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Urinetrouble 04-29-2012 11:05 PM

redhouse still thinks Doseone is good. ha

exredhouseresident 04-30-2012 02:21 AM

Urinetrouble still thinks doseone isnt good. ha

trippedhimself 04-30-2012 09:14 AM

fvck lil b. listen to k-rino and hear the truth

WooHa 04-30-2012 09:24 AM

[QUOTE=illmitch;18858955]lil b is way more interesting as an entertainer than ODB ever was[/QUOTE]

don't you have a class to attend?

MalleusMaleficarum 04-30-2012 10:25 AM

[QUOTE=illmitch;18858955]lil b is way more interesting[/QUOTE]

stating something that can never be proven 24/7

kitsch 04-30-2012 01:27 PM

knew that this was an alex thread before i even opened it

matious 04-30-2012 01:46 PM

[QUOTE=exredhouseresident;18858951]Hes a novelty, hardly thought provoking. In the world of entertainment, novelties are not thought provoking, they're just something new to fawn over. Suspending more principles of mine, [B]lending credence to the comparison between Lil B and ODB, that itself means ODB was doing it way before Lil B and that Lil B is that much LESS creative or novel[/B], and that any appreciation he receives at all is superfluous and undue.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't make sense. I was making a comparison, didn't mention any similarity between delivery or content yet. Why does making a comparison automatically make ODB superior? I mean I probably shouldn't listen to any song with vocals considering Beethoven did it first, and everything post is superflous or whatever pompous terminology you were using.

The way lil b delivered his content through self-promotion and youtube vlogs was original as well. You can see it imitated by MTV Riff Raff and other clowns . When he titled his release "im gay" it was thought provoking in that it lead to panel discussions and re-emphasized the homophobic culture still present in hip hop. A lot of his music parodies many modern rap tropes, which is a breath of fresh air.

This is fairly thought-provoking stuff given the context of the genre. I can't think of any other current quasi-mainstream, homosexuality-endorsing hip hop artist right now. The fact that we are having this discussion makes him thought provoking.

illmitch 04-30-2012 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=WooHa;18859153]don't you have a class to attend?[/QUOTE]

at 11:30 on a sunday night?

[IMG]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lztm44UO5d1r4u912o1_500.jpg[/IMG]

Idnuf 04-30-2012 02:16 PM

All this becomes hilarious when you remember the music exred endorses:

"Wednesday's dirty blood clot.
Hoards of leaves wear 3-d glasses
to whisper the wind's plea to accept an emptied room.
Backtalk, the bethlehem of patios points backwards
footprints at the stagehand puppets friendly lament."

illmitch 04-30-2012 02:39 PM

what do you mean man, that's the kind of music that we all need to listen to so that we can liberate the working class from being oppressed by gucci mane and lil wayne

Idnuf 04-30-2012 02:43 PM

doseone 4 prez

exredhouseresident 04-30-2012 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=matious;18859311]That doesn't make sense. I was making a comparison, didn't mention any similarity between delivery or content yet. Why does making a comparison automatically make ODB superior? I mean I probably shouldn't listen to any song with vocals considering Beethoven did it first, and everything post is superflous or whatever pompous terminology you were using.

The way lil b delivered his content through self-promotion and youtube vlogs was original as well. You can see it imitated by MTV Riff Raff and other clowns . When he titled his release "im gay" it was thought provoking in that it lead to panel discussions and re-emphasized the homophobic culture still present in hip hop. A lot of his music parodies many modern rap tropes, which is a breath of fresh air.

This is fairly thought-provoking stuff given the context of the genre. I can't think of any other current quasi-mainstream, homosexuality-endorsing hip hop artist right now. The fact that we are having this discussion makes him thought provoking.[/QUOTE]

Original because he self promoted himself through youtube? Really? Is that a serious contention of yours?

You're not providing a counter-analysis to my points. All the thoughts he has provoked have been provoked before, have not really been critically analyzed by Lil B, and have been the equivalent of a common individual getting a hold of beats and recording equipment. That is my primary point: he's nothing special at all, and in fact most rappers that get popular like him aren't really anything special in any way.

exredhouseresident 04-30-2012 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=Idnuf;18859333]All this becomes hilarious when you remember the music exred endorses:

"Wednesday's dirty blood clot.
Hoards of leaves wear 3-d glasses
to whisper the wind's plea to accept an emptied room.
Backtalk, the bethlehem of patios points backwards
footprints at the stagehand puppets friendly lament."[/QUOTE]

yeah, i urinate in a cup for the art of it,
and you'll dissect all of it.

WooHa 04-30-2012 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=illmitch;18859323]at 11:30 on a sunday night?

[IMG]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lztm44UO5d1r4u912o1_500.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

yea special ed classes

illmitch 04-30-2012 04:01 PM

astute as always

matious 04-30-2012 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=exredhouseresident;18859383]Original because he self promoted himself through youtube? Really? Is that a serious contention of yours?[/quote]

Yup. Name me another rapper that preceded Lil B who's music is as synonymous with home-made video recordings.
[quote]
You're not providing a counter-analysis to my points. All the thoughts he has provoked have been provoked before, have not really been critically analyzed by Lil B, and have been the equivalent of a common individual getting a hold of beats and recording equipment. That is my primary point: he's nothing special at all, and in fact most rappers that get popular like him aren't really anything special in any way.[/QUOTE]

Sure other people may have provoked similar thoughts (I'd be curious if you could name some) but they have never done it through "pop rap". What I'm saying is nobody has been able to bring as much self awareness and humor at the expense of other hip hop contemporaries like Lil B, and he did it all by utilizing, and parodying a cliche hip hop sound.

publicastration 04-30-2012 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=exredhouseresident;18858910]

I take it you lightened up like the rest of them.

[I]Sell out!!!![/I][/QUOTE]

[img]http://cache.gyazo.com/96f140b7a5e6f8539d23ae82c3cecc95.png[/img]

[QUOTE=matious;18859311]

This is fairly thought-provoking stuff given the context of the genre. I can't think of any other current quasi-mainstream, homosexuality-endorsing hip hop artist right now. The fact that we are having this discussion makes him thought provoking.[/QUOTE]

exactly

Juddybear 04-30-2012 05:33 PM

lol, enjoyed reading this thread

publicastration 04-30-2012 05:34 PM

what were you doing in hip hop in the first place lul

Juddybear 04-30-2012 05:36 PM

watching a bunch of white guys argue about the intricacies of rap is p funny

illmitch 04-30-2012 05:46 PM

tru

matious 04-30-2012 06:04 PM

you gotta be black to like black music duh

I mean you dont see any white people discussing the intricacies of jazz or rock n roll, thats for sure.

MalleusMaleficarum 04-30-2012 06:05 PM

oh so this is where the intelligent people post

illmitch 04-30-2012 07:52 PM

theres a thin line between discussing rap music and being exredhouse

exredhouseresident 04-30-2012 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=matious;18859428]Yup. Name me another rapper that preceded Lil B who's music is as synonymous with home-made video recordings.


Sure other people may have provoked similar thoughts (I'd be curious if you could name some) but they have never done it through "pop rap". What I'm saying is nobody has been able to bring as much self awareness and humor at the expense of other hip hop contemporaries like Lil B, and he did it all by utilizing, and parodying a cliche hip hop sound.[/QUOTE]

Why? He's utilizing tools of his time. He isn't some genius for that. If he did it from a message board or something, there might be a point to what you're saying. YOutube is a popular site. Someone was bound to do what he did and with no greater effort.

Ive already named some and if I went on to name more, a side debate riddled with trivial comparisons would develop and it would be ridiculously off topic. I'd much prefer staying on topic.

[QUOTE=illmitch;18859521]theres a thin line between discussing rap music and being exredhouse[/QUOTE]

If you didnt have such a strong proclivity for stupidity, detectable by your taste in rap, I would imagine you'd hate yourself, given how stupid you are.

illmitch 04-30-2012 10:49 PM

nah im pretty smart thanks though

exredhouseresident 05-01-2012 01:16 AM

I wouldnt trust your opinion of you if I were you.

illmitch 05-01-2012 03:13 AM

good to know

SheenaShiva 05-01-2012 10:04 AM

this sounds like a bunch of hipsters who knew a black guy being like lets EXPERIMENT with rap itll be NEW AND COOL

publicastration 05-01-2012 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=exredhouseresident;18859687]
If you didnt have such a strong proclivity for stupidity, detectable by your taste in rap, I would imagine you'd hate yourself, given how stupid you are.[/QUOTE]

dude what, lil b is FUN, get your own dick out of your ass its not stupid to enjoy something as silly and fun as the shit he makes

also cooking is the best thing ever when you're high

illmitch 05-01-2012 10:13 AM

why u gotta make it about drugs man

publicastration 05-01-2012 10:15 AM

drunk too i guess

illmitch 05-01-2012 10:17 AM

if you cant cook a rare meal when you are completely sober then you are not a true #based chef

publicastration 05-01-2012 10:21 AM

first off don't you think lil b is high like 24/7

second i just said its mad fun high and/or drunk

and i just started i gotta long way to go

illmitch 05-01-2012 10:22 AM

why does it matter if hes high 24/7

lil b is healthy for you all hours of the day DONT TRY TO PIN THE BASED GOD DOWN

publicastration 05-01-2012 10:24 AM

because every rare meal he cooks is while under the influence

illmitch 05-01-2012 10:26 AM

stop trying to justify your dependencies luc

publicastration 05-01-2012 10:27 AM

saying its fun while high means i cant cook when not high

yesssssssssssssssssssssss

Juddybear 05-01-2012 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=illmitch;18860003]stop trying to justify your dependencies luc[/QUOTE]

looool

Idnuf 05-01-2012 01:38 PM

[QUOTE=exredhouseresident;18859687]Ive already named some and if I went on to name more, a side debate riddled with trivial comparisons would develop and it would be ridiculously off topic. I'd much prefer staying on topic.[/QUOTE]

That has to be the worst attempt to escape the corner you've been backed into I've ever seen.


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