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matious 04-02-2012 10:37 PM

ur trippin dude, that jj doom stuff was craycray

Simpleton 04-02-2012 10:56 PM

[QUOTE=publicastration;18840502]doom kinda fails now idk[/QUOTE]

Doom is old fat and lazy. i love that motherfucker

Urinetrouble 04-02-2012 11:15 PM

[QUOTE=publicastration;18840502]doom kinda fails now idk[/QUOTE]

luc being an example of a dumb fucktard again. Good job bro:thumb:

[QUOTE=matious;18840486]Yikes bro, it doesn't get more stereotypical than that.

Bronson raps about being lonely, food fixations, drug abuse, his ancestral history. He has good presence on the beats and a good multisyllabic flow.

Danny brown lyrics typically follow " nigga your like this/
/nigga im like this"[/QUOTE]

My problem with this is that Bronson is even more stereotypical than Brown because he's cookie-cutter, no name NY rapper #4566 rapping about cookie cutter, NY-rap centric topics, such as ancestral history, drug abuse, being lonely, being gangster, etc. all with a white-boy twist that makes it even worse. So before you go and make Bronson out to be different, he's a very stereotypical New York rapper and a Ghostface clone.

I don't care if you like Brown or not, that's your own choice, but calling him generic and claiming that Bronson is even the slightest bit original is really fucking dumb and ignorant on your part. Good day.

matious 04-03-2012 11:01 AM

Never said Bronson was original, i like that he emulates that new york flavor in a modern way. I said he sounded like Ghostface in the original post. Lol good day

GOOD DAY SIR

Danny Brown [I]is[/I] generic man, he's only aesthetically appealing. Nobody cared for danny brown when he wore NBA jerseys and fitted hats and rapped with a normal voice. It was when he started dressing flamboyant and really accentuating his annoying nasal drown delivery that people took notice.

They both share the same "cookie cutter" topics ( or real life experiences, term i prefer to use) but your correct, that "white boy twist" is very much absent.

Musically Brown is just another simple punchline rapper. The lil wayne analogy wasn't completely accurate, but in terms of fashion appeal and mannerisms, drug promotion whatever, they're pretty darn similiar, just with different demographics. Danny Brown is the lil wayne equivalent of the "underground" if you will.

Danny Brown helped push Exxquire into the spotlight which is cool though.

Gorgon 04-03-2012 12:14 PM

you do know that being aesthetically appealing is exactly what the phrase "good music" implies, eh?
Yeah, what a surprise! When he started being weird and different people started to pay attention.

also have you listened to XXX? He has lots of narrative songs and lyrics in there, not just punchlines. And to call them simple is a bit of a cop out, simplicity does not imply inelegance. His imagery is some of the best I've heard and that doesn't require being 'complex' which generally means convoluted when it comes to musicians.

You could write a good lyric that is simple and doesn't use words that are out of your vocabulary, or you could be a pretentious fool that uses a dictionary/thesaurus/etc to 'expand' your vocab and write a 'complex' lyric that just uses words incorrectly. Too many rappers to name that do this...

matious 04-03-2012 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=Gorgon;18840909]you do know that being aesthetically appealing is exactly what the phrase "good music" implies, eh? [/quote]

Was speaking strictly of his appearance

[QUOTE]
Yeah, what a surprise! When he started being weird and different people started to pay attention.[/QUOTE]

Eh, I'd describe it more as prettier packaging. He didn't really mature musically, he just put a bow on top of it. I actually prefer the sound of [I]the hybrid[/I]
[QUOTE]
also have you listened to XXX? He has lots of narrative songs and lyrics in there, not just punchlines. And to call them simple is a bit of a cop out, simplicity does not imply inelegance. His imagery is some of the best I've heard and that doesn't require being 'complex' which generally means convoluted when it comes to musicians.[/QUOTE]

I agree in general, but I do think Danny Brown is simple in a negative way. I will if this debate continues, but I'd prefer to not have to go back and listen to XXX again just to be better able to articulate why I don't like it.
[quote]
You could write a good lyric that is simple and doesn't use words that are out of your vocabulary, or you could be a pretentious fool that uses a dictionary/thesaurus/etc to 'expand' your vocab and write a 'complex' lyric that just uses words incorrectly. Too many rappers to name that do this...[/QUOTE]

Of course and I totally agree. Danny Brown isn't better for his simple wordplay ,however.

Gorgon 04-03-2012 12:29 PM

I don't even remember there being much word play in the album, mostly just very visual phrases.

his annunciation and his flow did change from the hybrid to XXX, Detroit 187 is a good example of how he did grow up and try new things.

you can not like XXX all you want, I just don't see why you think that Brown is a worse MC than Bronson. I think that's absolutely absurd.

matious 04-03-2012 12:36 PM

I never even insinuated bronson was a better MC, I just said Danny Brown bores me, which he does. I'll keep listening to him though, check out his next releases or whatever the fuck "bruiser brigade" does which is a corney rap crew name he needs to fix that

Gorgon 04-03-2012 12:38 PM

lol bruiser brigade
hilarious name

Idnuf 04-03-2012 01:20 PM

[QUOTE=matious;18840918]I never even insinuated bronson was a better MC[/QUOTE]

yes making posts where you say "action bronson is [positive description] and danny brown is [negative description]" definitely doesn't insinuate anything

Simpleton 04-03-2012 02:08 PM

[QUOTE=Gorgon;18840909]you do know that being aesthetically appealing is exactly what the phrase "good music" implies, eh?
Yeah, what a surprise! When he started being weird and different people started to pay attention.
[/QUOTE]
Jesus, quit being such a [I][B]baby[/B][/I]

Gorgon 04-03-2012 02:09 PM

nice

WooHa 04-04-2012 01:12 PM

matious what do you think of the Bad Meets Evil EP?
Also have you listened to Crooked I?

illmitch 04-04-2012 01:56 PM

lol at comparing this guy to danny brown

Urinetrouble 04-04-2012 06:11 PM

[QUOTE=WooHa;18841730]matious what do you think of the Bad Meets Evil EP?
Also have you listened to Crooked I?[/QUOTE]

1. lol meh as fuck
2. fell off hard slaughterhouse is just self-indulgent battle rap with no talent for songwriting

publicastration 04-04-2012 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=Urinetrouble;18840655]luc being an example of a dumb fucktard again. Good job bro:thumb:[/QUOTE]

maybe I feel this way just cause he hasn't made anything as good as madvillainy idk

accordion is one of my favorite rap songs ever

Urinetrouble 04-04-2012 08:21 PM

[QUOTE=publicastration;18842078]maybe I feel this way just cause he hasn't made anything as good as madvillainy idk

accordion is one of my favorite rap songs ever[/QUOTE]

may not be as good as madvillainy, but its still damn good. You honestly can't expect an artist, let alone a rap artist, to maintain that sort of consistent quality over their career. No one has done it in the history of rap. So, good job at being dumb:thumb:

publicastration 04-04-2012 08:22 PM

I'm dumb because I have extreme [i]preference[/i]

my point is that it's NOT madvillainy, I'm not the biggest doom fan to begin with, MM... food might be good if the production wasn't stop/start grating annoying, madvillainy is the only shit of his that I've absolutely loved

matious 04-04-2012 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=publicastration;18842078]maybe I feel this way just cause he hasn't made anything as good as madvillainy idk

accordion is one of my favorite rap songs ever[/QUOTE]

I'm a big doom fanboy, so I really enjoyed born like this. Tracks like gazzilionaire and cellz were on par with his best, the rest of it wasn't as hot; im not a fan of jake one as a producer.

But everything Doom has done lately has been crazy original. Every new song since the thom yorke collaboration has been at least interesting. Doom has been able to stay relevant in hip hop for almost 2 decades now, thats crazy for the genre.

And Vaudeville Villian is my favorite release by him. It's not as comfortable to listen to but its fucking crazy, best lyrical showcase by doom .

matious 04-04-2012 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=WooHa;18841730]matious what do you think of the Bad Meets Evil EP?
Also have you listened to Crooked I?[/QUOTE]

Royce Da 5'9 was enough to scare me away from BME but ill check it out if you think its worth it.

Never listened to Crooked I neither, sorry.

Urinetrouble 04-04-2012 10:17 PM

[QUOTE=matious;18842179]I'm a big doom fanboy, so I really enjoyed born like this. Tracks like gazzilionaire and cellz were on par with his best, the rest of it wasn't as hot; im not a fan of jake one as a producer.

But everything Doom has done lately has been crazy original. Every new song since the thom yorke collaboration has been at least interesting. Doom has been able to stay relevant in hip hop for almost 2 decades now, thats crazy for the genre.

And Vaudeville Villian is my favorite release by him. It's not as comfortable to listen to but its fucking crazy, best lyrical showcase by doom .[/QUOTE]

hell yeah brah. madvillain is my favorite too. Doom fanbois 4ever. luc and his bandwagoning ass can die

[QUOTE=matious;18842182]Royce Da 5'9 was enough to scare me away from BME but ill check it out if you think its worth it.

Never listened to Crooked I neither, sorry.[/QUOTE]

check my post bro

[QUOTE=publicastration;18842120]I'm dumb because I have extreme [i]preference[/i]

my point is that it's NOT madvillainy, I'm not the biggest doom fan to begin with, MM... food might be good if the production wasn't stop/start grating annoying, madvillainy is the only shit of his that I've absolutely loved[/QUOTE]

no, you're dumb because you compare the rest of his work to madvillainy, like a dumbass. Also-
>not a doom fan
>2012
[IMG]http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/498/1300044776986.jpg[/IMG]

Tupik 04-05-2012 08:09 AM

[QUOTE=Urinetrouble;18842118]may not be as good as madvillainy, but its still damn good. You honestly can't expect an artist, let alone a rap artist, to maintain that sort of consistent quality over their career. [B]No one has done it in the history of rap[/B]. So, good job at being dumb:thumb:[/QUOTE]

The Roots man, The Roots

illmitch 04-05-2012 09:02 AM

doomsday is the best mf doom album

Simpleton 04-05-2012 11:30 AM

i like King Geedorah more than doomsday

1. Madvilliany
2. King Geedorah
3. Doomsday
4. Food/Vaudville

HighandDriving 04-05-2012 12:19 PM

I love King Geedorah, especially Fastlane.

Vision clear like a hindu with the the third eye dot, baby that's the word I got.

Doom is one of my fav producers eva. Wish he would make some new beats or something.

Stoked for Doomstarks.

HighandDriving 04-05-2012 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=Simpleton;18842654]i like King Geedorah more than doomsday

1. Madvilliany
2. King Geedorah
3. Doomsday
4. Food/Vaudville[/QUOTE]

You eva listen to this, noob?

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Unicron_Cover.jpg[/IMG]

Simpleton 04-05-2012 04:06 PM

yeah, fastlane, fazers, next levels, the fine print...king geedorah is quality son. not to mention everyone and their retarded brother has remixed next levels.


what is that shit? when did that come out?

matious 04-05-2012 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18842681]I love King Geedorah, especially Fastlane.

Vision clear like a hindu with the the third eye dot, baby that's the word I got.

Doom is one of my fav producers eva. Wish he would make some new beats or something.

Stoked for Doomstarks.[/QUOTE]

doom starks is never gonna come out man, they announced that shit like forever ago.

:upset:

publicastration 04-05-2012 07:18 PM

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18842685]You eva listen to this, noob?

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Unicron_Cover.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

okay so maybe doom can produce who knew

WooHa 04-05-2012 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=matious;18842182]Royce Da 5'9 was enough to scare me away from BME but ill check it out if you think its worth it.

Never listened to Crooked I neither, sorry.[/QUOTE]

Beats are kinda meh but lyrically it's one of the best records released the last year
Check out these Eminem wordplays:

[I]Had a dream[/I] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQyIj-wDyg) [I]I was king, I woke up still king
Rap game’s nipple is mine for the milking[/I] (ML King)

or this

[I]Thought I snapped back in that accent cause she kept asking me
To quit calling her cunt, I said I CANT[/I]

Royce has many dope lines there too.

Crooked I is a lyrical monster, check out some lines here:
[url]http://myveryownmusictheories.blogspot.com/2011/01/punchlines.html[/url]
I also made a thread once here but sputnik didn't seem to understand in which level this guy is
[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=591984[/url]

I see that you appreciate lyricism like no one else in this forum that's why i suggest you to check them out.

Urinetrouble you are a total faggot, please don't make me waste my time replying to your stupid posts

publicastration 04-05-2012 08:39 PM

loooooooooooooooooooooooool

bad meets evil sucked

WooHa 04-05-2012 09:22 PM

dude please don't force me to post a page of bars outta there

forget the beats. if you think that rapping sucked on this record then reconsider listening to hip hop

Urinetrouble 04-05-2012 10:49 PM

wooha just because you are worse than luc and you listen to shitty battle rap doesn't mean we need to see pages of verses. The rapping is good but the lyrics are shit. I remember when I was like you and first listened to hip-hop.

Simpleton 04-05-2012 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=publicastration;18842997]okay so maybe doom can produce who knew[/QUOTE]

2003 knew


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6XSZ4WtxuM&feature=related[/url]

/officialDOOMthread

Gorgon 04-06-2012 09:30 AM

yeah wooha those lyrics were garbage

WooHa 04-06-2012 11:35 AM

[QUOTE=Urinetrouble;18843130]wooha just because you are worse than luc and you listen to shitty battle rap doesn't mean we need to see pages of verses. The rapping is good but the lyrics are shit. I remember when I was like you and first listened to hip-hop.[/QUOTE]

hahahaha you jelly

Blazey 04-06-2012 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=Simpleton;18842882]yeah, fastlane, fazers, next levels, the fine print...king geedorah is quality son. not to mention everyone and their retarded brother has remixed next levels.


what is that shit? when did that come out?[/QUOTE]

Don't worry about it noob just dl it and recognize.

matious 04-06-2012 01:28 PM

[QUOTE=WooHa;18843023]Beats are kinda meh but lyrically it's one of the best records released the last year
Check out these Eminem wordplays:

[I]Had a dream[/I] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQyIj-wDyg) [I]I was king, I woke up still king
Rap game’s nipple is mine for the milking[/I] (ML King)

or this

[I]Thought I snapped back in that accent cause she kept asking me
To quit calling her cunt, I said I CANT[/I]

Royce has many dope lines there too.

Crooked I is a lyrical monster, check out some lines here:
[url]http://myveryownmusictheories.blogspot.com/2011/01/punchlines.html[/url]
I also made a thread once here but sputnik didn't seem to understand in which level this guy is
[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=591984[/url]

I see that you appreciate lyricism like no one else in this forum that's why i suggest you to check them out.

Urinetrouble you are a total faggot, please don't make me waste my time replying to your stupid posts[/QUOTE]

Dude why did you link me to a martin luther king speech lol!!

those lines are okay man you should check out jedi mind tricks or boot camp clik if you love slaughterhouse so much

Urinetrouble 04-06-2012 03:48 PM

wooha is such a bitch

illmitch 04-06-2012 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=Urinetrouble;18843130]wooha just because you are worse than luc and you listen to shitty battle rap doesn't mean we need to see pages of verses. The rapping is good but the lyrics are shit. I remember when I was like you and first listened to hip-hop.[/QUOTE]

:lol:


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