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Bartender 07-13-2004 12:28 PM

Mayhem - Freezing Moon, Funeral Fog, Pure Fu[color=white]c[/color]king Armageddon
Emperor - Inno A Satana, I Am the Black Wizards
Darkthrone - Kathaarian Life Code, Paragon Belial
Immortal - Solarfall, Tragedies Blow At Horizon
Burzum - War, Det Som En Gang Var

I think that should do as a tiny introduction to elementary black metal. Check out the death heads thread if you want more.

cure_for_cancer17 07-13-2004 12:57 PM

[QUOTE]How could symphonic metal be described? And could anyone name some bands, please![/QUOTE]

Symphonic Black Metal =

Though it's an imperfect designation, symphonic black metal is the most common term for a European-centered style that emerged in the mid- to late '90s. It isn't literally symphonic, of course; that simply refers to the thick-sounding instrumentation and sweeping, dramatic soundscapes. Nor is its connection to black metal always readily audible; although nearly all of its bands started out playing standard-issue black metal, symphonic black metal often bears little surface resemblance to its immediate forebear. The starting point for symphonic black metal was the early-'90s sound of Norwegian black metal, specifically the wing of bands that employed sorrowful, melodic keyboard lines as a counterpoint to their furious assaults. Black metal groups looking to push past the inherent limitations of the form began de-emphasizing the guitar and adding elements of progressive rock (primarily psychedelic space-rock bands like Pink Floyd) and goth metal, with its emphasis on chilling, eerie texture. The resulting sound is usually lush, and much more inviting and accessible than straightforward black metal. After outfits like Tiamat and Samael pioneered the form, a new wave of bands led by the Gathering also began incorporating ethereal female singers, sometimes as the sole vocal focus. The symphonic black metal movement remains somewhat limited, partly because of its epic ambitions and partly because it isn't traditionally metallic, but its fascinating synthesis of influences made it an instantly identifiable alternative in underground metal at the turn of the millennium.


Key Bands:

The Gathering

Moonspell

Samael

Therion

Lake of Tears

Tiamat

Lacuna Coil

Opeth

Katatonia


Key Albums:


Mandylion - The Gathering

Wolfheart - Moonspell

Irreligious - Moonspell

Passage - Samael

Theli - Therion

Crimson Cosmos - Lake of Tears

Deeper Kind of Slumber - Tiamat

Identity Four - Various Artists

Lacuna Coil - Lacuna Coil

My Arms, Your Hearse - Opeth

How to Measure a Planet? - The Gathering

In a Reverie - Lacuna Coil

Eternal - Samael

Deggial - Therion

If_Then_Else - The Gathering

Still Life - Opeth

Last Fair Deal Gone Down - Katatonia

Peaceville Classic Cuts - Various Artists


Key Tracks:

Eleanor - The Gathering

Alma Mater - Moonspell

Opium - Moonspell

Rain - Samael

To Mega Therion - Therion

Four Strings of Mourning - Lake of Tears

Cold Seed - Tiamat

In Darkness - Various Artists

No Need to Explain - Lacuna Coil

Amen Corner - Opeth

Liberty Bell - The Gathering

My Wings Lacuna - Coil

Supra Karma - Samael

Seven Secrets of the Sphinx - Therion

Rollercoaster - The Gathering

Face of - Melinda Opeth

Teargas - Katatonia

No Devotion - Various Artists

:thumb:

Kreator 07-13-2004 01:00 PM

i wouldn't call any of those bands symphonic metal :confused: most of them are gothic and death..

Per Ardua Ad Astra 07-13-2004 01:01 PM

[QUOTE]Symphonic Black Metal =

Though it's an imperfect designation, symphonic black metal is the most common term for a European-centered style that emerged in the mid- to late '90s. It isn't literally symphonic, of course; that simply refers to the thick-sounding instrumentation and sweeping, dramatic soundscapes. Nor is its connection to black metal always readily audible; although nearly all of its bands started out playing standard-issue black metal, symphonic black metal often bears little surface resemblance to its immediate forebear. The starting point for symphonic black metal was the early-'90s sound of Norwegian black metal, specifically the wing of bands that employed sorrowful, melodic keyboard lines as a counterpoint to their furious assaults. Black metal groups looking to push past the inherent limitations of the form began de-emphasizing the guitar and adding elements of progressive rock (primarily psychedelic space-rock bands like Pink Floyd) and goth metal, with its emphasis on chilling, eerie texture. The resulting sound is usually lush, and much more inviting and accessible than straightforward black metal. After outfits like Tiamat and Samael pioneered the form, a new wave of bands led by the Gathering also began incorporating ethereal female singers, sometimes as the sole vocal focus. The symphonic black metal movement remains somewhat limited, partly because of its epic ambitions and partly because it isn't traditionally metallic, but its fascinating synthesis of influences made it an instantly identifiable alternative in underground metal at the turn of the millennium.


Key Bands:

The Gathering
Moonspell
Samael
Therion
Lake of Tears
Tiamat
Lacuna Coil
Opeth
Katatonia


Key Albums:


Mandylion The Gathering
Wolfheart Moonspell
Irreligious Moonspell
Passage Samael
Theli Therion
Crimson Cosmos Lake of Tears
Deeper Kind of Slumber Tiamat
Identity Four Various Artists
Lacuna Coil Lacuna Coil
My Arms, Your Hearse Opeth
How to Measure a Planet? The Gathering
In a Reverie Lacuna Coil
Eternal Samael
Deggial Therion
If_Then_Else The Gathering
Still Life Opeth
Last Fair Deal Gone Down Katatonia
Peaceville Classic Cuts Various Artists


Key Tracks:

Eleanor The Gathering
Alma Mater Moonspell
Opium Moonspell
Rain Samael
To Mega Therion Therion
Four Strings of Mourning Lake of Tears
Cold Seed Tiamat
In Darkness Various Artists
No Need to Explain Lacuna Coil
Amen Corner Opeth
Liberty Bell The Gathering
My Wings Lacuna Coil
Supra Karma Samael
Seven Secrets of the Sphinx Therion
Rollercoaster The Gathering
Face of Melinda Opeth
Teargas Katatonia
No Devotion Various Artists[/QUOTE]

Just some additional notes.

I would say that one of the leaders in Symphonic Black Metal were Arcturus. See the album "Aspera Heims Synfonia." It's the greatest example of Syphonic black metal i've seen yet.
Opeth is not Symphonic Black metal, they are death metal.
Katatonia is more doom metal than symphonic black metal.
Lacuna Coil isn't symphonic black metal either.

605heeleyjp 07-13-2004 04:26 PM

this iz probabally the best thread and the most helpful thread around thnx 4 that

Aqua Minerale 07-14-2004 06:02 AM

thanks cure for cancer17, nice post. what about Nightwish and Helloween?

cure_for_cancer17 07-14-2004 09:07 AM

yeah i guess there were a couple missing off the list... but you get the point

Kreator 07-14-2004 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=Aqua Minerale]thanks cure for cancer17, nice post. what about Nightwish and Helloween?[/QUOTE]
nightwish are gothic and helloween are power metal

mike88564 07-14-2004 07:28 PM

Ok there are three main types of metal: Crappy, very hard rock, and thrash. Crappy ones (most of them) range from nu-metal bands (SOAD are the only exception) such as Korn and Papa Roach, to Damage plan and Deicide. Very hard rock is mostly ruling, with sabbath (awesome), and early Zepellin; although other very hard rock bands such as Judas Priest and Queensryche suck. Thrash bands range from Slayer (awesome), to Metallica (not awesome).

I'm gonna get such stick for this I can see it coming.

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Griffin_Page 07-15-2004 01:14 AM

[QUOTE=mike88564]Ok there are three main types of metal: Crappy, very hard rock, and thrash. Crappy ones (most of them) range from nu-metal bands (SOAD are the only exception) such as Korn and Papa Roach, to Damage plan and Deicide. Very hard rock is mostly ruling, with sabbath (awesome), and early Zepellin; although other very hard rock bands such as Judas Priest and Queensryche suck. Thrash bands range from Slayer (awesome), to Metallica (not awesome).

I'm gonna get such stick for this I can see it coming.[/QUOTE]

Ehm, genres of metal classify by sound, not by personal opinion. The main types of metal consist of these:
Classic/Traditional
Thrash
Power
Black
Death
Pop

Then there are the variations. I do not consider glam, nu-metal and metalcore as main types of metal, they all fall under "pop metal".

Griffin_Page 07-15-2004 01:16 AM

[QUOTE=GibsonShredder04]hey everyone this might be a bit annoying but it would be great help if you would go to my bands site [URL=http://mudeyvaynes.tripod.com/ ]Shadow System[/URL]



thanks a ****load[/QUOTE]

1. No advertising
2. Not too many musicians like nu-metal.

cure_for_cancer17 07-15-2004 02:45 AM

[QUOTE]Ehm, genres of metal classify by sound, not by personal opinion. The main types of metal consist of these:
Classic/Traditional
Thrash[/QUOTE]

again, just some additions to the many genres of metal (because whether people like it or not these all do exist and a few are even important).....

Alternative Metal
Death Metal
Black Metal
Doom Metal
Goth Metal
Hair Metal
Heavy Metal
Industrial Metal
Neo-Classical Metal
New Wave of British Heavy Metal
Pop Metal
Power Metal
Progressive Metal
Punk Metal
Rap Metal
Scandinavian Metal
Sludge Metal
Speed Metal
Stoner Metal
Symphonic Black Metal
Thrash Metal


i'd be happy to post an explanation for any one of these if anyone wants (except of course symphonic as it's already been done in this thread)

cure_for_cancer17 07-15-2004 02:45 AM

[QUOTE]Ehm, genres of metal classify by sound, not by personal opinion. The main types of metal consist of these:
Classic/Traditional
Thrash[/QUOTE]

again, just some additions to the many genres of metal (because whether people like it or not these all do exist and a few are even important).....

Alternative Metal
Death Metal
Black Metal
Doom Metal
Goth Metal
Hair Metal
Heavy Metal
Industrial Metal
Neo-Classical Metal
New Wave of British Heavy Metal
Pop Metal
Power Metal
Progressive Metal
Punk Metal
Rap Metal
Scandinavian Metal
Sludge Metal
Speed Metal
Stoner Metal
Symphonic Black Metal
Thrash Metal


i'd be happy to post an explanation for any one of these if anyone wants (except of course symphonic as it's already been done in this thread)

mike88564 07-15-2004 06:45 AM

uhh...metal sucks

mike88564 07-15-2004 06:46 AM

[QUOTE=Aqua Minerale]thanks cure for cancer17, nice post. what about Nightwish and Helloween?[/QUOTE]

Nightwish suck ***

Aqua Minerale 07-15-2004 06:51 AM

if you don't like them, don't listen to them!

Kreator 07-15-2004 10:34 AM

what's pop metal?

cure_for_cancer17 07-15-2004 11:05 AM

[QUOTE]what's pop metal?[/QUOTE]

Pop Metal =

The least metallic variation of heavy metal, pop-metal became the most popular form of hard rock during the '80s. Some pop-metal bands emphasized metal's most important building block -- the guitar riff -- more than others, but pop-metal's main attraction were the huge, catchy hooks that owed a great deal to the fist-pumping choruses of arena rock. Most of the Los Angeles-based bands (where the scene was heavily concentrated) also drew on the elaborate visual stylings of British glam rock, which resulted in the much-maligned "hair metal" boom of the late '80s. While pop-metal sounded loud and aggressive on the surface, it nearly always had a slick studio sheen that kept it radio-friendly. '70s artists like Aerosmith and Alice Cooper had an undeniable influence on pop-metal, but the band that sparked the true genesis of the style was Kiss.

Kiss' music was catchy and utterly simple, and their wildly theatrical visuals were an essential part of their appeal. Next came Van Halen, whose wild party-rock and virtuoso lead guitarist set the style for much of the pop-metal that followed. The first wave of pop-metal -- bands like Motley Crue (who would later become superstars), Quiet Riot, Dokken, Ratt, and Twisted Sister -- wasn't quite as poppy as it would later become, save for Def Leppard's 1983 landmark Pyromania, perhaps the most melodic metal album up to that point.

Bon Jovi's 1986 smash Slippery When Wet ushered in the age of hair metal, where photogenic looks (and, yes, teased-up hair) became just as important in selling a band as the music itself. The following year, Def Leppard's Hysteria set new standards for smoothed-out production as well as blockbuster sales. Not all subsequent pop-metal fell into the slick, image-conscious hair-metal camp; Guns N' Roses, Tesla, and Skid Row often had a grittier edge, and Extreme was unpredictably eclectic, while veteran rockers Kiss, Aerosmith, and Alice Cooper all staged pop-friendly comebacks. But by and large, the hair bands reigned supreme, playing lots of sleazy Aerosmith boogie and big AOR-style power ballads with bits of Van Halen flash; Poison embodied the glammed-up, party-hearty excess of hair metal perhaps better than any. Pop-metal and hair metal (and the excess and formula that had come to be associated with both) were effectively wiped off the musical map by grunge in 1991; some pop-metal bands continued to record for smaller labels and cult audiences, but the music's reputation had suffered too much to restore its former glamour.

Key Artists:

Aerosmith - 70s to 00s
Bon Jovi - 80s to 00s
**** Yankees - 80s to 90s
Def Leppard - 80s to 00s
Dokken - 80s to 00s
Faster Pussycat - 80s to 90s
Kiss - 70s to 00s
Kix - 80s to 90s
Mötley Crüe - 80s to 00s
Ratt - 80s to 90s
Slaughter - 80s to 90s
Warrant - 80s to 00s
White Lion - 80s to 90s
Winger - 80s to 90s
Lita Ford - 80s to 90s
Poison - 80s to 00s
Cinderella - 80s to 90s

(same kinda vibe for the key albums)

take it or leave it. i don't like the stuff myself but happy to provide explanations...

Kreator 07-15-2004 11:09 AM

*leaves*

cure_for_cancer17 07-15-2004 11:11 AM

he asked for it :lol:

Kreator 07-15-2004 11:14 AM

isn't your pop metal just hard rock?

cure_for_cancer17 07-15-2004 11:21 AM

depends on how seriously you take the bands

Kreator 07-15-2004 11:28 AM

i take all of them serious

cure_for_cancer17 07-15-2004 11:38 AM

well in that case just replace the title with 'hard rock'

Kreator 07-15-2004 11:41 AM

yeah :thumb:

NickyHIMfan 07-15-2004 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=cure_for_cancer17]
Goth Metal

i'd be happy to post an explanation for any one of these if anyone wants (except of course symphonic as it's already been done in this thread)[/QUOTE]
Can I get an explanation of this? And a few band examples? :)

Edit: Please? (Where are my manners?.... :upset: )

cure_for_cancer17 07-15-2004 11:55 AM

sure man,

Goth Metal =

Goth metal fuses the bleak, icy atmospherics of goth rock with the loud guitars and aggression of heavy metal, finding the middle ground between the two styles in a melodramatic sense of theater and lyrical obsessions with religion and horror. Prior to the emergence of goth rock as a post-punk genre, the vaguely medieval, minor-key sounds of metal bands like Rainbow, Dio, and Judas Priest had been described as "gothic," but true goth metal is always directly influenced by goth rock -- ethereal synths and spooky textures are just as important as guitar riffs, if not moreso. Thus, goth metal frequently holds appeal for listeners on both sides of the equation. Goth metal first emerged during the early to mid-'80s, centered around Los Angeles' so-called "death-rock" scene headed by Christian Death. Many goth metal bands have since sprung up in both America and Europe, with the tongue-in-cheek Type O Negative breaking out to a wider alternative metal audience in the '90s. During the latter half of that decade, goth metal also proved to be an important influence on black metal bands searching for new ways to darken their sound.


Key Artists:

Christian Death - 80s to 90s
Paradise Lost - 80s to 00s
Type O Negative - 90s to 00s
My Dying Bride - 90s to 00s
Moonspell - 90s to 00s
Anathema - 90s to 00s
Lake of Tears - 90s to 00s
Theatre of Tragedy - 90s to 00s
Lacrimosa - 90s to 00s



Key Albums:

Atrocities - Christian Death
Jesus Points the Bone at You? - Christian Death
Shades of God - Paradise Lost
Gothic - Paradise Lost
Bloody Kisses - Type O Negative
Icon - Paradise Lost
Turn Loose the Swans - My Dying Bride
Draconian Times - Paradise Lost
Wolfheart - Moonspell
Eternity - Anathema
Like Gods of the Sun - My Dying Bride
Crimson Cosmos - Lake of Tears
Velvet Darkness They Fear - Theatre of Tragedy
World Coming Down - Type O Negative
Elodia - Lacrimosa

there you go NickyHIMfan

NickyHIMfan 07-15-2004 11:57 AM

[QUOTE=cure_for_cancer17]sure man,

Goth Metal =.........

there you go NickyHIMfan[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much :thumb:

Kreator 07-15-2004 11:58 AM

more artists:

nightwish
within temptation
lacuna coil
xandria

all will female singers


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