"1440 beats in a minute (as opposed to bpm)"

You may have meant "hits" but you didn't say it.

Anyway, blast beats are alright, but they have a very limited application. If you play that genre, cool, but the music that calls for it is not extensive, and learning them wont help you alot outside of that genre.

[QUOTE=dumbassdrummer]"1440 beats in a minute (as opposed to bpm)"

You may have meant "hits" but you didn't say it.

Anyway, blast beats are alright, but they have a very limited application. If you play that genre, cool, but the music that calls for it is not extensive, and learning them wont help you alot outside of that genre.[/QUOTE]
Well, learning how to play them will build your chops like mad, which would be useful for ANY genre.

If you listen to Death Metal for a while, you really learn to love blastbeats.

Check out Decapitated - Nihility (the drummer is 16 years old on that record)
and Behemoth - Satanica

Also, for some really inventive use of Blastbeats, fast Double pedals, odd times, and pretty much every drumming style you can think of. Listen to the new Between The Buried And Me record - Alaska.

Night Terror is also insane.

But anyway, I thought I might post a couple of videos of Derek Roddy, who playes for Hate Eternal, they are videos of a studio session.

[URL=http://www.derekroddy.com/free_video/behold.wmv]http://www.derekroddy.com/free_video/behold.wmv[/URL]

[URL=http://www.derekroddy.com/free_video/will.wmv]http://www.derekroddy.com/free_video/will.wmv[/URL]

oddly enough most polka beats are slowed down blast beats. listen to a polka song.

Yeah but blastbeats sound retarded when they are slow.

[QUOTE=Hywel]Also, for some really inventive use of Blastbeats, fast Double pedals, odd times, and pretty much every drumming style you can think of. Listen to the new Between The Buried And Me record - Alaska.

[URL=http://www.derekroddy.com/free_video/behold.wmv]http://www.derekroddy.com/free_video/behold.wmv[/URL]

[URL=http://www.derekroddy.com/free_video/will.wmv]http://www.derekroddy.com/free_video/will.wmv[/URL][/QUOTE]


Alaska is a great record, good call.

And Blastbeats can still sound great on slower tempos, if played with a good sense of groove and clarity

I think it's already been said, but I don't want to be a grumpy bas**rd, but this doesn't belong here. The Advanced thread is getting like the Article and Lesson's section now. :(

Blast beats are something that can spice up your playing as much as ghost notes if you use them in the right place. Now they are grossly overused in death/black metal but if your playing a beat for 1 bar then you have one count of a blast beat before a fill then fill for 2 measures then redo the blast beat then go back into the basic beat its really cool. If used right they can add major energy into the song

I dont really like it when bands write songs with really deep, chugging guitars with blastbeats. Blasting is best over tremelo picking, with EVIL melodies between two guitars, harmonizing. :p

[QUOTE=Hywel]I dont really like it when bands write songs with really deep, chugging guitars with blastbeats. Blasting is best over tremelo picking, with EVIL melodies between two guitars, harmonizing. :p[/QUOTE]


Agreed. If done tastefully- it sounds great. I like when one guitar is playing a a repeating trem picked lick, and the other guitar is playing something lofty over it.

Blast beats are A-ok in my book, and i dont even really like death metal. Its all about the taste in which its performed.

i agree with the lopper i love putting blast beats in a sort of fill way or for short periods but not that black metal monotony duhdatduhdatduhdat etc etc
and why is this thread still in advanced?

id post a video of me doing a blast beat, i think blast beats are lame, but when i posted that video and said that someone neg. repped me. wtf ever.

[QUOTE=Loyton]id post a video of me doing a blast beat, i think blast beats are lame, but when i posted that video and said that someone neg. repped me. wtf ever.[/QUOTE]
Please do. I doubt that you can do one fast and clean, one footed, any faster then about 160 bpm.

[QUOTE]Please do. I doubt that you can do one fast and clean, one footed, any faster then about 160 bpm.[/QUOTE] Goddayum! 160 with one foot?! What the hell? Is that possible man?

*in Aw*

[QUOTE=faith+1]Goddayum! 160 with one foot?! What the hell? Is that possible man?

*in Aw*[/QUOTE]
:lol:

Me being guitarist, I dont have much in the way of discussion of the technical side of drumming with anyone (mainly cause I dont know that much...) but has anyone got a video of someone performing a Gravity blast? Ive heard these talked about with much reverence....

[QUOTE=faith+1]Goddayum! 160 with one foot?! What the hell? Is that possible man?

*in Aw*[/QUOTE]

Of course :D

[QUOTE=faith+1]Goddayum! 160 with one foot?! What the hell? Is that possible man?

[/QUOTE]


16ths @ 160bpm is totally possible with 1 foot.

well I would like to see someone keep that (continious 16th notes) up for 64 bars or something ;D

[QUOTE=Josiah]16ths @ 160bpm is totally possible with 1 foot.[/QUOTE]
Well it is possible, but if you playing staight 16ths @ 160 for a minute it is impossible. No drummer can touch that, not even Tim Waterson. No drummer has reached 1200 beats in a min. w/single strokes. That'd be singles at 320bpm and no one has reached 300 yet. But all that speed is kinda useless. :lol:

so, its agreed no one will neg. rep me if i post a lame video of me doing a lame blast beat about a year ago, since weve all decided its NOT musical?

hell i dont care. Copy and paste this into browser since hottlinking doesnt work.
[url]http://maelstrom999.tripod.com/Movie.wmv[/url]

[QUOTE=Loyton]hell i dont care. Copy and paste this into browser since hottlinking doesnt work.
[url]http://maelstrom999.tripod.com/Movie.wmv[/url][/QUOTE]
Well, some decent speed, but seems pretty sloppy and you start to slow down towards the end. Thats why blasts are hard....keeping them clean and consistent.

[QUOTE=TTTSNB]Well, some decent speed, but seems pretty sloppy and you start to slow down towards the end. Thats why blasts are hard....keeping them clean and consistent.[/QUOTE]


Yea. It wasnt really as good as it looked. Like i said, bout a year ago in that vid. But hey im not makin excuses, the camera quality also hid the double bass dirtyness.

[QUOTE=Loyton]Yea. It wasnt really as good as it looked. Like i said, bout a year ago in that vid. But hey im not makin excuses, the camera quality also hid the double bass dirtyness.[/QUOTE]
Hah, yeah its fine man, not trying to insult you or anything. Sounds better then what I can do.

[QUOTE=TTTSNB]Hah, yeah its fine man, not trying to insult you or anything. Sounds better then what I can do.[/QUOTE]

I highly dout that, ive pretty much thrown everything i knew about bass drumming out the window recently and started over. I figure better now then later with shoddy technique :thumb:

[QUOTE=Loyton]I highly dout that, ive pretty much thrown everything i knew about bass drumming out the window recently and started over. I figure better now then later with shoddy technique :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Dude...learn good bass technique. It helps for any style of playing.

Two words: Derek Roddy

[QUOTE=Josiah]16ths @ 160bpm is totally possible with 1 foot.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, maybe for 3 seconds using horrible technique, poor volume, and your dominant foot.

Playing 16ths at 320 bpm (which would be the equivalent of one foot playing 160) doesn't happen often, if ever.

OHHHHH BTW-JoJo Mayer's weird *** bass foot insanely cool fast as hell thing he does, doesn't count.

[QUOTE=poppinfresh][url]http://www.drummagazine.com/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=860&mode=thread&order=1&thold=-1[/url][/QUOTE]
Ha, now we can call death metal drummers wankers for ripping off polka music!

[QUOTE=BetweenTheEchoes]Yeah, maybe for 3 seconds using horrible technique, poor volume, and your dominant foot.

Playing 16ths at 320 bpm (which would be the equivalent of one foot playing 160) doesn't happen often, if ever.

OHHHHH BTW-JoJo Mayer's weird *** bass foot insanely cool fast as hell thing he does, doesn't count.[/QUOTE]

that's just heel-toe playing.

[QUOTE=motleyguy197666]that's just heel-toe playing.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure? I thought he was doing some kinda like...foot "shaking" thing.