[QUOTE=Unstable Mind]You're just saying how the media labels pop-punk as punk. Therefore, Simple Plan fanboys go to hot topic and other places in the mall to buy their rebellion.

"The Ramones? Who the hell are they?", Is what some dude who thinks he's a punk came up and said. (I don't think I'm punk, I just like the music :) ).[/QUOTE]
Not just pop-punk, they'll label stuff like Blondie punk.

???????

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Exactly. Posers try to fit into a scene by insisting that they're right. They think it will make them look more competent.

Remember last week, the thread about listing bands in certain genres? There was that one kid who kept classifying all these bands wrong (i.e. [B]Scorpions -[/B] [B]power metal[/B]) and when people called him on it, he accused us of knowing nothing and then bailed. Poser material, right there.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, he's a douchebag. He'll probably classify Rhapsody and Iced Earth as jazz fusion :lol:

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]Not just pop-punk, they'll label stuff like Blondie punk.

???????[/QUOTE]
:amaze:

Blondie and punk do not fit into the same sentence.

hey 80's punk was good so as though I don't have to hear all that anarchy bullsh|t comein from these "posers" mouths like the ever dreaded anarchy in the UK well I yell "YOU LIVE IN ****|N AMERICA YOU STUPID ****|N SH|T FU(KS" (and this is to the people that constantley change to be something there not like one day theyll be punk the next metal then goth then pop then some other stupid crap that you can't just jump on board and be "hey I'm here lets go because I obviously have no clue what this is or what I'm getting into")

Rambaling done...

Hmm... Wasnt everything so much simpler in the 50's, when you listened to either jazz, blues, swing, or rock n' roll...there was no "mainstream" and there was so much cool chromed stuff...

[QUOTE=nicovski]Hmm... Wasnt everything so much simpler in the 50's, when you listened to either jazz, blues, swing, or rock n' roll...there was no "mainstream" and there was so much cool chromed stuff...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but then came along the radio. And MTV.

The good part is, theres more of a variety.

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]I like punk, just the real stuff:

Monster Squad
GBH
The Unseen
Exploited
Virus
Oxymoron
A Global Threat

I'm not trying to say punk is bad. :)[/QUOTE]


All those bands own. Good Charlotte compared to GBH,Is there a comparison there,nope,and that's what's so bad about. You let these kids listen to Crass or something and they're like 'That's not punk'. It kills me I swear.

[QUOTE=chairman_of_the_board]All those bands own. Good Charlotte compared to GBH,Is there a comparison there,nope,and that's what's so bad about. You let these kids listen to Crass or something and they're like 'That's not punk'. It kills me I swear.[/QUOTE]
I know, their ignorance knows no bounds. :(

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]Not just pop-punk, they'll label stuff like Blondie punk.

???????[/QUOTE]
I can't stand that. I've heard an idiot say Three Days Grace was his favorite punk band. Also, one time I was listening to Cryptopsy on my walkman, and someone asked me if they could hear it. So of course, I showed them, and there response was "I hate that punk crap." I just stared at the idiot in disbelief.

In my point of view, posers are:

-People who simply download music, never buy any albums, and yet still claim to love a certain band.
-People who go into Hot Topic and buy a shirt of a band, yet not own any albums from that particular band.
-People who buy the latest album by a band that's been around for many years, but claim to have liked them for the longest time.
-People who go to a concert of a band they've simply heard of off of MTV, but not actually know any of their songs.

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]I can't stand that. I've heard an idiot say Three Days Grace was his favorite punk band. Also, one time I was listening to Cryptopsy on my walkman, and someone asked me if they could hear it. So of course, I showed them, and there response was "I hate that punk crap." I just stared at the idiot in disbelief.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, some dude listened to one of my Children of Bodom cds and was like "I like Punk Rock like Green Day better, this band is too straight up punk."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I think we've already covered that posers are people who want to fit into a particular scene because they think it will be convenient or beneficial for them. However, they don't possess the proper mindset, dedication, or beliefs to truly adopt the lifestyle of the scene, so they take every stereotype they can find, live up to it, and then pretend to know what they're talking about.

Posers are easy to spot because of their cliched arguments and stances, lack of substance backing their statements, stereotypical behaviour, and brash dismissal of anyone in the scene in question who calls them on their ignorance.

Once a poser has effectively made himself a pariah in the current scene, he scraps the act and picks up another one.

In life, everyone is either a leader of a follower. Posers are the worst kind of followers.[/QUOTE]
well explained

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]Yeah, some dude listened to one of my Children of Bodom cds and was like "I like Punk Rock like Green Day better, this band is too straight up punk."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: Once ignorance reaches that level, it's no longer ignorance; it's stupidity.

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]Yeah, some dude listened to one of my Children of Bodom cds and was like "I like Punk Rock like Green Day better, this band is too straight up punk."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Sounds like my friend...he calls music he doesn't like "punk [COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]hit"

I swear, he acts like hes 40...he likes REALLY old classical music, most of which is like that technoish 70s dance.

Anyway, i think a poser is somebody who is too "elite" to try out other forms of music, and refuses to be wrong in that their music taste is the best.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]
Anyway, i think a poser is somebody who is too "elite" to try out other forms of music, and refuses to be wrong in that their music taste is the best.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't that be an elitist?

Yeah, that's really more of an elitist than anything else.

By the way, Shattered_Future, I got the Celtic Frost thread up. Should be on page 2.

[QUOTE=fallenstar]Slipknot makes poser songs just to make money. Thier good stuff isnt even on a cd like the song Pulse of the maggots. So thats why thier sellouts and posers listen to them.[/QUOTE]

You're an idiot, they make music because that is what they like to do, the band themselves have said many times they don't give a f*ck what other people think.

Pulse of the Maggots is on Vol. 3: Subliminal Verses

I listen to them, but I also listen to probably 50 other metal bands, I am not a poser

It's spelled POSEUR.

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]It's spelled POSEUR.[/QUOTE]
Meh, poser is more convenient. :p

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]You're an idiot, they make music because that is what they like to do, the band themselves have said many times they don't give a f*ck what other people think.

Pulse of the Maggots is on Vol. 3: Subliminal Verses

I listen to them, but I also listen to probably 50 other metal bands, I am not a poser[/QUOTE]

Slipknot still aren't the most credible people in the world. And they certainly are pretentious. I believe it was Cory Tailor who said their masks were an expression of who they are inside. Very interesting considering the story I heard was that one of their "percussionists" bought a clown mask hoping it would help him overcome his stage fright since no one could see his face, then the rest of the band thought that was a good idea and the rest was history.

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]I listen to them, but I also listen to probably 50 other metal bands, I am not a poser[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I don't consider someone who listens to Slipknot a poseur, but the idiots who think they are "goth" and "hardcore" for listening to them. On the other hand, I agree completely with the remarks made against them.

[QUOTE=Quest]In my point of view, posers are:

-People who simply download music, never buy any albums, and yet still claim to love a certain band.
[/QUOTE]Not really because I lack access to lots of bands due to distribution factors. So if I download some of their stuff and enjoy it, how can I not be a fan. Pull your head out of your a[b][i][/b][/i]ss please.

[QUOTE=Berner]Not really because I lack access to lots of bands due to distribution factors. So if I download some of their stuff and enjoy it, how can I not be a fan. Pull your head out of your a[b][i][/b][/i]ss please.[/QUOTE]

He's referring to the people who do have the means to buy the albums, but are too cheap/lazy.

I myself have ot download music to find new bands because at the moment, my budget is way too tight to go out and buy three new albums every weekend. Whenever I can, I do get the albums. That's what separates people like you and me from the retards in question.

[QUOTE=Quest].
-People who go to a concert of a band they've simply heard of off of MTV, but not actually know any of their songs.[/QUOTE]

Maybe they heard from a friend they were great and he/she wanted to check them out and what music does mtv play anyway?

in regard to the wrongful labelling of pop-punk as "punk" i've noticed a general imporvement, i don't get MTV but at least on much music whenever they refer to blink or GC it's always Pop-punk now, i've heard Avril refer to herself that way, and i saw GC say thier image isn't at all related to thier music, and people shouldn't call thier music punk or goth because they dress that way.

Simply, a poser is someone who claims to like something because it's "cool" to like

[QUOTE=InFlames.KsE]Simply, a poser is someone who claims to like something because it's "cool" to like[/QUOTE]

Best. Definition. Ever.

somehting you said reminded me of conservatives





[QUOTE=Steerpike]I think we've already covered that posers are people who want to fit into a particular scene because they think it will be convenient or beneficial for them. However, they don't possess the proper mindset, dedication, or beliefs to truly adopt the lifestyle of the scene, so they take every stereotype they can find, live up to it, and then pretend to know what they're talking about.

Posers are easy to spot because of their cliched arguments and stances, lack of substance backing their statements, stereotypical behaviour, and brash dismissal of anyone in the scene in question who calls them on their ignorance.

Once a poser has effectively made himself a pariah in the current scene, he scraps the act and picks up another one.

In life, everyone is either a leader of a follower. Posers are the worst kind of followers.[/QUOTE]

a poser to me is an east indian kid who thinks hes a black rapper

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Yeah, that's really more of an elitist than anything else.

By the way, Shattered_Future, I got the Celtic Frost thread up. Should be on page 2.[/QUOTE]

Saw that...you did a good job.
Sry bout not leaving feedback...only had time to glance at it before i had to leave.

Anyway, i kind of think an elitist and a poser are the same thing...they are both unyielding in their efforts to spread "good" music to people (which often isn't good music).

However, posers also try to appear to be the embodiment of a certain genre through clothing and music. So called "hardcore" kids with their many spiked/studded bracelets, pants with legs as wide as people's bodies, and colored hair are posers. They simply have no idea what is going on.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]
However, posers also try to appear to be the embodiment of a certain genre through clothing and music. So called "hardcore" kids with their many spiked/studded bracelets, pants with legs as wide as people's bodies, and colored hair are posers. They simply have no idea what is going on.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, someone I knew for a long time that had always been a very nice, open-minded person music wise started doing that crap and I'm glad to say I no longer talk to them. I'm sorry, but none of that makes you "cool".

sonic youth - probably the best punk band that i've ever heard so far, i'm probably going to get flamed by this, because most people think that sonic youth is an indie/alternative band, but i do think that theyre punk because mainly of their lyrics,
like drinking jizm for example and beating cops to death, they dont talk about any of that "i hate my parents" type of **** or any of that "my boyfriend left me" avril stuff

[QUOTE=White Goodman]Yeah, someone I know for a long time that had always been a very nice, open-minded person music wise started doing that crap and I'm glad to say I no longer talk to them. I'm sorry, but none of that makes you "cool".[/QUOTE]

I used to be like that too...
Gradually, i got off of that stuff...it was REAAAALLLLY uncomfortable. Also, it didn't really do anything for me, cept make me really sweaty.

[QUOTE=Quest]In my point of view, posers are:

-People who simply download music, never buy any albums, and yet still claim to love a certain band.
[/QUOTE]


I totally disagree,man. I love a lot of bands and I've downloaded most or all of their albums. I buy their t-shirts and go to their shows, so what's wrong with downloading their music? Bands hardly get any money off of record sales anyway.

[QUOTE=laura_au]sonic youth - probably the best punk band that i've ever heard so far, i'm probably going to get flamed by this, because most people think that sonic youth is an indie/alternative band, but i do think that theyre punk because mainly of their lyrics,
like drinking jizm for example and beating cops to death, they dont talk about any of that "i hate my parents" type of **** or any of that "my boyfriend left me" avril stuff[/QUOTE]

You need a new definition of punk. Go listen to Bad Religion or The Clash, and don't come back until you do.

Have a nice day. :)

lmao, I have a new prime example of a poser. I was just in a rock chatroom, and the question was "Which rock band are you addicted to at the moment" and then I saw one girl's answer "Maroon 5". I don't think I have to say anything more.

My definition of female posers...

Little girls i can easily subdue and sodomize

[QUOTE=White Goodman]lmao, I have a new prime example of a poser. I was just in a rock chatroom, and the question was "Which rock band are you addicted to at the moment" and then I saw one girl's answer "Maroon 5". I don't think I have to say anything more.[/QUOTE]

Maroon 5... aren't they a pop-rock band?

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Maroon 5... aren't they a pop-rock band?[/QUOTE]

IMO, I just don't think you could use them in the same sentence as the word "rock".

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Maroon 5... aren't they a pop-rock band?[/QUOTE]

I never really thought of them as "rock".

Well, i think of them as "crap", but they seem to be more of an alternative band.

Rock i consider to be Creed, Pearl Jam, Tool, and the like.