I dont really get all the 'lets hate the new misfits' stuff, i've not seen the original lineup live so i can't compare properly, and obviously danzig was a better singer, but the new misfits are a fun band to watch, sure their not the greatest or most original, but if i was wanting original music all the time then i probably wouldn't listen to punk.

fair point bruce. But you gotta admit that Jerry Only is a money grabbing arsehole. And being only 18 and living in Australia means that I never have, and probably never will see the misfits live...

Anoybody hear about Danzigs new album?

He's taking a bunch of Misfits songs and re doing them lounge style.

I didn't know that was Danzig, I thought it was the Misfits? But yeah I heard about it, called "Fiend Club Lounge". Sounds cool, especially if you like Richard Cheese

[QUOTE=(r)evolution]Blashphemer! The Misfits heavily influenced hundreds of bands[/QUOTE]

like who?

AFI, Metallica, Samhain, etc...

Slayer, Slipknot, and even those bastards Blink-182 were influenced by the Misfits.

Samhain being the best out of those. Oh, I forgot about Son of Sam. Also a great band. I wish they'd put out another album, that'd be sweet.

[QUOTE=whiteminority]Slayer, Slipknot, and even those bastards Blink-182 were influenced by the Misfits.[/QUOTE]

Then it would have been better for the misfits to not have existed.

following that line of reasoning it would have been better for Iggy Pop not to have been born because if it wasn't for him there wouldn't be punk and thus there wouldn't be pop-punk. you can't blame people for who they influence

American Psycho>Static Age

Graves>Danzig.

I can take rocks thrown at me, f[B][I][/I][/B]uckers.

*throws bricks*

nah you're about right I suppose. I just download all of my misfits, so I don't particularly care about albums, I just make compilations of all the songs I happen to like.

Actually,

Danzig>>>>>>>>>Graves

By far.

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I wonder how many people are saying "Danzig>Graves" just to sound cool.

I really understand why everyone has to be so stuck up about this. Admit it, Graves is a very talented vocalist. Like him or not, the man can sing. And his style really brought out the 50's rock influence in the band's music, which I like.

As much as I love Danzig, he's human as well, and has made some bad albums himself. I really believe that a lot of people are just glorifying him and dissing Graves to sound more tr00... or whatever the hell it is punks call it. I don't know, I'm a metalhead.

yay for steerpike. i'd agree with the 50's rock influence thing, that is something i dig heavilly in the misfits. And who cares if Graves isn't a screaming leftwing hippie, Johnny Ramone was a republican party member all his life, it's not like the misfits or the ramones ever really pushed a politcal idea

I think Graves' personal politics is only part of it. Truth is, it seems a lot of people dismiss Graves as inferior for the sole fact that he's not the original singer.

I've seen a lot of similar crap in R&M as well, and it's all the same bullsh[size=2]i[/size]t reasoning. People are just too married to the diea of a particular line-up, and blind themselves to the virtues of another.

I think Danzig sucks for the most part, but his stuff with the Misfits is a million times better than what Graves did with the Misfits. I doubt anyone is saying it "to be cool."

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21]I doubt anyone is saying it "to be cool."[/QUOTE]

Don't be too quick on that. Remember that stupidity is ubiquitous and never discriminates. Punks, rockers, metalheads, ska fans, blues hipsters, jazz junkies... No matter what genre you look into, there's always someone who's going to make dumb[size=2]a[/size]ss remarks to sound more competent and "pure."

Well, mostly everyone agrees that the Misfits with Danzig were way better than the Misfits with Graves. With Graves, they weren't really punk anymore, they were on the verge of metal.

(shrugs) I didn't really notice, nor did I really care. I really like the music from both eras. Both had their virtues. Good music is good music.

yeah i think i'm down with that. i do enjoy Project 1950's

Meh... Project 1950 has some good songs on it, but mostly left me cold. Of their new work, I liked American Phsycho the best.

the music on project 50's wasn't so hot. but i dug the concept and it's inspired me to rework some classic stuff

I personally could care less, i give glenn much respect for bieng the origional, and graves has a decent voice.

I liked the old Misfits for a lot of reasons. One of them being the period of my life when I discovered punk and self expression. I still like listening to old Misfits. What I have heard of the new Misfits I don't really like. Without Danzig (Even though I detest his cheesy solo ego-metal) the Misfits are "the shadow of the Misfits".

i like how graves is more melodic

Well, Danzig has a very ghoulish crooning voice. He sounds like he could be equally at home in a jazz band as a punk or metal group. The Elvis-impersonator accent also adds a little levity and gives his singing a sort of dark humor to it, even in his solo work which can get pretty heavy lyrically.

Graves has more of a 50's rocker howl. Like Danzig, he clearly draws influence from rockabilly and classic rock, but his voice is smoother, more lulling. He can still get a good rock 'n' roll voice going when he needs to, but his true strength is in his sustain and dynamics.

So, to sum it up:

-Danzig has a more aggressive voice, and is able to shift easily between clean and dirty vocals with a crooning tone that gives him a sort of classical, sinister sound.
-Graves is like a classic rock singer who has a blues-inspired howl designed to milk as much feel out of each note as possible.

I think they're both great in their own ways.

*applauds*

The only songs with Graves that I like are Helena, Dig Up Her Bones, Scream, Scarecrow Man, Forbidden Zone, Saturday Night, and Fiend Club.

i like Descending Angel.

*cowers in fear*

I forgot about that song, I like that one too.

Phew, i thought i'd get blasted, coz noone else seems to have mentioned it. I love it, the spooky "woooooohs" in the background definately cheese my biscuit

[QUOTE=RIP Ian Curtis]following that line of reasoning it would have been better for Iggy Pop not to have been born because if it wasn't for him there wouldn't be punk and thus there wouldn't be pop-punk. you can't blame people for who they influence[/QUOTE]

Very illogical argument. The Misifts gave birth to bands like Blink 182, slipknot, and slayer. Iggy, although indirectly gave birth to pop-punk, he did directly give birth to almost the entire punk scene. With Iggy, you take the good with the bad. With The Misfits, you take the bad with the crappy.

i don't mind slayer myself, although i agree that the other two bands are terrible. There's got a to be a good band somewhere that is Misfits influenced...

I love the Misfits, they're one of my favourite bands.

Graves and Danzig are both awesome in my eyes.

[QUOTE=antiflagsetsfire]Very illogical argument. The Misifts gave birth to bands like Blink 182, slipknot, and slayer. Iggy, although indirectly gave birth to pop-punk, he did directly give birth to almost the entire punk scene. With Iggy, you take the good with the bad. With The Misfits, you take the bad with the crappy.[/QUOTE]

Slipknot also site Alice Cooper as an influence. Does that mean we should Hate Alice Cooper, too?

It's silly to hate a band because of who they ended up influencing. As if they have any control over it. :rolleyes:

recently i started to play with my ps2 again, and i was finishing san andreas for like the 5th time. you know how they have radio stations, i think danzig was singing. was he?

[QUOTE=Oz Rembrant]I love the Misfits, they're one of my favourite bands.

Graves and Danzig are both awesome in my eyes.[/QUOTE]

graves sucks

your right imnot, danzig performs "mother" (his best song) on Radio X