one but I think its about tripping on acid.

I also have a live version of Sabbra Cadabra, that clocks in at just over 16minutes.

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 02:30 PM

bloody hell thats a long song, where did you get it from

one of my friends has a version of paranoid that has the maiden guitarists, zakk wydle steve haris, ozzys bassist of the time (no idea who it was), nicko (i think it was him) and ozzy's drummer all playing paranoid with Bruce and ozzy singing

its cool but at the same time the different styles each band has kind of clashes and makes it weired

Brew 12-01-2004 02:36 PM

Cool, I might try and find it.

Sabbra Cadabra clocks in at just over 16mins because they break off into a lonng jam in the middle, followed by a small drum solo which is pretty groovey. Also at one point Ozzy shouts ''c'mon, lets all get stoned!'', which made me laugh.

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 02:38 PM

im surprised it hasnt been banned for its lyrical content

metallica butchered that song :upset:

Brew 12-01-2004 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]im surprised it hasnt been banned for its lyrical content

metallica butchered that song :upset:[/QUOTE]

I haven't heard the Metallica cover.

I feel special.

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 02:43 PM

its really bad compared to the origional, lars leaves out almost all of the fills and when he does do them he makes most of them more simple, im not sure if kirk does the solo bit near the start of the song

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 02:46 PM

why is the only sabbath video that is shown 'no stranger to love' when it is so ****e

except the VH cahnnels and sometimes MTV 2 which show stuff like iron man and paranoid

Brew 12-01-2004 02:47 PM

Bah Humbug.

They did good Misfits covers though.

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 02:50 PM

which song did they cover?

Brew 12-01-2004 02:51 PM

Last Caress
Die Die My Darling
Green Hell

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 02:53 PM

hmm didnt know that they were by the misfits, now im gonna have top get one of their albums

ToRidTheDisease 12-01-2004 03:05 PM

Weird coincedence you were talking about SA, i've listened to Full Moon about 5 times since I got home today.

Brew 12-01-2004 03:09 PM

^They're one of my fav. power metal bands.

Albums to get by the Misfits - American Psycho, Collection I + II and Project:1950

ToRidTheDisease 12-01-2004 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]^They're one of my fav. power metal bands.

Albums to get by the Misfits - American Psycho, Collection I + II and Project:1950[/QUOTE]
Legacy of Brutality is good too.

Brew 12-01-2004 03:15 PM

[QUOTE=LaihoRocker666]Legacy of Brutality is good too.[/QUOTE]

I don't have that yet, will do when I get for box set for christmas. :)

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 03:16 PM

i will probably get whichever one is cheaprer, but for now ill look into them

Brew 12-01-2004 03:24 PM

Happy hunting :thumb:

shadow_stalker 12-01-2004 03:26 PM

my black sabbath album has a huge scratch down it :angry:

i bet it was my cousins bastard kid

Brew 12-01-2004 03:30 PM

:angry:

Go and kick him in the shins, then the nuts, then the kidneys and finally the back of the head.

And make him buy a replacement copy.

JACKROXYOU 12-01-2004 04:30 PM

yea i lost heaven in hell cause of a scratch

sad day

Brew 12-01-2004 04:32 PM

My Sabbath albums are slightly jumpy, crackley and quite naff in some places.

Thats because they were copied off vinyl :)

JACKROXYOU 12-01-2004 04:36 PM

smooth move

i wish i had sabbath vinyls do you know where i can get em?

kredkeee! 12-02-2004 04:04 AM

What do you people think of the album Born Again with Ian Gillan of Deep Purple? I personally think it's pretty good except for the last two song. Most killer for me are the songs Disturbing the Priest, Born Again and Zero the Hero...

Also i think metallica's sabbra cadabra sounded really like ****... Have you heard the jam during Wicked World from the Past Lives album?


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