[QUOTE=Bartender]


The Japanese band?[/QUOTE]

Yah. Apparently they're avant-garde but that song is really stoner-ish.


[QUOTE=Jondur]
They're an epic doom band. That's what epic doom is - see Solitude Aeturnus, Solstice etc. I think TRUE doom covers it.[/QUOTE]

I don't find anything epic about their self-titled album, but yes Nightfall (from what I've heard) and Epicus are very epic. And, well, then I guess I'm not a big fan of this "TRUE doom".

[QUOTE=Jondur]Don't start. There's a big big difference between NWOBHM and Poison or Ratt.[/QUOTE]

Yeah yeah ok ok, I was exaggerating a bit. Sorry.

By the way... people are calling Assassin of the Light their best song. Yes, it starts off nicely... but the bit after the chorus where it keeps starting the riff, only to cut it off and say "assassin of the light" is, I'm not kidding, the only part of a song I've heard that actually [i]frustrates[/i] me. Most days I can't listen to that bit.

[QUOTE=Werny]
I don't find anything epic about their self-titled album, [/QUOTE]

Not even Copernicus? It's about as epic as it gets.

[QUOTE]And, well, then I guess I'm not a big fan of this "TRUE doom".[/QUOTE]

TRUE DOOM= Revelation, St Vitus, Solstice, Solitude Aeturnus etc
NOT true doom = Electric Wizard, Orange Goblin, My Dying Bride etc


[QUOTE]By the way... people are calling Assassin of the Light their best song. [/QUOTE]

Not me. I think it's average. Copernicus, Seven Silver Keys on the other hand are very very good.

NB Nothing can be compared to EDM and Nightfall - it's just not fair, they're classics and beyond anything in this day and age.

[QUOTE=Jondur]NOT true doom = Electric Wizard, Orange Goblin, My Dying Bride etc[/QUOTE]

Do you at least consider them seperate sub genre of doom?

Well Orange Goblin aren't even really untrue doom, like them though I do. They're just a (stoner) rock band.

Electric Wizard are pretty much a stoner band at heart, too; they're just at one extreme end of the spectrum.

[QUOTE=Stoic]Do you at least consider them seperate sub genre of doom?[/QUOTE]

MDB = death/doom

but you have to consider that death/doom really doesn't have anything to do with doom. These bands, well the originators of the style (Paradise Lost, Anathema, MDB) were death metal bands who added the atmospherics of Into the Pandemonium Celtic Frost. Therefore no input from the originators of doom (ie Pentagram, St Vitus etc).

Orange Goblin and Electric Wizard = stoner (as Bartender pointed out).

Genre pedantry aside, I'm glad to see some people picked up on the suggestions I made - It's a shame we can't upload songs here anymore because there's loads more to hear!

Here's a great live vid of Revelation at Doom Shall Rise in 2003.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqfJlxL9ZKk[/url]

Great, great, great band.

I have Frequencies From Planet Ten by Orange Goblin and really enjoy it. Is their other stuff similar?

[QUOTE=Jondur]OK - for starters there is no such thing as stoner doom. There is stoner and there is doom. They are very different.[/QUOTE]
According to this site- [url]http://www.doom-metal.com/faq.html-[/url] there's stoner rock and stoner/doom. but i dont know, u might be right, i'm not an expert, thats how i found that site.

Have any of you heard Deadboy and the Elephantmen? It's (former Acid Bath singer) Dax's band, and I highly enjoy them. Very gloomy stoner-ish (as in only kinda!) stuff. I managed to get their album If This Is Hell Then I'm Lucky, it's a great listen from start to finish. Jon, I know you like Dax's vocals, perhaps you'd like this band too. I can YSI if anyone is interested. I also got his other band's s/t album Agents of Oblivion. It's similar, but a bit more rockish and not nearly as good as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE=acerb]According to this site- [url]http://www.doom-metal.com/faq.html-[/url] there's stoner rock and stoner/doom. but i dont know, u might be right, i'm not an expert, thats how i found that site.[/QUOTE]

I am right. That site is for Gays. Check out such topics as "Is Autopsy Doom?" and "Are Opeth Doom?"

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]Have any of you heard Deadboy and the Elephantmen? It's (former Acid Bath singer) Dax's band, and I highly enjoy them. Very gloomy stoner-ish (as in only kinda!) stuff. I managed to get their album If This Is Hell Then I'm Lucky, it's a great listen from start to finish. Jon, I know you like Dax's vocals, perhaps you'd like this band too. I can YSI if anyone is interested. I also got his other band's s/t album Agents of Oblivion. It's similar, but a bit more rockish and not nearly as good as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE]

I'm definitely interested. I have the Agents of Oblivion album and I think its pretty good (although nowhere near the genius of Acid Bath). On a related note I was watching the Acid Bath DVD this morning (it's a good way to wake up!) - well worth getting, great footage of rehearsals in a barn and some decent gigs.

I'll start uploading it, go ahead and post yer email, and that goes for anyone else who wants it.

Cool man I'd be intrested :) thanks

jonny40k2k @ hotmail.com

Count me in:

[email]jonathon_gibbs@<nospam>hotmail.com[/email]

Sent. If any more of you want it, tell me and I'll send it again tomorrow night, then after that I'll just give it to the daily upload guys I guess.

I've ordered Swallow The Sun - Ghost Of Loss (cd+dvd)

Any fans of them here?
I haven't heard much about them except for a few trackson internet radio

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]Sent. If any more of you want it, tell me and I'll send it again tomorrow night, then after that I'll just give it to the daily upload guys I guess.[/QUOTE]


[email]thedeath7734@hotmail.com[/email]


Thanks man .. :thumb:

I would also like to hear this. I like Acid Bath, and their vocals.

[email]eruantien@gmail.com[/email]

Ok sounds good
[email]iamacoolguy@gmail.com[/email]

I'll try it.

[email]tyler.stagg@gmail.com[/email]

Thanks.

Yeah, I've been wanting to hear that for some time. Thanks a lot.

[email]jmcgrenery@hotmail.com[/email]

[QUOTE=Jondur]I am right. That site is for Gays. Check out such topics as "Is Autopsy Doom?" and "Are Opeth Doom?"[/QUOTE]
o ok

Ha sorry forgot to send it last night, will do so now. Also Jon, the one I sent to you got spit back at me. I just copied and pasted what you typed, so is that <no spam> dealy supposed to be in there?

EDIT: sent it out just now to the rest of you

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]Ha sorry forgot to send it last night, will do so now. Also Jon, the one I sent to you got spit back at me. I just copied and pasted what you typed, so is that <no spam> dealy supposed to be in there?

EDIT: sent it out just now to the rest of you[/QUOTE]
Thanks. :)

Downloading now, will listen tomorow and post some feedback.

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]Ha sorry forgot to send it last night, will do so now. Also Jon, the one I sent to you got spit back at me. I just copied and pasted what you typed, so is that <no spam> dealy supposed to be in there?

EDIT: sent it out just now to the rest of you[/QUOTE]

no it's not. It's to stop spam - just delete that bit so it's just @hotmail.com

Anyway on doomy topic:

Currently worshipping: PENANCE! Godly band.

[QUOTE=the2stranger]I've ordered Swallow The Sun - Ghost Of Loss (cd+dvd)

Any fans of them here?
I haven't heard much about them except for a few trackson internet radio[/QUOTE]
:confused:
anyone?

i like doom metal
stoner metal sucks

So, what'd you guys think of the Deadboy album?

Going to see Orange Goblin, Rameses, Sourvein, Olde Crone and Jecano in Camden in April, Cant Wait.

For anyone who hasn't heard Jecano check them out here:
[url]http://www.jecanorock.com/[/url]
it's awesome stuff.

I've recently re discovered how much I love Let loose The Swans of My Dying Bride.
such an awesome album.

riding on my bike back home in the middle of the night with an icy wind and this cd on, what an experience.