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Sade 12-24-2004 10:41 AM

And for the sake of convorsation-Mars Volta isn't prog. ...in the slightest.

Grateful Undead starring Jerry 12-24-2004 11:37 AM

I'm a member on ProgArchives, and hope to see you all there.

BassasonicMuthaplucka 12-24-2004 12:27 PM

is it hard to register?

Esp Griffyn 12-24-2004 01:00 PM

Well, my brother lsitens to Genesis. And the Mahavisnu Orchestra. And a few other bands. like Neurosis and Today Is The Day, who are about as apocalyptic as prog gets.

neal_672 12-24-2004 01:02 PM

[QUOTE=Sade]And for the sake of convorsation-Mars Volta isn't prog. ...in the slightest.[/QUOTE]

All depends on your definition. It certainly holds all the hallmarks of prog in my opinion, and i know many many people in the alt/indie forum who consider them prog also... But at the end of the day it's all open to debate i guess...

Duncster 12-24-2004 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=Sade]And for the sake of convorsation-Mars Volta isn't prog. ...in the slightest.[/QUOTE]
There new CD is haha... 30 minute song. One of the greatest songs ever.
Edit: To BV- Yeah MR bungle is messed. Like every song belong to a different genre :D
I especially like that song by them "sober" I think thats whats its called..

Esp Griffyn 12-24-2004 01:10 PM

Listening to Starship Trooper right now! Meshuggah and Pig Destroyer would probably like to be seen as "prog metal" now, because they have both just released long songs [I by Meshuggah and natasha by PD]. So I guess they would say they were prog, but I would suggest that its simply to drum up a bit of interest.

twopelu 12-24-2004 01:59 PM

If you all know that much about prog stuff...why dont you post an article about it in the "How to play X genre" Thread?

Here: [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274887&highlight=genre[/url]

(I wanted to write something about it but I was too tired after writing some of those articles)

Come on guys. Prog-rock and Prog-Metal to be done.

(read some of the articles already there if you have the time)

bassaholica2004 12-24-2004 02:41 PM

I'm actually in a sorta Progressive Death Metal band right now called Artificial Eternity. We have the low vocals and everything, but the music is very technical and different than what you would expect from DM. Also, I'm one of the only bassists I know in DM that uses a 6 string :D. Currently our longest song is a 11 minute thrash song called Iron Fist. The end is an amazingly technical part going into a 2 minute guitar solo, and then into a mini bass solo. I wish we could get some of our stuff online, but we can't record it yet.

ToastedPlunger 12-24-2004 03:52 PM

I saw Rush in Milwaukee over the summer. Great show. For being around fifty years old those guys can play. The show was almost three hours long and they didn't seem to get tired.

I really would have liked to see King Crimson on one of their more recent tours but I never got the chance to. My dream Crimson show would be to see them play with John Wetton. I mean Tony Levin is great but something about Wetton just gets me.

neal_672 12-24-2004 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=DuncTheToolaphile]There new CD is haha... 30 minute song. One of the greatest songs ever.
[/QUOTE]

Wait! Their new album is out!? Or is this just in the US or something?! Because i haven't seen it here!

spankyoplank 12-24-2004 04:04 PM

I love rush, i can't say i'm a huge progger cos i don't know much, but i like what i've heard. Rush, Yes and stuff like that, a lot of the best bass is by proggers Geddy Lee, Chris Squire and stuff like that.

Mitchell Royce 12-24-2004 04:05 PM

Neal, the new songs are on Kazaa for the Mars Volta album which is supposed to come out in march. There's a lot of fakes though, so be careful.

BassasonicMuthaplucka 12-24-2004 04:53 PM

I strongly reccomend listening to Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, or The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway by Genesis, as Mike Rutherford is an excellent bassist.

Tony Levin isn't even playing with KC anymore (its now Fripp, Trey Gunn, Adrian Belew and Pat Massoletto). Wetton was with Uriah Heep for a long time, so I recommend them if you have a Wetton fetish. Greg Lake of ELP was KC's first bassist/lead singer. Check out 21st Century Schizoid Man for starters, as it had a great bassline.

albinoblacksheep 12-24-2004 05:34 PM

3 Prog.Bands I really dig are Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater and Symphony X.

BassasonicMuthaplucka 12-24-2004 07:07 PM

p.s. toast my KC picture in my avatar was almost the Larks' Tongue cover as well

Low-B-Mundy 12-27-2004 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=albinoblacksheep]3 Prog.Bands I really dig are Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater and Symphony X.[/QUOTE]

Just got my first Porcupine Tree CD last week .......... not bad ....still trying to get into the vocals. :thumb:

neal_672 12-27-2004 05:29 PM

[QUOTE=Mitchell Royce]Neal, the new songs are on Kazaa for the Mars Volta album which is supposed to come out in march. There's a lot of fakes though, so be careful.[/QUOTE]

Hmmmmmmm i don't like kazaa, i'll just wait until March for it...

Liberphile 12-27-2004 05:46 PM

I think other things definitive of prog rock are the track lengths. Other than changing time signatures, changing keys often and all the other stuff typical of prog rock.

stuff that I didn't see mentioned that I dig---- Porcupine Tree ::edit:: nevermind it was clearly mentioned
TOOL (they are definately prog)
The Beatles (abbey road is a prog album)
Peter gabriel
some radiohead is prog(paranoid android is at least)

stuffed that was mentioned that I do like- King crimson (every line up)
Rush
Floyd (is definately prog)
primus, flying frog brigade, c2b3
Yes
dream theatre, liquid tension
Mr. Bungle, Secret chiefs 3 (bungle - patton)
LOVE LOVE LOVE OPETH LOVE LOVE


And while I love sigur ros, i must argue that they aren't very progressive at all. THey are more like shoegaze, a genre that is very slow but, ethereal and very trancey and repetive yet layered.

Lucretia 12-27-2004 07:03 PM

I've seen Rush, Jethro Tull nearly every year for about 8 years (they play Cropredy folk festival regularly, being kinda prog-folk).

I've heard Muse been described as prog rock... and have seen them about 3 times :D...

I also listen A Perfect Circle/Tool, Coheed and Cambria, Floyd, Brazil, Porcupine Tree, Peter Gabriel, early Genesis, ELO, the Mars Volta...

Lucretia 12-27-2004 07:04 PM

Oh yeah Sigur Ros are great, I wouldn't describe them as prog tho...

Liberphile 12-28-2004 12:04 AM

i've seen tull twice and i'm only 21. not, that I think i'm hot Sh][T or anythin.

punkjazz 12-28-2004 12:06 AM

Under the definition used here, I would say The Doors could be classified as prog. The End would the best song to prove such argument with its 11-12 min running time and extensive instrumental sections. I love that band so much! What do you think about them?

Liberphile 12-28-2004 12:15 AM

i'll buy that. I also, think that the song "when the musics over" is also, kind of proggy, with lulls and stuff. That song is 10 min 57 sec.
also, their jam sessions where jim would read poetry over it could get kind of proggy. Like the last 20 minutes of "absolutely live" is I think from one show but, i'm not sure if not it was edited together really well to sound proggressive even.
so Lucretia and I are the only progheads who mentioned TOOL? come to the darkside man...

Liberphile 12-28-2004 12:17 AM

He new bassist for them Trey gunn is amazing. He plays this bass that has 8 strings on it, and half of the neck is fretted and the other half is unfretted. SO, 4 strings rest on a fretted part and 4 other strings right beside them sit on an unfretted part. It looks like a normal 8 stringed bass from far away but, up close you can see it. Anyways, the guy is amazing. He can also kind of play a fretless bass on his lap kind of like a steel guitar, but, with a fretless. and it sounds beautiful.
gotta check out eyes wide open.

punkjazz 12-28-2004 12:36 AM

Liberphile
What a coincidence, I was listening to that esact song and thinking the same thing you were wrote when I read your post.

BassasonicMuthaplucka 12-28-2004 04:26 PM

Oh, good. I'm not alone in thinking that the Doors are prog.

I would love to see Tull live.

Does anyone consider Funkadelic, especially on concept albums like "One Nation Under a Groove" or "The Electric Spanking Of War Babies" (which is the best title ever) to be prog as well as funk?

i just picked up "The Dixie Dregs Live" from my library and they kick ***.

Does anyone listen to King's X, if so, what do they sound like.

Low-B-Mundy 12-29-2004 06:06 PM

I'd like to recommend Neal Morse. He used to be with Spock's Beard but now he's gone solo.

When he was with Spock's Beard “Snow” is f****** outstanding and now that he's solo “Testimony” is an amazing piece of prog work.

His work now is “Christen Prog” and that’s not my bag but the musicianship well makes up for that .... But hay, that might be your thing. :thumb:

Alex 12-29-2004 06:24 PM

RUSH!!!!, and YES

MNbassist78 12-29-2004 07:41 PM

I saw Dream Theater in September when they were touring with Yes, DT rocks but they really only played their softer songs and Steam of Consciousness. It was still awsome. Rush and Pink Floyd rule too!!!

Liberphile 12-29-2004 08:19 PM

favourite prog albums??

Yes- close to the edge
dream theatre- train of thought ( I really need to get more dream theatre)
Rush- 2112
King Crimson- larkes tounges in aspic and in the court of the krimson king
radiohead- o.k. computer (a masterpiece to me) i think it can be argued that dis is prog
Tool- Undertow, aenima and lateralus
OPeth- blackwater park (omg)
Mr. Bungle - California
Floyds- the wall is prolly there most progish album

Grateful Undead starring Jerry 12-29-2004 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=BassasonicMuthaplucka]p.s. toast my KC picture in my avatar was almost the Larks' Tongue cover as well[/QUOTE]Radiolaria here, and you?

Random_Hero_Guy_ 12-29-2004 10:33 PM

Prog. metal/rock is the shiit.

Left Shoe 12-29-2004 10:38 PM

dream theater count?

mars volta
mindless self indulgence
rush
yes

iceman3019 12-30-2004 12:18 AM

i like dream theater, rush, king crimson, liquid tension experiment, primus, (the) jelly jam, platypus, pink floyd, tool, and lots of solo efforts of assorted artists (i.e. derek sherinian). i guess i could be a progressive fan . . .

twopelu 12-30-2004 04:19 AM

My fav prog bands are Rush, Liquid tension experiment, Yes and Dream Theater.

Ok, also Pink Floyd, I cant forget them!

Two best opera-rock albums:

- Dream Theater, Scenes from a memory

- Pink Floyd, The Wall

lets say your favourite opera-rock albums... ;)

cAPS_lOCK 12-30-2004 05:50 AM

I play in a prog rock/pop band. Say what you want about prog, but it's really fun to play with all awesome time signatur changes and cool rythms. In our music, at least. :p

As a result, I listen a lot to prog too. Because I don't like metal really much, I'm more into the softer bands, like Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, The Flower Kings, and so on. Though I still dig Dream Theater. ;)

I'm not really into the older prog stuff, except The Beatles, though I really like Pink Floyd and the like when I get a chance to hear it.

My favorite prog album is Spock's Beard's "Snow". It's simply amazing.

BassasonicMuthaplucka 12-31-2004 09:43 AM

Favorite Rock Operas/Concept Album

The Romantic Warrior: Return To Forever
Thick as A Brick and Aqualung by Tull
Uncle Meat and Joe's Garage by Frank Zappa
Most Pink Floyd
2112
Scenes From A Memory
De-Loused In The Comatorium: the Mars Volta

BassasonicMuthaplucka 12-22-2005 08:39 PM

I decided to drag this up from eons ago, before I left MX.

Thanks for posting!

Some things that I said earlier may not have been as accurate as they actually are. If you have progressive rock questions, I'm sure a prog fan will help you out.

-Muthaplucker

tim_commerfordism 12-22-2005 08:57 PM

ah ok.

Damn i thought quatre was back!!

/saw his post count :upset:


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