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itsPLaNK 08-11-2004 04:45 PM

I like it
 
Hey, it's good how you had the time to do that. That is really cool, and it has also enlightened me on "doom metal" I have never heard of it, well i probably have, but didnt realize it was doom metal.
Can anyone tell me any more bands that play doom metal, cos it seems like a good genre? :smoke:

lilpete86 08-12-2004 12:28 AM

Check this thread out [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207187[/url]

Jondur 08-12-2004 01:45 AM

[QUOTE=RivFader]don't forget Paradise Lost,Soulside Journey by Darkthrone and some songs of Pan.Thy.Monium[/QUOTE]

for what? Examples of death metal? Cos it certainly ain't doom.

cheesepuff 08-12-2004 04:26 PM

I agree that Slipknot and Mudvayne are Nü-Metal (even though Mudvayne unlike most other Nü-Metal bands is actually quite talented and good) But Linkin Park I consider a ****ty rock band and System of a Down has more of a punk influence than a metal one. And surprisingly Papa Roach's latest single doesn't suck too bad, then again, I didn't recognize it to be Papa Roach at first either :rolleyes:

guitarplayinfoo 08-12-2004 07:47 PM

well said

mattlikesmetal 08-12-2004 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=iamtweek]As much as I know, Doom metal is kinda just really heavy riffing. If you have Lamb of God's "As The Palaces Burn" album, listen to that last song, titled "Vigil", that Slayer sounding riff is, what I know as, Doom Metal...the tab is

E tuned to D) 0 0 8 3 7 2 6 1 5 1 0

Thats what [I]I[/I] have come to know as Doom metal, riffing like that.[/QUOTE]
doom metal is heavy riffs played at a [I]very[/I] slow speed

RivFader 08-13-2004 01:42 AM

Jondur, Soulside Journey IS doom/black metal and the old albums of Paradise Lost are doom metal.and i'm sure you don't know anything about Pan.Thy.Monium which are not so popular in the world but they do have some songs that are doom metal even though they play Progressive Death Metal

lilpete86 08-13-2004 02:56 AM

Don't argue with jondur about doom, you will lose

Per Ardua Ad Astra 08-13-2004 08:38 AM

[QUOTE=lilpete86]Don't argue with jondur about doom, you will lose[/QUOTE]

123 x3492745

RivFader 08-15-2004 04:57 AM

well, i'm pretty sure that jondur is wrong about Soulside Journey and old Paradise Lost.

Ve Das 08-15-2004 10:56 AM

Just popped in here and decided to say something:

Soulside Journey is oldschool death metal.
Pan.Thy.Monium,if you mean the side project of the Edge Of Sanity guy,is death metal from what I´ve heard(which,granted,is only a demo tape)

RachellRaven 08-15-2004 12:50 PM

Thanx Legions. That helped me a lot. I suppose im just an all round metal head. apart from power metal. I hate it! Rachell xx

RachellRaven 08-15-2004 12:56 PM

so what is Lacuna Coil Classed as? NuMetal? Or 'goth' metal?

lilpete86 08-15-2004 12:58 PM

Gothic metal

RivFader 08-16-2004 01:21 AM

nop u're wrong, pan.thy.monium is not a side project, they a few cd's and were progressive death metal.let's close the subject.thank u

Donnie Darko 08-16-2004 01:52 AM

All I can say to that is - "NOCTURNO CULTO..!"

Bartender 08-16-2004 06:02 AM

[QUOTE=RivFader]nop u're wrong, pan.thy.monium is not a side project, they a few cd's and were progressive death metal.let's close the subject.thank u[/QUOTE]

Dan Swano of Edge of Sanity is in Pan.Thy.Monium, and in any case, they don't play doom.

meedooli 08-16-2004 06:39 AM

ohh my god a warm coming now

Jondur 08-16-2004 07:00 AM

[QUOTE=RivFader]well, i'm pretty sure that jondur is wrong about Soulside Journey and old Paradise Lost.[/QUOTE]

No he's not. Soulside Journey = swedish style death metal ( a la Entombed, Grave etc), Old Paradise Lost = slow death metal. Even Gothic wasn't much removed from mid-paced UK death metal just with some female vocals and strings. Only on Shades of God even touched on doom.

Doom is NOT slowed down death metal. It is not female vocals and some keyboards. Death grunts have no real place in doom. Doom is about Sabbath turned up to 11, Count Raven and Witchfinder General with major attitude. Listen to the bands I mentioned in the first place and then you'll know what doom is.

downstroy 08-16-2004 10:57 AM

****, this topic is ****ing kickass, good work ;) I would add Sepulutra in the Thrash category (the one from Morbid Visions/Bestial Devastation up to Arise)

Black-Bass 08-16-2004 11:49 AM

what about Sevendust? what would you put them under?

nirvanasucks28 08-16-2004 02:10 PM

Who Cares?
 
I Dont **** Around With The Different Genres. If I Like The Song, Who Cares What Genre Its In.

Bartender 08-16-2004 06:42 PM

I do. There you go.

Donnie Darko 08-16-2004 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=nirvanasucks28]I Dont **** Around With The Different Genres. If I Like The Song, Who Cares What Genre Its In.[/QUOTE]

Why Are You Writing Like That, May I Ask?

Kingofdudes 08-16-2004 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=Donnie Darko]Why Are You Writing Like That, May I Ask?[/QUOTE]

He tried to make every word in caps and the forum changed it so only the first letters were capitalised(sp?)

Bartender 08-16-2004 07:23 PM

Maybe he idolizes DBJ. He hasn't got it right though; not random enough.

DKMode 08-17-2004 11:14 AM

thanks alot. i always wanted to know that. i was always offended when i heard black or death metal cuz i thought it was all about bashing god, but now i can listen to it musically and not be as offended. i know some bands like deicide and gorgoroth are extremely satanic but **** em i dont have to listen to them

Bartender 08-17-2004 11:20 AM

I honestly can't see why, if you like the music, you would avoid the band just for their views anyway. But that's just me, I know there are people who do that.

DKMode 08-17-2004 11:32 AM

i would never support a group of people that are against my beliefs and my god. thats why. im not saying i like black or death metal, but as a drummer, i really like the blastbeats, but i could never focus on that with the growls and satanic views right in my face. when i have been brought up to believe in everything that is good, and some band comes out with a song like **** your god or kill the christian, i get offended. only reason why im not inspired by those drummers.

Stoic 08-17-2004 11:44 AM

Not all black and death metal are like this. Look for it. However its a shame to lose all the good music because of this. Keep in mind that it's just an immature way to "shock"

lilpete86 08-17-2004 12:00 PM

I listen to bands that go against my beliefs, their beliefs don't really bother me its all about the music for me.

Thats why I listen to bands like dub buk and arghoslent because I enjoy the music not that I agree with what they talk about.

InChains 08-17-2004 12:12 PM

Well its nice that you've completely pidgeon holed any metal artist into a genre, by a paragraph definition of the bands, they gotta love that.

Who cares what genre, or who they "worship" and their "beliefs" , you cant say "well these people bands are this genre...they typically worship satan and sometimes kill minorities" how do you know all this? just from listening?

InChains 08-17-2004 12:17 PM

im telling you right now bands hate being put into a genre, its like a border that throughout their career they must stay in. all those genres are stupid anyway, they dont mean anything, if you like the music, that all that matters.

Bartender 08-17-2004 12:21 PM

Was there any point in splitting that across two posts? Genres are useful - this isn't a case of pigeonholing every band, it's a way to describe music to people that you think might be interested. And since when is it "a border that they must stay in"?

RockStar34C 08-17-2004 12:27 PM

how about Love Metal? that in here anywhere? apparently that's what HIM classify themselves as.
whatever metal is metal is metal is metal

Kingofdudes 08-17-2004 02:43 PM

[QUOTE=RockStar34C]how about Love Metal? that in here anywhere? apparently that's what HIM classify themselves as.
whatever metal is metal is metal is metal[/QUOTE]

love metal is something they made up, and its not much of a genre since they are the only ones in it.

Stoic 08-17-2004 03:02 PM

^
****ty whining "metal"

rh15951 08-17-2004 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=ludz]Great List, But:

I think there should be definitions for the "cores". Hardcore, Metalcore etc.

I think, and many people will agree with me, that Nu-Metal should be called something else. I like Crossover. And System of a Down shouldn't be on that list. Not by a long shot. People only call them Nu-Metal because they came out the same time as all those other bands. Except for the down-tuned guitars they don't fit into that group.[/QUOTE]


I agree, System Of A Down is most definitely not nu-metal. They need their own category of metal, since no other band can possibly equal them.

Stoic 08-17-2004 04:44 PM

^
why has this category to be metal? They are alternative with pseudo metal elements like all nu "metal" groups.

Kingofdudes 08-17-2004 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=rh15951]I agree, System Of A Down is most definitely not nu-metal. They need their own category of metal, since no other band can possibly equal them.[/QUOTE]

nu-metal, deal with it, I do.


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