[QUOTE=Obi One Kenodi]I'd pretty much say lengthy songs, a heavy use of synthisizers, grand concept albums and long instrumental pasages all constitute Prog. Still though, theres just something that has to be there for a band, album, or song to really be prog. I can't describe it really.[/QUOTE]


Yea I would have to agree with you.


It's funny everytime I come in here you al are talking about someone other then the floyd...are we comparing?

What's up with people and links lately? I figure I missed something

Apparently some dude was linking to cookie stealers, and then breaking into peoples accounts. Don't know too much about it though.

I'd say Obi One Kenodi's definition is mostly pretty good, but there are always exceptions. I don't think it's possible to pinpoint any truly defining characteristics.

[QUOTE=Obi One Kenodi]a heavy use of synthisizers[/QUOTE]

I'd say that in the 70s, synthesisers were a new, exciting instrument, little used by the mainstream, and that's why 70s prog bands used them so heavily. It wasn't the instrument itself, it was the way that they were new and exciting.

[QUOTE=moaner]I'd say that in the 70s, synthesisers were a new, exciting instrument, little used by the mainstream, and that's why 70s prog bands used them so heavily. It wasn't the instrument itself, it was the way that they were new and exciting.[/QUOTE]
I agree completely. Once again, I think that part of what makes prog progressive is that there are no defining characteristics.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I agree completely. Once again, I think that part of what makes prog progressive is that there are no defining characteristics.[/QUOTE]

Well, for a song to truly be [I]progressive[/I], I think it has to progress, or develop, through diffrent sections or movments that are all tied in with a common musical theme.

Age of Silence is a great example of modern prog music. Their album [I]Acceleraton[/I] defines originality.

I'm no expert, but wouldn't some characteristics be: no intro/verse chorus structure, long songs, different time signatures, maybe key changes, concept albums, etc.

[QUOTE=TheDMV]Well, for a song to truly be [I]progressive[/I], I think it has to progress, or develop, through diffrent sections or movments that are all tied in with a common musical theme.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. I think it's progressive in reference to being musically progressive, not structurally so. By placing criteria on what the song should do, you're confining in by certain rules that prevent it from potentially branching out in another way.

[QUOTE=randomthought9]I'm no expert, but wouldn't some characteristics be: no intro/verse chorus structure, long songs, different time signatures, maybe key changes, concept albums, etc.[/QUOTE]
Those are common characteristics. But those can exist in non-progressive songs and albums (I assume), and also aren't absolutely necessary. I really think that saying "progressive music [I]must[/I] have factor X" is limiting its ability to be truly progressive.

I only have [I]Complications: Trilogy of Intricacy[/I] by Age of Silence, but I really dig it.

[QUOTE=robo2448]Med's featured genre explains prog very well. Read it for a detailed description of it and some definitive prog bands to check out.

Edit- Here's the link for it- [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406837[/url]

Since everyone's so paranoid about links these days you can just get the link from the Rules and Links thread if you don't trust me.[/QUOTE]
Thanks man. That helped a lot.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I disagree. I think it's progressive in reference to being musically progressive, not structurally so. By placing criteria on what the song should do, you're confining in by certain rules that prevent it from potentially branching out in another way.


Those are common characteristics. But those can exist in non-progressive songs and albums (I assume), and also aren't absolutely necessary. I really think that saying "progressive music [I]must[/I] have factor X" is limiting its ability to be truly progressive.

I only have [I]Complications: Trilogy of Intricacy[/I] by Age of Silence, but I really dig it.[/QUOTE]

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Sooooooooooooooooooooo.......

Gilmour. North American tour. OMG Check it.
[url]http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_tours/david_gilmour_announced_rare_north_american_tour.html[/url]

I can't wait for Gilmours new album.. I may go see him live if I get the chance, he IS my favorite guitarist.. And he can put on one hell of a show.

Mhm 2 concerts of him sold out before I knew he was playing here :(

sucks

Really? I assume the North American shows aren't sold out because I think the tour was just announced recently. I'll probably go to Toronto to see him live.

Yeah, I'm deninitly hittin' up that Toronto show hopefully the one on Sunday.

The link won't work anymore..

So, did anyone see the English show TopGear when they test drove Nick's very own Ferrari Enzo? It was a great show.

i think pink floyd are one of the greatest rock bands ever, even though thats probably already been said-i didnt read the whole thread **** that!!
i really like the lyrics they are so well thought out. i dream of being half the lyricist he was....so damn good!! so theres my two bobs worth:thumb:

Damn, he's not coming to Belgium. I'll have to travel to Paris or Amsterdam to see him. And I'm very probably not gonna do that.

Danm. I don't think I'll be able to see him. Sad face.

Maybe I can go visit Chicago, and see him then...

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]So, did anyone see the English show TopGear when they test drove Nick's very own Ferrari Enzo? It was a great show.[/QUOTE]
haha, Yeah.

[QUOTE=guitarded_chuck]Sooooooooooooooooooooo.......

Gilmour. North American tour. OMG Check it.
[url]http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_tours/david_gilmour_announced_rare_north_american_tour.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Fu[i]c[/i]k, none of those are in Philly. Well, perhaps I can convince my dad to drive up to New York...

[QUOTE=Obi One Kenodi]Fu[i]c[/i]k, none of those are in Philly. Well, perhaps I can convince my dad to drive up to New York...[/QUOTE]


LoL...I wonder if I can convince my dad to drive me too?...all the way from Texas....

He's coming to NY:D

Presale tickets aren't avaliable anymore on ticketmaster, but once all the tickets go on sale I hope I can buy some.

I hope he does a tour of England. I'd love to see him.

Aside from the album, one of the main reasons he's going on tour is to dispel rumours of a floyd reunion.

Today I was contemplating how many orgasms I would have if Floyd re-united with Syd.

[QUOTE=Led-Zeppelin]Aside from the album, one of the main reasons he's going on tour is to dispel rumours of a floyd reunion.

Today I was contemplating how many orgasms I would have if Floyd re-united with Syd.[/QUOTE]


Are you kidding? *has a orgasm* OMG Syd's back in the Floyd Syds back in the floyd

^ Okay that's the dumbest thing I've ever said.

So I was playing on a fender twin reverb today...and It sounded incredibly like
Davids playing...

He used a Twin for almost everything in the studio.

[QUOTE=Britton]Are you kidding? *has a orgasm* OMG Syd's back in the Floyd Syds back in the floyd

^ Okay that's the dumbest thing I've ever said.

So I was playing on a fender twin reverb today...and It sounded incredibly like
Davids playing...[/QUOTE]
I wanna get one of them.

Dave's UK dates sold out VERY quickly.

Can't believe he'd sell his soul and tour north america while only doing a few UK dates.

heavy.