[QUOTE=sliver]so is anyone else sick of Maynard putting APC on priority and Tool in the gutter :upset:[/QUOTE]

Well I wouldnt necessarily say Tool are in the gutter, Tool has gotten alot of fans lately, or at least more people are finding out about them, and they're also working on their new album as we speak.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Yeah, but the APC reign is coming to an end, and Tool is once again the main issue


Well, once this cover/remix mess up is over[/QUOTE]

I wonder how that CD will turn out :confused: the covers they chose are definately ... interesting.

I heard some rumours about a new Tool CD comming out soon though, I wonder if Adam has played around with his guitar tone at all.

I think justin will have done more experimenting this time round than Adam, but im sure he will have created a lot of interssting sounds too.

New Tool CD = Early next year

And the cover of Imagine is one that I will look forward to

The band has been writing the music for the album. When Maynard is done wanking with APC he'll lay down the vox.

[QUOTE=Toolious<mopez>]but the dumb population of teenage youth dont listen to this and enjoy the music more that the lyrics[/QUOTE]
so your saying all teenagers are dumb?

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Well as long as his spiritual postion is never the back of the stage, then im fine with whatever way he faces. Ill take note of his drumset postion in live footage when I see it now




(Im assuming you're on ghost mode, is that a 307... mistake?)[/QUOTE]
whats ghost mode???....... anyways does any 1 know where i can see some live footage of tool cuz id like to see it.
id appreciate it :)

[url]http://www.musictelevisionsucks.net/search.php[/url]

Search for Tool

And ghost mode is a mod superpower. it allows them to contact the dead


I think a mod needs to set up the first page to include some of these FAQ answers, as although I dont mind, i've seen requests for live Tool footage and album release dates sooo many times now

I don't mind tool fans who haven't heard much of the band yet
I don't mind tool fans who have taken an interest in discussing and analysing the music

I [I]do[/I] mind any tool fan who thinks they are superior to the others, either because they have had the time and money to buy more albums, or because they have worked out the 'true' spiritual/musical meaning behind every second note on the albums.

All the messages that start "I love tool, but i hate [insert type of fan here] because..."
just start to get redunadant
There are no fandom rules, black and white [I]aren't[/I] all I see: there's a million shades of grey, since we all think for ourselves eventually. i hope we do....
:)
I think an FAQ on the frint page would be mucho handy! I'm impressed at your self control to answer the same questions so many times!!
Be patient (i must keep reminding myself of this, too)

Ok, I've just read the last 3 pages. What is going on with all this fan talk? we are attacking other tool fans, and criticising them and everything. My god people, this is a TOOL thread. PLease lets try to focus on the band and their music, and forget about the fans. this is not aobut us. and we shouldn't attack each other either. we are all here united to talk about tool. so please no more posts on, i hate these kinds of tool fans, and tool fans shud do this, and i hate it when tool fans do this. thats not what this thread is about. so lets get back on subject. thank u.

frint page?? redunadant??
**** typos!

I rethink my remark
I mind anyone who thinks they're superior to others, tool fan or not..
Ideally, the power of knowledge should be humbling, rather than intoxicating

i totally agree, deadohiosky, totally agree!

to get some balls rolling...
has anyone else tried to reorder the tracks of lateralus, like in that 'holy gift' theory that was floating around?
I tried last night, i've yet to finish removing silences and whatnot, but it sounds cool.
Certainly not a holy gift, but it nice to go back over the old songs, see them in a new light...
its like going into a room you've known for years and moving all the furniture around...maybe its worse off, but the change is fresh.

[QUOTE=an_underused_memory]i totally agree, deadohiosky, totally agree!

to get some balls rolling...
has anyone else tried to reorder the tracks of lateralus, like in that 'holy gift' theory that was floating around?
I tried last night, i've yet to finish removing silences and whatnot, but it sounds cool.
Certainly not a holy gift, but it nice to go back over the old songs, see them in a new light...
its like going into a room you've known for years and moving all the furniture around...maybe its worse off, but the change is fresh.[/QUOTE]

I haven't tried that yet. I don't know how to go about doing it. I guess I should just makea playlist in that order. ya that should work. I'm also going to try to listen to it late at night. Maybe something special will happen. Who knows

do you know the order, or do i have to figure it out myself?

Okay, I'm trying to get more into Tool. Can anybody reccomend me some good songs by them? I've got Schism and Sober, but what else is there?

[QUOTE=Nate22]Okay, I'm trying to get more into Tool. Can anybody reccomend me some good songs by them? I've got Schism and Sober, but what else is there?[/QUOTE]

Stinkfist, Eulogy, H., Hooker With A P.enis , Third Eye, Lateralus, Aenima, Ticks and Leeches, The Grudge, The Patient, Jimmy, Pus.hit, Parabol, Parabola, Reflection. THose are all good. Every Tool song is good in my opinion. But those are some suggesitons for you.

Sweet, thanks man.

No Problem.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD][url]http://www.musictelevisionsucks.net/search.php[/url]

Search for Tool

And ghost mode is a mod superpower. it allows them to contact the dead


I think a mod needs to set up the first page to include some of these FAQ answers, as although I dont mind, i've seen requests for live Tool footage and album release dates sooo many times now[/QUOTE]

:lol: I already have most of those videos from kazaa, but I wish I would've known about it before. Sweet.

malignant5150 wrote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolious<mopez>
but the dumb population of teenage youth dont listen to this and enjoy the music more that the lyrics

so your saying all teenagers are dumb?

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im not saying that all teenagers are dumb, but there is a POPULATION of them that are, ie: mtv wankers

now realising what i said i have sorta taken a stereotypical approach
although i havent re read it and not that sure what i said haha

The order of the 'holy gift' (i really dislike that title!) is:
Parabol, Parabola, Schism, Ticks and Leeches, Mantra, Lateralus, Faaip de Oiad, Grudge, Triad, Eon Blue Apocalypse, Reflection, Patient, Disposition

A playlist may not work, becuase the songs need to almost overlap for it to sound correct, and most comps have a second of silence in between...
[url]http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/question/insight7.html[/url] for more info

I don't think its as amazing as that guy makes it out to be, but its still a fun exercise...

tool didnt write the doom 3 theme, OMG i been listening to it constantly haha oh well

[QUOTE=an_underused_memory]The order of the 'holy gift' (i really dislike that title!)

I don't think its as amazing as that guy makes it out to be, but its still a fun exercise...[/QUOTE]

i agree i thought it was stupid, the way he expressed how every beat matched between song pfft and matra is spose to be choking therefore it must go after tick and leeches?? i dont even think it sounds like choking

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Ok, I've just read the last 3 pages. What is going on with all this fan talk? we are attacking other tool fans, and criticising them and everything. My god people, this is a TOOL thread. PLease lets try to focus on the band and their music, and forget about the fans. this is not aobut us. and we shouldn't attack each other either. we are all here united to talk about tool. so please no more posts on, i hate these kinds of tool fans, and tool fans shud do this, and i hate it when tool fans do this. thats not what this thread is about. so lets get back on subject. thank u.[/QUOTE]

i wasn't taking the piss, or didnt intend to **no pun intended** :D

but i was just saying how i dislike a fan of any music who dislike other people who arn't as wise and great they are... i mean music was made in the first place to either join people together * sing alongs *
or maybe it was made for catholic churchs, because writers back in the day of medievil or before that (unsure) were paid to write a song each week for sunday mass... either way its music and like most sports you get knowledge snobs who think they can tell people that there lame because they arnt as wise... why not share that knowledge or influence the uninfluenced so they can enjoy it, if they want to...

NOTE: hate is such a strong word, i prefer dislike :D

[QUOTE=Toolious<mopez>]i agree i thought it was stupid, the way he expressed how every beat matched between song pfft and matra is spose to be choking therefore it must go after tick and leeches?? i dont even think it sounds like choking[/QUOTE]

The track is Maynard holding his cat in a certain way until it made a starnge choking like noise. They recorded it, slowed it down and manipulated the sound.
Thats probably what he was referring to

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]The track is Maynard holding his cat in a certain way until it made a starnge choking like noise.
Thats probably what he was referring to[/QUOTE]
umm what the f.uck sorta **** is that to do, just for a track...
i mean it sounds cool and is pretty cool stoned, but still enless there was no harm to the cat, it's a pretty shi.tty thing to do..

and btw how do you know so much :D

about my comments on apc being sell outs for the reason of band member changes, i also realised today that there was a significant time difference between there albums, with lateralus and all....

so for what someone said about other projects it sounds very plausable..

[QUOTE=Toolious<mopez>]about my comments on apc being sell outs for the reason of band member changes[/QUOTE]

They didn't choose to make the change.

[QUOTE=Toolious<mopez>]i wasn't taking the piss, or didnt intend to **no pun intended** :D

but i was just saying how i dislike a fan of any music who dislike other people who arn't as wise and great they are... i mean music was made in the first place to either join people together * sing alongs *
or maybe it was made for catholic churchs, because writers back in the day of medievil or before that (unsure) were paid to write a song each week for sunday mass... either way its music and like most sports you get knowledge snobs who think they can tell people that there lame because they arnt as wise... why not share that knowledge or influence the uninfluenced so they can enjoy it, if they want to...

NOTE: hate is such a strong word, i prefer dislike :D[/QUOTE]

I got u. Yes hate is a strong word. Dislike is much better.

[QUOTE=Toolious<mopez>]umm what the f.uck sorta **** is that to do, just for a track...
i mean it sounds cool and is pretty cool stoned, but still enless there was no harm to the cat, it's a pretty shi.tty thing to do..

and btw how do you know so much :D[/QUOTE]

Hvae you read the Tool FAQ at Toolshed? Lots of this kind of info is there. All the stuff that Adam Jones Is God knows, and lots of other Tool fans know is in that FAQ. Also random facts gathered over time. If you haven't read the FAQ, i strongly recommend it.

[QUOTE=Toolious<mopez>]umm what the f.uck sorta **** is that to do, just for a track...
i mean it sounds cool and is pretty cool stoned, but still enless there was no harm to the cat, it's a pretty shi.tty thing to do..

and btw how do you know so much :D[/QUOTE]

I doubt he hurt it, if that really is what the sound is.

Tool are (mostly) normal people, just like you and me, and they're not going to be torturing animals just to get a desired sound effect.

BTW, has anyone seen that video that they play live for the song, 46 & 2? I'm assuming that it's supposed to represent growth/evolution, but what the hell is with the naked people in the tank at the end? :lol:

I can't remember the live footage for 46 +2 cause, alas, last time i saw it was 3 years ago...last time they were here..
and the time before that, bout 6months earlier, they had no fx/video except a few projections, i think it was a warm up....
There's a great new topic that no one's really talked about in here, do any of you have any theories/comments/thoughts about the tool videos?? live or released?
I have no idea about the people in the tank though..

side note: in an interview with New Zealand press a few years ago, maynard talked about the possibilties of tool making a feature-length work one day, either a movie with storyline, a an art work extended video type thing..
it'd be interesting....but knowing the band's notorious slow release schedule i won't hold my breath...quality of quantity, i always say!

Ok, im a first time threader and a long time Tool lover. I'm interested (psyched is a better word) in the upcoming 2005 Tool album release. As most of you know, it is going to be composed of what Tool has said to be "harder and more edgy material". Although I'm a big fan of ealier Tool work like Undertow and Opiate, will they still be able to give the same amount of thought provoking messages in their songs like Lateralus? I would love it if they still worked on songs like Reflection and Disposition. I'm asking you guys what you think the new album will be like and if you think it will be just as thought oriented as everything else.

[QUOTE=CanadianToolBassist]Ok, im a first time threader and a long time Tool lover. I'm interested (psyched is a better word) in the upcoming 2005 Tool album release. As most of you know, it is going to be composed of what Tool has said to be "harder and more edgy material". Although I'm a big fan of ealier Tool work like Undertow and Opiate, will they still be able to give the same amount of thought provoking messages in their songs like Lateralus? I would love it if they still worked on songs like Reflection and Disposition. I'm asking you guys what you think the new album will be like and if you think it will be just as thought oriented as everything else.[/QUOTE]

I think it will be sorta like a mix of Aenima and Lateralus, I've got my hopes up either way, I have my hopes up that Tool will blow us away with the next album.

Oh and while I'm here, ive been having trouble finding the salival cd(i know its a limited edition cd) but id like to find it and purchase it so help in that part would be great.


p.s. [url]http://www.clz.let.uu.nl/0227382/avatars/avatars.html[/url] - best tool avatars(only few ones work on mx though, sorry)

d'oh!
i mean quality NOT quantity

I have a question or should i say, survey. This is related to the question answer thing started by ToolOwnsYou quite a while ago. Now we all have our fav. tool song and such, but what would be your favorite tool song according to the message YOU think it is delivering? (mine would be Disgustipated, which shows that like does in fact feed on life and that is a basic as it can get)

[QUOTE]I have a question or should i say, survey. This is related to the question answer thing started by ToolOwnsYou quite a while ago. Now we all have our fav. tool song and such, but what would be your favorite tool song according to the message YOU think it is delivering? (mine would be Disgustipated, which shows that like does in fact feed on life and that is a basic as it can get)[/QUOTE]

wow i have bad keyboard skills

Yo my nigs tool is xool and my fav song from there is probably H. how bout urs gahaha

i love jimmy for the song but not as much for the message (at all)

[QUOTE=CanadianToolBassist]I have a question or should i say, survey. This is related to the question answer thing started by ToolOwnsYou quite a while ago. Now we all have our fav. tool song and such, but what would be your favorite tool song according to the message YOU think it is delivering? (mine would be Disgustipated, which shows that like does in fact feed on life and that is a basic as it can get)[/QUOTE]

either Aenima or eulogy