I understood it, electronics on your kit rock. My friend has the SPDS and I was trying to persuade him to let me borrow it! It's a great addition to any kit.

[QUOTE=the_uber_penguin]Remember kids...[B]a few[/B] drummers are clever then the jokes make them out to be.[/QUOTE]

beleive me, some are.

[QUOTE=FatherKeeL]whats a rototom?[/QUOTE]A roto-tom is a drum that usually comes in a set of 3. They are tuned by rotating the head. Clockwise the drum becomes higher pitched, counter clockwise the tone lowers. You can see some Roto-toms in the D&P section of the site. I did an interview with CrazyDrummer4562 and in his interview he posted pictures of his kit with Roto-toms.

Here is the pic of the roto-toms.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/CrazyDrummer4562/Rightside.jpg[/IMG]

I love the sound of Roto-toms. My kit is too large to add Roto-toms or just about anything else. With the electronics in my kit I can assign Roto-tom .wav files to a set of pads and play them as if I had a set of actual Roto-toms.

I use this technology alot. In alot of The Eagles songs I put in steel drum sounds, and add alot of percussion things to a bunch of songs.


[QUOTE=tallicafan1]lol i didnt understand any of that[/QUOTE]
hahaha its really simple. Every electronic drum sound is a wave file. These are known as .wav files. You can get them anywhere. I took my SPDS, a microphone, a XLR cable, and a extension cord to Lowes (a home improvement store). I put it all in a shopping cart and walked around Lowes banging on stuff. When I found a really cool sound I plugged in the SPDS, sampled the sound and moved on. When I returned I uploaded all of these sounds into my laptop and edited them with Cooledit Pro into usable drum .wav files.

Basically this is how it works. Lets say you and I are friends. You have an antique cowbell that has a totally unique sound. I love the sound of the cowbell, you won't sell it. I bring my SPDS to your house, put my mic on it and strike the cowbell. I now have that exact cowbell sound stored as a .wav file. Next time I am playing a show I assign that .wav file to a certain drum pad. When I strike that pad it makes that unique antique cowbell sound.

All of these .wav files are organized into "patches". A patch is a collection of .wav files that are assigned to individial electronic drum pads. I have 11 drum pads on my kit that I can assign .wav files to.

A perfect example as to how I use this is Tool's Aenema. In the beginning of the song Maynard says, "Hey" 9 times. I have this sampled in my SPDS. When we play a show I strike the pad it is assigned to and Maynards voice comes through the PA and does the 9 heys.
A even better example is Crazy Train by Ozzy. I have him sampled saying, "ALL ABOARD!" then the "AYE AYE AYE" and then I have the exact Vibraslap used in that song sampled. These are 3 seperate .wav files. They are stored on my laptop in a patch called, Ozzy. When we are getting close to the song in the show my drum tech will load the patch and when we start the song it is ready to go.

..And it's a whole heap easier for gigs. No need to waste 20 channels and 2 hours of sound check time, micing up everything on the kit.
Just plug into the desk direct and you're right to go.

Yea, it saves alot of time. I use about 13 mics on my kit, depending on the situation. Drum check usually takes about 15 minutes so its not that bad. We know about where the sliders should be, it is usually just fitting the sound into the venue.

Has your band got your own sound tech, Ken?

Yea, we have a full time sound tech. He is killer, makes us sound like a cd.

[QUOTE=SonorKen]<SNIP>

Basically this is how it works. [b]Lets say[/b] you and I are friends...

<SNIP>[/QUOTE]

Ok.

"You and I are friends"

:p

I love the way you make is sound that you really don't want to be friends with that tallicafan1. :lol:

my drummer has rototoms, they're pretty cool.

It is my birthday.
:eek:

happy birthday!

[QUOTE=Jason101]happy birthday![/QUOTE]

Tah Brah.

question - is this a good buy?

[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3773116029[/url]

[QUOTE=Jason101]question - is this a good buy?

[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3773116029[/url][/QUOTE]

I've never heard of the MT120, but considering the price and the features it seems to have, you appear to have struck a very amazing bargain.

Well that was what I thought... I was half expecting to come on here to be told it's a pile of crap that was ridiculed the world over or something...

If I was a generous guy, that'd be your birthday present. As it is, I'm not, and it's not. :p :lol:

[QUOTE=Jason101]Well that was what I thought... I was half expecting to come on here to be told it's a pile of crap that was ridiculed the world over or something...

If I was a generous guy, that'd be your birthday present. As it is, I'm not, and it's not. :p :lol:[/QUOTE]

Pfft I have stars, What else could I possibly need? :eek:

What you wanting to use the multitrack for?

just general recording really - don't think it'll be much use for recording the entire band, (2-3 guitars, 2 singers plus the usual bass n' drums) but I reckon it'll do a job for acoustic songs/musical notepad work.

[QUOTE=Jason101]just general recording really - don't think it'll be much use for recording the entire band, (2-3 guitars, 2 singers plus the usual bass n' drums) but I reckon it'll do a job for acoustic songs/musical notepad work.[/QUOTE]

Get an external mixer like a Behringer UB1202, that wil lgive you 4 XLR inputs for the drums, Record drums on track one, record bass and rythmn guitar on track 2, record lead guitar on track three, then record both the vocals on track 4.

So - you say you play drums and vocals, KK - same time?

[QUOTE=Jason101]So - you say you play drums and vocals, KK - same time?[/QUOTE]

Nah, seperate, I sing for one band and drum for another.

ah right - was going to say - those that drum and sing are a rare and talented breed.

ok i have a question for any guitarists in here, i have a jackson ke3 and the volume pott seems to have fu.ked up. it ok until i turn it up to full and then it cuts out. anyone no why?

[QUOTE=Jason101]ah right - was going to say - those that drum and sing are a rare and talented breed.[/QUOTE]
phil collins

[QUOTE=tallicafan1]ok i have a question for any guitarists in here, i have a jackson ke3 and the volume pott seems to have fu.ked up. it ok until i turn it up to full and then it cuts out. anyone no why?[/QUOTE]

you could, replace the pot? or, perhaps, replace the pot?

Is it ONLY when the pot is in full?

[QUOTE=moaner]phil collins[/QUOTE]

I said TALENTED!



(sorry, I know he does have talent, I'm just not a fan)

[QUOTE=moaner]you could, replace the pot? or, perhaps, replace the pot?

Is it ONLY when the pot is in full?[/QUOTE]


yeh someone told me it was to do with the petentiometer or somet. i'll probly change the pickups anyway so they will be changed anyway

[QUOTE=tallicafan1]yeh someone told me it was to do with the petentiometer or somet. i'll probly change the pickups anyway so they will be changed anyway[/QUOTE]

not neccessarily, unless you're switching from passives to actives. If you're not, just ask the tech who's changing your pickups to stick a new volume pot in while he's in there, I doubt they'd even charge you any labour for it if they're afriendly shop

[QUOTE=tallicafan1]yeh someone told me it was to do with the petentiometer or somet. i'll probly change the pickups anyway so they will be changed anyway[/QUOTE]

by petentiometer you mean potentiometer which is always abbreviated too pot within guitarists

ok thanks moaner

i see i missed introductions like usual, but yeah im jake....im 17 and i do a whole bunch of **** haha.... from playin guitar in my band to recording my band (and a few other bands on occasion) to setting up rock shows around my area, music is my biatch :) afterparties are my specialty though :P

anyways, im going to be setting up a show with 4 bands here in march anyone got any cool ideas or anything they have seen at other shows? i came up with the idea of putting some busted up cars and computers and **** like that near the stages and letting people buy bats to smash the **** out of them during the show for like 5 bucks a bat but thats all i have so far for this show and i dont know if im going to do that one yet for health reasons......but yea ive been known for putting on unique shows which is why im kinda successful at them and im starting to run out of ideas.....anyone got any for me?

I might be taking a leave from MX for a few months, basicly things are fairly fuc[I]k[/I]ed up right now, and it doesn't make for a good poster.

:-(

... hope things turn out all right...

cheers

FK

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]I might be taking a leave from MX for a few months, basicly things are fairly fuc[I]k[/I]ed up right now, and it doesn't make for a good poster.[/QUOTE]
*cries*
I hope things get back to alright for you soon too... sorry to hear that man.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291917[/url]

7..Maybe 8 pages of me kicking the punk forums around.
Nothing defeating a bunch of ostracizing jerks who don't understand the music industry beyond, "omg i fukkin h8 limp bizkit dey r sellouts cuz dey wuz in da pop charts"

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine][url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291917[/url]

7..Maybe 8 pages of me kicking the punk forums around.
Nothing defeating a bunch of ostracizing jerks who don't understand the music industry beyond, "omg i fukkin h8 limp bizkit dey r sellouts cuz dey wuz in da pop charts"[/QUOTE]

I almost got inbolved, until i realised i'd be insulting punk in the punk forum.

I almost posted:

"I find emo an unlistenable* part of punk, my least favourite genre. I still acknowledge the talent that goes into it"

but i stopped myself JIT.


[SIZE=1]*no offence, I doubt you rate metallica or GNR as especially listenable[/SIZE]

I try to stay out of the music genre forums, to avoid getting into arguments based around musical opinions.

[QUOTE=Aes820]I try to stay out of the music genre forums, to avoid getting into arguments based around musical opinions.[/QUOTE]

me too, i only went to that one because of kkk... You certaintly have succeeded, I've "known" you for quite some time and other than knowing its probably metal i have no idea what genre you play. I guess metal only through your amp and guitar choices.

[QUOTE=moaner]me too, i only went to that one because of kkk... You certaintly have succeeded, I've "known" you for quite some time and other than knowing its probably metal i have no idea what genre you play. I guess metal only through your amp and guitar choices.[/QUOTE]
I think I've got an extremely versatile musical taste. I enjoy playing anything; from noodling with metal riffs, Acoustic finger-picking songs to even some classical stuff.

Im in two bands.
The first is a post hardcore style band. With influences from both Punk and Hardcore genres. A bit like Boy Sets Fire, or Strung Out. Loud and hard.

The second is a pop rock band. That band is much more vocal driven, with three kickarse vocalists in the band (me not being one of them :p) we rely on rich vocal harmonies more so than guitar riffs. On a similar wavelength to Split Endz, Counting Crows or Powderfinger.

I play the Mesa gear because I love their tone and their quality. Just because it says Mesa Boogie on the front of it, doesnt mean it needs to be used for metal.

Hey aes, you seen the new range of behirnger sotboxes? Those offer such incredible value? Zoom are gonna go out of business if behringer can offer a multi FX for £22 and a 3 amp modell cab modelling DI box for £30.

Hehe, your new avatar patriotic enough Aes? :thumb:
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By the way (still to Aes)... is one of the bands you're in Manifest? Or are you just hosting that site or something?