I love it when I hear people talk about time sigs then do something like 3/4 3/4 then 2/4 (3 bars 3 sigs sounds tricky) but it still adds up to 8 and sounds..well....8/4 lol

[QUOTE=ThePanicInNeedlePark]I love it when I hear people talk about time sigs then do something like 3/4 3/4 then 2/4 (3 bars 3 sigs sounds tricky) but it still adds up to 8 and sounds..well....8/4 lol[/QUOTE]

True.

One day I will make a 32/16 catchy song.

Ron Jarzombek - Headache And A 64th
65/64 time in the first bit.. it sounds so close to 4/4, but there's just that little bit extra at the end of the bar. after that.. who knows... it's mental, or Spastic if you like..

Also.. Spiral Architect, any song. But Insect has a bit at the end that adds up to 31/8.
[url]http://www.spiralarchitect.com/clips/insect.mp3[/url]

For something simpler and more natural sounding... Soundgarden is a good choice.

[QUOTE=DeathHawk]Jazz Fusion>>>all[/QUOTE]

123

[u]3 3/4[/u]
_ 4


Thats "three and three-fourths over four" yes.

rope ends by pain of salvation... very wierd

[QUOTE=deathbeforedisco]rope ends by pain of salvation... very wierd[/QUOTE]

indeed

john petrucci has 28/4 in beyond this life, thats not wierd its just ****ing fast

Actually the time signature has nothing to do with the tempo. 28/4 is not inherently faster than 4/4 or anything else.

[QUOTE=Daywalker]Meshuggah - Rational Gaze

...nuff said.[/QUOTE]


Yup :thumb:

Dillinger is crazy **** to play. i dont even wanna dabble in the theory behind it

[QUOTE=Raiven]1/1?

One whole note per bar... Isn't that 4/4?[/QUOTE]not at all. a whole note doesn't have any set number of beats. In 1/1 it has one beat. In 4/4 it has four. 1/1 is the same thing as 1/2 and 1/4 and 1/64 just written differently.

[QUOTE=ThePanicInNeedlePark]how is it basically 3/4, its not 3/4 at all![/QUOTE]I'm just guessing here but if the measures came in sets of three then it could sound like 3/4. Or this guy might have no idea what he's talking about.


In a time signature the bottom note tells you what type of note gets one beat. The top note tells you how many there are.
Then there are special ones where sets of three of the bottom number get one beat. Like 6/8 has two beats (two sets of 3 eighth notes). 8/8 is sometimes used as three beats. Two beats being 3 eighth notes and one being 2.

I have a thing for changing time signatures, and the drummer hates me for it.

[QUOTE=ventura]4/4 will forever elude me.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

mars volta pretty much uses 6/4 or something in most of their songs, and also 15/9 i think or something i dunno

what the hell is a 15/9?

Most of these time signatures that were suggested here probably don't exist and never have. 25/32? Is that even in a song, or an electronic drum beat experiment?

Guys like DEP and Meshuggah don't seem to be using outrageous time signatures to me, they just change it often in a song to throw people off.

[size=6]DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN[/size]

[QUOTE=ZEROthirtythree]Mahavishnu Orchestra - Celestial terrestrial commuter

19/8 I believe.[/QUOTE]

Have you got that 6/8 worked out yet? :p

[QUOTE=blueyxd]Ron Jarzombek - Headache And A 64th
65/64 time in the first bit.. it sounds so close to 4/4, but there's just that little bit extra at the end of the bar. after that.. who knows... it's mental, or Spastic if you like..
[/QUOTE]

There's a measure of 1/64 in there too, I think.

Meshuggah-Destroy, Erase, Improve (pretty cool drumming, for me that is)
Mr.Bungle-second album, I forgot the name. Anyways the second or third song has bass and sax playing note for note, when shred riffage comes in with off tempo drums. It's very interesting.

[QUOTE=DeathHawk]The top number is the NUMBER of notes

The bottom is the TYPE of notes

So 5/4 would be 5 quarter notes.[/QUOTE]

thats right only to the extent that the bottom number is 4. It gets harder to read or understand when it changes to say an 8 or 16.

but i believe main verse of MOP was written in 4/4 and 13/16.

I still think this Jazz group > all of Meshuggah and Dellinger with their 3 +3/4 / 4

Essentially its 15/16, but the quarter note gets the beat. Its just about the hardest thing I've ever counted.

blood brothers

Sikth has some pretty unusual time signatures. well it sounds like it anyway

[QUOTE=Bartender]There's a measure of 1/64 in there too, I think.[/QUOTE]
Actually, thats what he said, 65/64 would be the same as 4/4 and 1/64. Ron Jarzombek is pretty original.

Also, it often depends on the breaks, fx Spastic Ink can play a simple 4/4 but play it in a way that completely throws you off. I have even composed something in 17/16 that [I]doesn't[/I] sound weird.

Anyways,

Meshuggah:
New Millenium Cyanide Christ
I
the interlude in Rational Gaze
...

Spiral Architect:
(Cloud Constructor)
Insect
Spinning
Fountainhead

Metallica:
Master of Puppets :rolleyes:

Dillinger Escape Plan,

[QUOTE=Mardy]Actually, thats what he said, 65/64 would be the same as 4/4 and 1/64. Ron Jarzombek is pretty original.
[/QUOTE]

Oh, okay.

[QUOTE=ColonelSanderz]Led Zeppelin The Ocean -15/8 I think[/QUOTE]
Nah it's a bar of 4, then a bar of 7/8. Its a fairly common odd time sig. 7/8 and 9/8 are some of the more common odd times.

[QUOTE=metal_milita]thats right only to the extent that the bottom number is 4. It gets harder to read or understand when it changes to say an 8 or 16.

but i believe main verse of MOP was written in 4/4 and 13/16.[/QUOTE]

MOP? As in Master of Puppets? That's 4/4 and 5/8, no 13/16. :lol:

Edit: although, if you want to write the barlines rather oddly, you could combine the two measures and make it 8+5, 13/8...but it's definetly not a /16 signature at that tempo.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]MOP? As in Master of Puppets? That's 4/4 and 5/8, no 13/16. :lol:[/QUOTE]

:lol:

i heard that deep purple: highway star goes into 15/8's i dont know if thats hard but it sounds wierd

Planet X. Virgil Donati (the drummer) plays like 17/32 or 7/16. It really not easy.

[QUOTE=the thing that should never be]Nah it's a bar of 4, then a bar of 7/8. Its a fairly common odd time sig. 7/8 and 9/8 are some of the more common odd times.[/QUOTE]

Well actually 4/4+7/8= 15/8
But, I guess you wouldn't write it like that

Well, I doubt they really thought about whether it was 4/4 followed by 7/8, or just 15/8. They are the same thing. Although, it does seem to sound like 2 seperate bars because the 2 parts of the riff don't sound anything alike so there's no sense putting it in the same bar.

RUSH - YYZ ...um not sure of the timing but it changes alot and its nuts
Jimmy Swift Band - Two Hands On the Wheel ...11/4 its fun tho!

[QUOTE=Vaelroth]123

[u]3 3/4[/u]
_ 4


Thats "three and three-fourths over four" yes.[/QUOTE]

That better be a joke. Because it can only be expressed in one fraction, and in this case it would be 15/16.

Actually, most of Yyz is in 4/4.

Meshuggah - Neurotica, it has 15/16, 19/16, 21/16 and a few other pretty odd time signatures.

[QUOTE=Malakian Worshipper]mars volta pretty much uses 6/4 or something in most of their songs, and also 15/9 i think or something i dunno[/QUOTE]

yeah but the mars volta suck.

Mars volta use 3/4 almost all the time.

I think a lot of people are confusing time signatures with the PACE of the songs.

4/4 can be reallllyy slow, or shredding fast.

You can't have 15/9 time. The 9 isn't possible. It's either 2,4,8,12,16,32. I believe that's it. Tempo is what chooses how fast or slow a song is, not time signature.

If memory serves, then Meshuggah's "Rational Gaze" is actually in 4/4. If you listen to it, listen to the cymbals, as they keep a steady beat the whole time. They just play really odd rhythms within 4/4.