[QUOTE=LostInMusic464]Lookin' for some good hats to play metal or rock with. Sabian is my brand of choice, but Paiste is good too. I will settle for Zildjian if I can't find anything from the last two companies.[/QUOTE]

14" AAX Stage Hats. Best allaround pairing Ever

any other suggestions?

14" AA Regular Hats. Maybe The Sizzles as well.

how are the zildjian k/z dyno beat hats? i think justin foley from killswitch uses them and they sound pretty good.
p.s. thanks for the new thread.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]14" AA Regular Hats. Maybe The Sizzles as well.[/QUOTE]

Those are just great all-around hats. But maybe you know some Sabian hats that are a little more "rock-ish"? I don't know their catalogue that well.

Just found a set of Paiste 2002 14" Heavy hats. I can't wait until I get em. Do you think they will be good for rock and metal?

I'm probably gonna order my Sabian XS20 rock ride from midwestpercussion.com. It looks like the only place that carries it under $100. What are the best online stores for cymbals and drum stuff?

You might wanna check [url]www.massmusic.net[/url] or [url]www.musiciansfriend.com[/url].

[QUOTE=LostInMusic464]Just found a set of Paiste 2002 14" Heavy hats. I can't wait until I get em. Do you think they will be good for rock and metal?[/QUOTE]

Yep, should be great for rock.

I was thinking of buying a Paiste 20 inch Rude Ride cymbal. Can someone describe what it sounds like, volume ect.......

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]14" AAX Stage Hats. Best allaround pairing Ever[/QUOTE]
Hell yeah! Got some for Christmas, I can use them for anything. I love them so.

are saluda splashes any good?

k my crashes i plan to get real soon are 16 and 18 aax plosions and im wondering what would be a good ride size of 20 inches along the sabian line that would crash nice along with my 18 that has a nice bell and good enough ping thats versatile.

i certainly wouldnt advise buying those Xplosion crashes as your only 2 crashes. they arent really all that versatile.

as for a ride, AA medium Rides crash nicely.

I posted this as a new thread, but they want me to post it in here. So im lookin for splash cymbal, i guess something to go with my a customs.

yeah A customs are great! and no saluda splashes are terrible, i hate them

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]i certainly wouldnt advise buying those Xplosion crashes as your only 2 crashes. they arent really all that versatile.

as for a ride, AA medium Rides crash nicely.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure? They seem like versatile crashes to me. They're medium-thin, which is a good weight for crashes in my opinion.

the AAX splash.. i dunno if thats the real name.. i think its 10"

[quote]Are you sure? They seem like versatile crashes to me. They're medium-thin, which is a good weight for crashes in my opinion.[/quote]

oh yeah, the weight is perfect, but the sound is far too fast and punchy. suppose you wanted to have some continuous crashing in a groove.....they would not be very good at all.

look into a 16" AAX Stage Crash, and 18" AA Medium Crash.....that is most definatly the most versatile combo in my eyes.

mmm... 16" AAX stage crash... beautiful cymbal... soon to have one of my own:)

i'll probably be looking at an 18" if i can find one :thumb:

Theres one around here... but im not saying anything because it shall be mine:)
Suckerrrrrrr:p

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]oh yeah, the weight is perfect, but the sound is far too fast and punchy. suppose you wanted to have some continuous crashing in a groove.....they would not be very good at all.

look into a 16" AAX Stage Crash, and 18" AA Medium Crash.....that is most definatly the most versatile combo in my eyes.[/QUOTE]

I've used a 16" AAXplosion for that...it works. But yeah, the Stage Crash would be better. Both are excellent crashes.

I just bought 22" K Custom High Definition Ride. Man, it's like one of the most beautiful sounding ride i've ever heard in my life.

Sound Characteristics :-

-Very similar to Old K ride and K Constantinople rides but the overtone is more controlled. (I havent really played an vintage K ride, only read their sound characteristics from a magazine).

-Great stick articulation, it sounds like "tick" rather than "ping" , "tiss" or "ting". (this also depends on the stick and the condition of the tip of the stick).

-Not much overtone, so you still can hear the stick sound nice and clear, unlike K Custom Dry Light Ride, Dark Ride.

-very rapid decay.

Application :- Jazz/Bebop and other styles similar to those. The ride isnt very loud for its size, so it wouldnt be good in loud, unmic'ed live situations.
It is not a versatile ride, IMO it's only good for jazz.

I hope I make sense, and if anyone else owns K Custom High Definition Ride and would like to add anything.. please do so.

Cheerz,

Ivan

Hey, I need a second crash to go with my set. The crash I have right now is a Medium Sabian AA 16". I need a lighter/more high pitched sounding noise for rock, and was wondering what type of cymbals I should look into at the Music Store..

Sounds good Hyper Kid, I really wanna try one of those out.

What ride is used in Crazy In Love by Beyonce cause i love the sound.

[QUOTE=Smurf38]What ride is used in Crazy In Love by Beyonce cause i love the sound.[/QUOTE]

most likely they're not using a drummer... just a synthesizer or drum machine or something.

Bibby, or others. I tried out the 16" AAXplosion crash (again) and the 18" AAX dark crash, i liked the difference in sounds, but i'm still stumped for a ride. I can't seem to find one i love yet. Quite bright. minimal wash, but some wash and nice and pingy.

AA Dry ride would be nice.

could anyone recomend a mini china for me, i am looking to purchase one just to add some variety to my splashs

one of my friends has a 12 inch aax mini china, and its sweeet, i even offered to sell my soul for it, but he wont haha

so any help woudl do on which are best sounding

many will tell your here that Wuhan is unrivaled. quite cheap too. however, if you want some tone too, you would probably end up looking at a bigger name brand of cymbals.

so, my suggestions:

the ever popular 14" wuhan

or my personal pick: the 14" HHX Evolution Mini-Chinese.

hey bobby can you tell me the difference between AA and AAX? I know you told it on the cymbals thread but I don't remember...

AA - small impact hammering. Wide open sound. Perfect for live gigs.

AAX - wide Impact hammering. Incereased control, but sound is a bit more focused and tight. response at all dynamics is much better (i.e - an AAX Metal Cras can still sound fairly good at low volumes). excellent in the studio

thank you, but what do you mean by small and wide impact hammering?

if you look at the hammer marks, you will see that AA's have small hammer marks, and the AAX's have larger Hammer Marks.

im in search of a new crash from any brand. I would like it to be from 17-19" and have it sound musical, but yet be able to cut through a heavy metal band without ringing for 10 seconds. Thanks in advance

Try an 18" A Custom Projection crash. It's thicker than the regular A Custom crash, will have more sustain but still has musical qualities to it.

maybe an AA Medium crash?

I'm looking for a versatile 20 inch ride, preferably around the A Zildjian price range, and not too bright. I hear the ping rides are nice, what do you guys think?