[QUOTE]Sometimes when i try to hit some really high notes I end up sounding like Kurmet the Frog[/QUOTE]

hahaha to me, when glenn danzig does realllllly low notes sometimes he sounds like that!

[QUOTE=fenderplayer1100]Hey, I just started singing a month ago...I don't have a vocal coach or anything, but the singer that i'm TRYING to mimic is Freddie Mercury....Well first off when I wake up and try to sing along with Queen songs I can't hit certain notes because of flem blockage in my through. How do i get rid of the flem....and could u tell me some warm-ups that u guys use to prepare for singing. And did Freddy Mercury use his head voice in the song "Killer Queen". Oh and another thing...Sometimes when i try to hit some really high notes I end up sounding like Kurmet the Frog...Does anyone know how to stop that from happening? Thanks[/QUOTE]
Keep your tongue relaxed...it will help with the kermit thing. Try to keep the tip maybe barely on your bottom front teeth. Not pushing hard though. And try to feel the back of your tongue wanting to rub your top back teeth. (cuspids? bicuspids? whatever). Now dont take this to the extreme but just see if youre close to it or what your tendencies are when singing higher true voice that is. Falsetto is kinda a different animal but in general you just dont want your tongue to stiffen or to push back and or down.

[b]Primadonna Or Stage Fright?[/b]

[QUOTE=ThePinkPanther]oh and a question for the thread, i don't think my singer likes his voice, but its perfectly fine. Is there any way to make him more confident.[/QUOTE]
It's easy to dismiss this as a personality problem, but speaking as someone who had a very hard time with this, I don't think this is something you can sweep under the rug and expect to go away.

It takes some serious cojones to be able to stand up in front of people, look them in the eye, and sing. And it takes the big brass variety of cojones to stand up in front of people, look them in the eye, and [i]blow it[/i].

When a guitarist hits one off into the weeds during a solo, he can usually recover and people will generally understand that guitar solos are hard. No big deal.

When a vocalist hits a sour note, however, well, that's not only a sign of a bad vocalist, but a bad [i]person[/i] as well.

Sound a bit much? Think about your own reactions to each of these situations and decide for yourself.

A vocalist who misses notes gets absolutely no respect -- much less than instrumentalists who do likewise.

[b]Therapy In Your Face[/b]

For a skittish vocalist, my recommendation is to confront the issue head-on, which is mainly one of self-consciousness and self-confidence.

Veterans of drama class are familiar with various exercises for getting rid of stage jitters. Most of them involve doing things that are outrageous and generally not socially acceptable.

Your vocalist needs to learn that he is a person that sings, not a person [i]because[/i] he sings, and there's a huge difference.

Be sensitive to the problem, but be honest about it. He needs to take himself less seriously, learn how to separate his ego from his art and practice being able to look people in the eye while singing [i]terribly[/i] without flinching.

Once he can do that, he's ready to perform [i]brilliantly[/i].

Confronting the problem at its roots and using drama class style exercises (like getting up in each other's faces and screaming maniacally before performing) to loosen up is the best way to solve a problem like this.

My $0.02, anyway.

Well yea. But I dont get it...If youre a singer...then youre a singer. If you want to be a singer, or a performer. then youre not a singer. Youre just still wanting to be. So if you say youre a singer in a band...then that means you can sing and perform. Being in a band means you have to play in front of people. So I dont get it. Its like someone saying they want to be a singer because it looks cool. If you cant sing well enough to have the confidence to get up in front of people then you dont need to be in a band until you do. You cant make someone know they can sing...he has to find that out himself so that he knows it. If you know you can sing, but you just get stage fright, then you dont need to be in a band.

Isn't there some kind of software out there that can show you your voice while you practice singing so you can check your pitch and fix it on the spot?

Okay I'd like to try and sing like the lead singer from Bowling For Soup. I want to sing their son "Ridiculous"

Heres a link to the video because I can't find one for the song only.
[url]http://bowlingforsoup.com/videos.html[/url]

The one title "That Mystery Enhancement"

Software to check pitch.
 

I have seen a request for software to check pitch. I have found Anvil Studio ([url]http://www.anvilstudio.com/[/url]). The initial program is free, but there are extra tools you can buy for it. One of the tools is called Music Drills, within that tool is a voice training tool. Whether this works or not I have no idea, I haven't spent the 20 bucks on it.

Supposidly you sing the note into the microphone and it judges if you are singing too flat or too sharp or perfect. I have been tempted alot to try it and think I might one day soon just to find out.

i've just started to learn how to sing, I'm trying to do lead vocals for a band. like 3 days now. my voice sounds somewhat sleepy. can i fix this? also, even when i hit a right note wchich does happen every once in a while, i sorta sound nerdy. is there any way to change this? i know i've only been learning for three days, but i'm just wondering.

sleepy and nerdy....not good words to define the voice if youre looking for help you gotta be specific. Or post a sample.


If by nerdy you mean nasal, then theres a thread open about that right now with some advice in it.

not like nasal........i dunno how to explain......like....breathy sort of voice, it sounds like I'm just talking louder when i try to sing.

have you tried changing the way you breathe? You can change the entire sound of your singing voice by blowing more air through your larynx when you sing. Also it is important to visualise the tones you want to sing and push the air right from your gut. It sounds to me from your description that it might be a problem with your breath support.

hope it helps

i find bert mc crackens style works just smoke lol i do and it makes my voice raspy bad and i can go along with any screamer but it all sounds the same im working on adding pitch to my screaming by the way anyone know any bands in san antonio texas looking for a singer/screamer cause im looking for a band and cant find **** i would really like to be in one and i know i could sing my heart out no matter what i guess if anyone knows anything or even where i would post an ad like that on here let me know thanks and yeah

Well you never find it, if your looking for it!
Rather waste some time with you!
Shai

I'd like to scream/growl like the singer of between The Buried And Me, but whenever I try screaming, my throat hurts, and I can only go for about 10 seconds before running out of breathe. :/

Suggestions?

[QUOTE=Shy_times]i find bert mc crackens style works just smoke lol i do and it makes my voice raspy bad and i can go along with any screamer but it all sounds the same im working on adding pitch to my screaming by the way anyone know any bands in san antonio texas looking for a singer/screamer cause im looking for a band and cant find **** i would really like to be in one and i know i could sing my heart out no matter what i guess if anyone knows anything or even where i would post an ad like that on here let me know thanks and yeah

Well you never find it, if your looking for it!
Rather waste some time with you!
Shai[/QUOTE]
Please noone take this advice.

[QUOTE=deat]I'd like to scream/growl like the singer of between The Buried And Me, but whenever I try screaming, my throat hurts, and I can only go for about 10 seconds before running out of breathe. :/

Suggestions?[/QUOTE] Yea stop. Because youre doing it wrong.

Go to the First page of this thread and read if youre serious. [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

[QUOTE=Al Strzelecki]not like nasal........i dunno how to explain......like....breathy sort of voice, it sounds like I'm just talking louder when i try to sing.[/QUOTE]
You may be trying to sing in the wrong voice...like trying to stretch your chest voice up to head range. Chances are youre tensing the throat as well. Relax and try to mimic some opera type vocals. Figaro.....etc.

Alright, thanks.

yeah dont take my advice im just as novice or unprepared as anyone else asking for help on here it was merely a joke i agree with the what a wonderful world thing work on making your voice that way and a normal talk or normal tone then gradually build it up till you can get the response you want i dont agree with smoking to do it but it really does make my voice raspy but then again i chain smoke so yeah there you go but yeah id go with the louis armstrong thing eventually you will find your voice and in all reality whos to tell anyone they are doing it wrong but yourselves you can find your own voice your own sound withing the results your getting and roll with that eventually you will get better and reach the outcome you would like till then i dont know have fun and still can someone answer my question is there another thread on here i can post i guess like an ad to see if any bands want a singer?

[QUOTE=fenderplayer1100]Hey, I just started singing a month ago...I don't have a vocal coach or anything, but the singer that i'm TRYING to mimic is Freddie Mercury....Well first off when I wake up and try to sing along with Queen songs I can't hit certain notes because of flem blockage in my through. How do i get rid of the flem....and could u tell me some warm-ups that u guys use to prepare for singing. And did Freddy Mercury use his head voice in the song "Killer Queen". Oh and another thing...Sometimes when i try to hit some really high notes I end up sounding like Kurmet the Frog...Does anyone know how to stop that from happening? Thanks[/QUOTE]

warm tea works good nothing thick like milk it will just make the flem worse i have asthma so i get alot of that stuff but warm tea or something thin like warm water or something will get through it or you could just loogy it :thumb:

Hey if any one could give me some tips i would be very thankful.

I want to be able to sing in a soft manor similiar to elliott smith. He sings usually fairly soft and sometimes hits beatiful high notes. My problem is that i can contstantly never get high enough for want i want to achieve. It sounds to bland. If anyone could give me tips on making my voice higher while still sounding good that would be awesome.

To sing higher than normal you have to have good technique...and work your cords til you can get enough strength to reach. There is no magic trick to improving range really. I give some things to work on in my voicehelp hotline.

Doing vocal excersizes while running.. will this help me improve my ability to sustain a note? And my overall singing stamina?

Alright... I've been trying to teach myself how to sing lately. I can't afford lessons, and definently won't be able to for quite some time. I've been having some problems...

One, whenever I sing, it sounds weak, and every time I record it and play it back, it sounds like I'm continually holding back, and no matter what I do, I can't seem to stop that. I have range, I just can't use it, becuase it always sounds weak and shaky.

Two, whenever I try to scream, it's like my voice just locks up and no sound comes out at all. It's rather annoying. Especially considering I've wanted to be a singer for as long as I can remember. What can I say, I'm an attention whore. :p

Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Doing vocal excersizes while running.. will this help me improve my ability to sustain a note? And my overall singing stamina?[/QUOTE]I've done it before....not that much...I dont think it really helped me all that much. It does warm you up though, just to jog by itself. I would be too concentrated on the nature going on around me, and would always sing afterwards.

I dont really know...the key is that you usually increase diaphragm endurance...and lung efficiency and lung capacity of course by jogging/exercise. THat translates into longer possible notes, stronger possible notes.

If you do, be careful because it seems too easy to strain or grunt.


[QUOTE=The_Red_Death]Alright... I've been trying to teach myself how to sing lately. I can't afford lessons, and definently won't be able to for quite some time. I've been having some problems...

One, whenever I sing, it sounds weak, and every time I record it and play it back, it sounds like I'm continually holding back, and no matter what I do, I can't seem to stop that. I have range, I just can't use it, becuase it always sounds weak and shaky.

Two, whenever I try to scream, it's like my voice just locks up and no sound comes out at all. It's rather annoying. Especially considering I've wanted to be a singer for as long as I can remember. What can I say, I'm an attention whore. :p

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]


go here [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

I have a problem in my falsetto.

When I sing in falsetto around a G or G# note, it doesn't work. I kinda get two notes mixed together and it sounds horrible. The rest of my falsetto I can use fine. I really don't understand what the problem is and any help would be greatly appreciated.

Signing off, a struggling singer :upset:

[QUOTE=zaneo88]I have a problem in my falsetto.

When I sing in falsetto around a G or G# note, it doesn't work. I kinda get two notes mixed together and it sounds horrible. The rest of my falsetto I can use fine. I really don't understand what the problem is and any help would be greatly appreciated.

Signing off, a struggling singer :upset:[/QUOTE]
Is this the top of your range? If so then that would be an obvious reason.

Okay Sliptallica recommended i came to you Merkaba. Im a newb to singing well.

Basically what are good exercises for singing? Also for screaming?

And can you choose what kind of growl you do? I like Opeth's vocals the most because he sounds so evil when he growls and sounds beautiful when he sings if that helps you at all.

[QUOTE=AngusYoung413]Umm I was wondering how to add a more raspy tone to my voice. I know you covered raspy fallsetto screams, Merkaba, but I just wanted to know how to add rasp to my normal singing voice.[/QUOTE]

go under water or put your face in a pilo and scream as loud as you can for a while it happened to me but i didnt want it to

and your talking voice will get raspy and cracked

[QUOTE=flamesofbodom]Okay Sliptallica recommended i came to you Merkaba. Im a newb to singing well.

Basically what are good exercises for singing? Also for screaming?

And can you choose what kind of growl you do? I like Opeth's vocals the most because he sounds so evil when he growls and sounds beautiful when he sings if that helps you at all.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

But nah...that doesnt help me. Because its all the same. But it will be a matter of how your vocal setup is(i.e. size of layrnx,cords,etc, which you cant change) combined with your strength and flexibility and stamina(which you can change). Anyone want to post a sample of Akerfeldt's stuff...????


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[QUOTE=meatpuppet1593]go under water or put your face in a pilo and scream as loud as you can for a while it happened to me but i didnt want it to

and your talking voice will get raspy and cracked[/QUOTE]


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I like to do some low style acoustic stuff, I'm pretty happy with my voice but I do have some difficulty hitting the higher type notes. I know to practice.. and practice.. and I do, but I haven't seen myself improving at all. Any ideas?

Also.. I just recently got into screamo/hardcore stuff, and I have a pretty good scream voice.. the only thing is, a friend of mine told me if I keep practicing this I wont be able to do acoustic stuff because my voice will be damaged. Is this true? And if so how can I practice this without doing any damage so I can sing both?

Here's my question: What exercises would you recommend for increasing the control of my voice so that I could pull off some Bruce Dickinson(Iron Maiden) or Geoff Tate(Queensryche) style singing? I've been swimming for a team my whole life and singing for a good year and a half so I know how to control my diaphragm, which brings me to believe that I don't have the control to pull off the higher end of the scale. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Mookie if you take your time and use proper technique you could be screaming forever as far as I'm concerned because it doesnt take as much push and strain as most people think. Hopefully you will practice enough to find this out with proper technique. I cant teach that over the internet. Learn to get raspy notes at a low amount of push. Check out the isolation thread if you havent. [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]
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Burning water...knowing about your diaphragm is good but its not going to directly translate into singing...at least not from a swimming background. You'll have good volume and air supply maybe. But it is a bit different when you have to clamp your cords around this pillar of air...and to minimize clamping otherthings. You have to be able to keep the larynx relaxed as you go up. And you can learn to hold it open like a yawn position, as you activate the cords. If you can sing, then its just a matter of constant practice and trying to stay relaxed. Be sure to warm up good too. [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]

I did warm up and kept myself like you said, and I did get a better result. I just need to practice it more. Thanks for the help. But I've got another question. During my search for vocal guidance I came across an article that I found was very interesting. I believe it said that not only do we have the two voice registers of the chest voice and falsetto, but we've also got another register, a more subtle register that lies in between both of them. It still uses your chest voice, but you've also got the breathy feeling of falsetto and can hit higher notes with more power. I've started use that register and it has helped my singing tremendously. Now, my question is... is this actually another voice register, or is it just a mental trick to get you to hit higher notes in your chest voice?

The vocal registers, in order from lowest to highest are
Vocal Fry(not really to sing, its the rattle sound you kind of make sometimes if you wake up early and make a weird, cracking noise).
Chest Voice
Mix voice
Head Voice
Falsetto
Whistle Register

Sweet, thanks for the register info.

hey everyone. I sing backup for My band as well as play drums. At a show we recently had, my mic was turned up kinda loud and i ended up being louder than the lead vocals for a while. Everyone told me that i was really good and that i should try being the lead singer. Well the other day a freind of mine asked me if i wanted to sing for his band in the fall. I agreed but now im kinda running into some problems. I listen to a lot of Thrice, and i want to be able to sing like Dustin. When i sing along with the songs, i can hit every note perfectly, but when i play it on my guitar my voice just blends in with the music. I guess my question is How do you sing fairly low tone wise and still project without blending into the music. Would simply turing up the mic solve this problem? When i listen to dustin of thrice sing, it seems to me that i am matching his pitch but im not projecting as much as he is.

Ok, I'm 14 years old, and I have a pretty deep voice. I play in a black metal band (melodic, not the standard 3 minute speed crap), as keyboardist, and we need a vocalist. Each of us are gonna try singing, and none of us have sang seriously before.

Now, the type of vocal style I'm going for is similar to Erik from Amon Amarth, I have a fairly deep voice but it's not deep enough to sound accurately like Erik.

For reference, here's what he sounds like (mp3 taken off official site) on the track Death In Fire: [url]http://www.metalblade.de/mp3/amonamarth-Deathinfire.mp3[/url]

Any way I can deepen my voice?

i'm in a metal/hardcore band, and i'm the screamer and growler, i can do lows and highs and i guess u can say extreme highs like randy of lamb of god (the squealing thing i guess) and i cant do it when i'm tired, i was jw somedays i can do it like amazing and others not so good, it's not like my voice hurts or anything it just isnt as loud or powerful, jw what was going on, we play shows all the time and i wanted to know if u knew any screaming exercises just to be on the safe side of things before a show. thanks

[QUOTE=lamblite]i'm in a metal/hardcore band, and i'm the screamer and growler, i can do lows and highs and i guess u can say extreme highs like randy of lamb of god (the squealing thing i guess) and i cant do it when i'm tired, i was jw somedays i can do it like amazing and others not so good, it's not like my voice hurts or anything it just isnt as loud or powerful, jw what was going on, we play shows all the time and i wanted to know if u knew any screaming exercises just to be on the safe side of things before a show. thanks[/QUOTE]
What do you do to warm up....oh, nothing. No wonder!

If youre serious about it then start warming up. There's just no excuse to not warm up to some degree and anything helps. You want to hold some notes and keep the cords together which keeps them moist and warmer quicker. You can be doing this stuff way before the show when youre not doing anythig or walking to the car, pissin', etc. Start in your chest voice doing melodies and such, then move to head voice. Do alot of glisses up and down before going into falsetto if youre using it later. If you can get what you want sometimes and sometimes can't..then youre not warming up enough and or youre getting excited and squeezing the throat. It doesnt seem to be out of your range, so....be smart.

Of course alcohol and smoking will sometimes....well...we know that one.

thanks, i'll start warming up, usually my vocal chords are tight when i wake up but after i take a shower they losen up, i guess the steam in the hot water, and usually after we practice a song i drink water to help also and it seems to beworking. thanks for ur help

here's an example of my vocals if u were interested in hearing what it sounds like and if u could tell me if i'm doing something wrong.
[url]www.myspace.com/fight4hazel[/url]
the song this is my heart has the most vocal range