Overcast has slowly became one of my favorites. Metalcore these days has gotten stale, and now everyone tries to hide the fact they play metalcore by tuning their guitars down to Drop A and calling it death metal.

[QUOTE]God dethroned(not sure if they are metal core)[/QUOTE]

No.

I like a lot of what I've heard from All That Remains. Between the Buried and Me are excellent, but they're really just prog metal because they draw their influences from so many different genres (even some black metal in The Primer and some of their other vocal parts). Unearth are extremely overrated imo. All their breakdowns sound exactly the same. Some bands do good breakdowns, but not Unearth.

Scars Of Tomorrow
-haven't heard much from them...
The Acacia Strain
-are they any good?
A Perfect Murder
-more thrashy but i can see the metalcore
The Agony Scene
-i need to dl their album...
The Bled
-post-hardcore...
Cave-In
-who?
Dead To Fall
-awesome
From Autumn To Ashes
-more on the post-hardcore side...
If Hope Dies
-meh
Misery Signals
- great band

Unearth invented the breakdown

Anything with a central unit of process is laugh inducing.

Sure.

[quote]Yeah I used to be a huge metalcore guy[/quote]Why Can't you still be? I like Death, Black, Prog, Core, whatever. Metal is Metal.

[QUOTE]Also, I got Kezia by Protest The Hero today, that such a great album[/QUOTE]
Not metalcore.

i like any metal that sounds good and if aeveryone esle hates it too bad guess i'll the only true fan when the band makes it big and all the posers start liking them >.> muhahahahahahaha

[QUOTE=encmetalhead;14782015]i like any metal that sounds good and if aeveryone esle hates it too bad guess i'll the only true fan when the band makes it big and all the posers start liking them >.> muhahahahahahaha[/QUOTE]

Do you seriously ever think before you post?

Maybe he's touching his wiener before he posts.

Seems like he's typing with it more than anything.

I don't care what ya'll say so why say crap about me if i'm just going to skip over it?

Anyway, would you consider this band metalcore? [url]http://www.myspace.com/knivesexchanginghands[/url]

If it has breakdowns it's metalcore.

Why ya'll gotta hate?

I don't really know what metalcore is. But bands I've heard described as metalcore that i like include Caliban pretty much one of the forefathers of the genre I've been told [they're like a German Killswitch Engage, but heavier and unlike KE they knock out some amazing songs]. From Autum to Ashes are a big favourite but as someone mentioned they're more 'post-hardcore' [I don't really know what that is either to be honest]. I never could stand Underoath but recently listened to Define the Great Line again and I am hooked, just superb music. Bring Me The Horizon are quite good, clearly influenced by death metal. Sound similar to The Black Dahlia Murder but more brutal at times. I like bits and pieces by 36 Crazy Fists and As I Lay Dying but haven't devoted an awful lot of time to listening to them. Between the Buried have some incredible songs. Poison the Well obviously, althought I'd argue their first album is more straight up hardcore than metalcore. Everything since has been much more melodic and experimental. I also like It Dies Today even if they're percieved as a cheap imitation band by many. I can't stand Botch. They come across as an influential band who every 'cool' kid has heard their favourite metalcore, hardcore bands quote them as an influence and have decided they like them. I think they are severely lacking in the inability to write a good song. If you want mathmetal check out Mudyavne [joking]. Althought at least Mudvayne can write the odd memorable song.

[QUOTE]Caliban pretty much one of the forefathers of the genre I've been told[/QUOTE]
no.

ok...that helps...maybe...not really...i don't really knwo what breakdowns sound like

anyway, a month and 7 days till KEH drops their debut on tragic hero

Dude seriously what the ****ing hell are you talking about?

Quit hatin. Buncha player haters up in here.

Line one clearly stated i did not knwo what breakdowns sounded like

line 2 clearly stated that the band i just posted (Knives Exchanging hands, or KEH for short) was releasinf their debut in a month and 7 days on Tragic Hero Records

It was clearly stated.

Breakdown is

*arpeggiated tone-centered-chords*
*vocal line, with something cliché like "leaving you behind" or "i'm done the world is fear" or anything containing the words pain, leave, hate, love, behind, going, you, me, in CLEAN VOCALS (very important)*
*crescendo*
*back to chorus*

Or where it slows down majorly, most of the time.

that's in punk/hardcore

breakdowns are just bridges wtf ever.

I like a lot local bands which mix up metalcore, death metal, black metal and Melodic Death Metal. But yeah I love KSE, As I Lay Dying, Flood Of Red, Converge and Botch.

[quote]words pain, leave, hate, love, behind, going, you, me, [/quote] Haha, you, me. As I Lay Dying are allright. For generic stuff its aight, but Converge and Botch are pioneers

[quote]If it has breakdowns it's metalcore.[/quote] Which brings me back to my Converge argument.

[quote]Not metalcore.[/quote] Well, its Metal with, uhhh...well, maybe a lil bit Metalcore.

Does anyone like It Dies Today?

No.

[QUOTE=hottiebassplayer;14784162]Does anyone like It Dies Today?[/QUOTE]

Scene kids with bad taste and Matt, yes.

Just listen to Coalesce.

Well, its a gulity pleasure of mine, Along with The Devil Wears Prada and As I Lay Dying (to a certain extent). lawl. I just flushed all my good music tatses down the toilet with that one.

I don't mind a song or two from Devil Wears Prada. It Dies Today reeks of terrible though. And while I'm being honest, I don't have anything against As I Lay Dying. Forever and Song 10 are both good songs, and there's a few cool riffs on Shadows Are Security. I wouldn't ever listen to more than a couple songs though.

Coalesce would be so awesome if they had a good vocalist.

My god. Im gonna state the obviosu here. They may not be metalcore, or maybe just slightly, but Kezia by Protest The Hero is just...godly.

Coalesce are ACE!

I just have Functioning on Impatience but it's perfect.

Except for the annoying clean vocals. They have a nice sense of urgency in them though.

The clean ones are weird, but I can stand them.

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;14784216]I don't mind a song or two from Devil Wears Prada. It Dies Today reeks of terrible though. And while I'm being honest, I don't have anything against As I Lay Dying. Forever and Song 10 are both good songs, and there's a few cool riffs on Shadows Are Security. I wouldn't ever listen to more than a couple songs though.

Coalesce would be so awesome if they had a good vocalist.[/QUOTE]

Too bad they have an awesome vocalist.

I need to check those guys out, but idk if i need anymore metalcore. I have about 500+ songs of it. 300+ death metal. 300+ other metal.

Oh and check out all else failed.