[QUOTE=rik]"Dream of Mirrors" hasn't been mentioned yet. I think it's a fantastic demonstration of how good his right foot is.[/QUOTE]That's true, but most people listen to the soft beginning and don't see it to the full 9 minutes.

out of the silent planet chorus ftw

Well, they should. It's an amazing song, probably in my top ten Maiden songs.

It is a great song nothing beats Where Eagles Dare that is a great song

Don't know if any or all of this has been said yet. I attended a Nicko clinic on the Premier Roadshow last year and these are the facts about his bassery:

1. He uses single kick because he finds it easier: he only sees using 2 bass pedals as complicating things.
2. He used a double bass pedal on "Face in the Sand" off the Dance of Death album. He admits it's the only drum part he ever "cheated" on - the slave pedal had to be made a lot louder in the mixing process because there was such a dynamic inbalance in his double bass playing.

For Nicko's best footwork IMO, check out Dream of Mirrors and The Wickerman.

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[QUOTE=rik]"Dream of Mirrors" hasn't been mentioned yet. I think it's a fantastic demonstration of how good his right foot is.[/QUOTE]

I'm listening to it right now. The part sounds ****ing awesome, but it's not really that complicated. It's just

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The chorus in Out of the Silent Planet is pretty much the same beat. It's clever - putting the bass on "+ a" gives it the gallop feel only using doubles. Obviously damn hard to keep up at that pace for as long as he does, but in the end it's not really that tricky.

What album is "Where Eagles Dare" on?

Piece of Mind.

Wow! No one mentioned "Caught Somewhere in Time"!?!?!?!?

Fast single pedal gallops ftw!

I've onlyread the first couple posts, but is the evil that men do with a single pedal?

[QUOTE=Dannyboy15]Yes, its single bass on the wicker man.

I read somewhere that he used a double bass pedal on the DoD album.[/QUOTE]


He used it. Hated it. Then said he'd never use it again.

And Clive Burr didnt even have double kicks let alone play doubles (from my knowledge anyway)

[QUOTE=LiquidTensionTheatre]Don't know if any or all of this has been said yet. I attended a Nicko clinic on the Premier Roadshow last year and these are the facts about his bassery:

1. He uses single kick because he finds it easier: he only sees using 2 bass pedals as complicating things.
2. He used a double bass pedal on "Face in the Sand" off the Dance of Death album. He admits it's the only drum part he ever "cheated" on - the slave pedal had to be made a lot louder in the mixing process because there was such a dynamic inbalance in his double bass playing.

For Nicko's best footwork IMO, check out Dream of Mirrors and The Wickerman.

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which part in wicker man?

Nicko McBrian + Single bass pedal = Great and unique Dumming
Nicko McBrian + DB pedal = major disaster

And btw which part of wicker man.

Thank you for your time.

A double pedal is not cheating. I only really wanted a double pedal, because of my theory that: if I can play every drum with two hands, then why the hell should I not have the option of playing my bass [B]drum[/B] with two feet.

I still suck at double bass.

[QUOTE=alexmonty12]I almost fell off my chair when they got to the "Your time will come" bit in Wicker Man and I heard the footwork in that :eek:[/QUOTE]

well i did fall off my chair when i heard it. almost hit my head and cracked it open on my fire place(again), and spilled Coke all over the carpet. my parents didn't appreciate that much.

i've recently been thrown into an Iron Maiden obsession and it ain't goin' away anytime soon. i just started learnin' some tunes the other day, jesus i love Nicko. i gotta say though, double pedal or not, i love the new album, i think Paschendale might be one of my all time favorite songs. ever.

this may seem like a stupid question but does any one know what foot technique Nicko uses?

Dream Of Mirrors

[QUOTE=PainKiller8191]^I don't like that album...haven't heard alot of it

about the single bass pedal...thats pretty ****ing awesome...i used to play drums i wouldnt get anywhere near that with one foot...i guess thats why i didnt play for maiden eh? :chug:[/QUOTE]
Its on the same cd as wicker man, I think I still have it(or let a friend borrow it) I think its Brave New World, I remember it was blue and pretty new. Yeah thats it. Great CD, different but great

yep, Wickerman is on Brave New World

Mmmm, iron maiden. mmm, earls court, 22nd december. Mmmm, nicko mcbrain

[QUOTE=Real live junkie]And btw which part of wicker man.[/QUOTE]

The two notable bass parts in the Wickerman are the Chorus (constant 16ths at a good tempo) and some intricacies in the verse, where he uses pretty much lightning-speed doubles before snare hits.

As he would describe it... *dagaDA!*

What a guy. Can't wait till December... Seeing them again =)

And Dragonforce the week before :cool:

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I guess you're seeing them in cardiff?

Nicko is the man. I thought he was good, and I just now learned that he doesn't use the double bass pedal much. That's really interesting.

Nicko
 

Guys Ur Fools!
U fink he can't use a single pedal....u say its impossible, listen to tracks like good times bad times by led zepplin, now that is insane. John bonham is the king of single pedals!
I jstu went and played the wicked man for the first time and i could do it no probs!

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[QUOTE=TOBIASLUVSDRUMS]Guys Ur Fools!
U fink he can't use a single pedal....u say its impossible, listen to tracks like good times bad times by led zepplin, now that is insane. John bonham is the king of single pedals!
I jstu went and played the wicked man for the first time and i could do it no probs!

X[/QUOTE]

...wicked man? LoL'd.

But can you play it with as much power as Nicko, with consistent bass strokes? and at the speed he plays it live? Flawlessly?

And who said he can't use a single pedal :confused:

And yeah maniac0796 I'm seeing them in Cardiff. Really can't wait.

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[QUOTE=TOBIASLUVSDRUMS]Guys Ur Fools!
U fink he can't use a single pedal....u say its impossible, listen to tracks like good times bad times by led zepplin, now that is insane. John bonham is the king of single pedals!
I jstu went and played the wicked man for the first time and i could do it no probs!

X
[/QUOTE]
haha I absolutely love how he starts his first post with 'Guys Ur Fools!'

[QUOTE=LiquidTensionTheatre]The two notable bass parts in the Wickerman are the Chorus (constant 16ths at a good tempo) and some intricacies in the verse, where he uses pretty much lightning-speed doubles before snare hits.

As he would describe it... *dagaDA!*

What a guy. Can't wait till December... Seeing them again =)

And Dragonforce the week before :cool:

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Isn't the Wicker man chorus 8th notes in halftime? I just got Edward the Great, my first Iron Maiden CD. Ahh it rocks my socks. Eh has anyone watched the Rock in Rio Run to the Hills video? The crowd energy is seriously insane, you could almost grab it from the air and like play with it.

way to bump a month old thread with no meaning

[quote=LiquidTensionTheatre]...wicked man? LoL'd.

But can you play it with as much power as Nicko, with consistent bass strokes? and at the speed he plays it live? Flawlessly?

And who said he can't use a single pedal :confused:

And yeah maniac0796 I'm seeing them in Cardiff. Really can't wait.

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Actually...Nicko can't do it flawlessly, he normally slows down slightly and there's always a BIG power drop. He uses a noise gate or something similar live though, which explains why it sounds so good on recordings.

If you go on ironmaiden.com though, watch the Nicko cam vid, you'll hear the power drop.

Was that comment so important that you had to bump the thread? Come on..

EDIT SO I DONT POST AGAIN: Point taken.

[quote=British Boy]Was that comment so important that you had to bump the thread? Come on..[/quote]

Bumping threads isn't a great concern of mine...

The way I figure it, if it annoys people, they can just let the thread slide away... if people post, I can only assume they have something else to add to the thread.


So my question to you is: Was THAT comment so important that you had to keep the thread going? :chug:

I can play the wicker man with my single pedal so I'm sure Nicko can do it.

[QUOTE=Zildjian]way to bump a[B][U] Year[/U][/B] old thread with no meaning[/QUOTE]

fixd.

i count 3 month or over bumps on this thread...

[QUOTE=TOBIASLUVSDRUMS;12822744]Guys Ur Fools!
U fink he can't use a single pedal....u say its impossible, listen to tracks like good times bad times by led zepplin, now that is insane. John bonham is the king of single pedals!
I jstu went and played the wicked man for the first time and i could do it no probs!

X[/QUOTE]

well, excuse my bad english...im from argentina...i can speak spanish if you wish...or german...
i only want to say that i really like iron maiden and i think its a great drummer nicko. Of curse, he isnt so good as other drummers e.g. steve smith or dave weckl( jazz) but he's realy good. I am a drummer too...and i really cant believe that you played the wicker man without warm up...even if you do it you cant have played it at the same speed and time...
if you can then congratulations!

Why the hell was this bumped?

[QUOTE=Chameleon;7713335]Hehehehehehe, for a while I was reallllllly into Maiden. Now I just thing they have some cracking songs and are a great live act, but i'm not as obssessed...but i'm still on the Maiden board and this topic comes up all the time, and we end up saying the same thing over and over.

But just to re-iterate what's been said (the true parts): Nicko never once used a double pedal until '04 when they recorded "Face in the Sand" on Dance of Death. And as many people have said in this thread, that was purely for stamina.

A common misconception with McBrain is that he does groups of three (or as people often incorrectly call them, "triplets") in songs like Sign of the Cross (see Rock in Rio) and Ghost of the Navigator. As somebody above said, it's just doubles with his foot.

The other thing you notice about him is that his sound is awfully consistant (especially on Rock in Rio), so if you know anything about sound technology you can probably tell that there is some heavy noise gate/compressor work here, whcih evens out the strokes. If you don't believe me, download this video from a video camera backstage during the Wickerman:

[url]http://www.ironmaiden.com/media/images/low/IID00000911.wmv[/url]

You can hear a noticeable dip in volume at the chorus when he does the 8th/16th notes (depending on whether you argue that the tempo marking changes for the chorus or remains constant). I quite like Nicko, he has a pretty unique style even if his chops aren't out of this world, and his foot skill is pretty above average.[/QUOTE]

missconception?
i like that word...but why do you meen that it is incorrect to call them triplets?
their are three bass storkes in one time...with a unisound(?) with the snare...ryde or hit hat establish the time......what is wrong?

[QUOTE=Arpanet;12287608]I'm listening to it right now. The part sounds ****ing awesome, but it's not really that complicated. It's just

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S|----o-------o---|-
B|--oo--oo--oo--oo|-
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The chorus in Out of the Silent Planet is pretty much the same beat. It's clever - putting the bass on "+ a" gives it the gallop feel only using doubles. Obviously damn hard to keep up at that pace for as long as he does, but in the end it's not really that tricky.[/QUOTE]

you know about drums, i can see it, but are you so sure about your afirmation?

[QUOTE=Corkofski;13056150]fixd.

i count 3 month or over bumps on this thread...[/QUOTE]

make that 4...

srsly...

WTF?

who cares?

[QUOTE=DrummerJonny;14697493]make that 4...

srsly...

WTF?[/QUOTE]

what is bump?????????

When you post in a topic no ones touched in months.

You've bumped a topic from 2 years ago.

what i dont get is:

if someone bumps, we flame.

if they dont search before new thread, we flame.

how do you not get flamed?