[QUOTE=Josiah]Haha Berklee might have dorms now. You have to rent an apt or such nearby. Either way, schools charge for using dorms. I'm also positive Berklee does not have their own cafeteria so you're on your own for food.

Most of these type schools are going to run you up a nice bill. That's why they have loans.

"I want to go to a school with frendly teachers to become a pro drummer and nothing else(no History lesson,maths or other musical instruments)."

Don't go to Berklee School of Music then. Look into places like PIT or The Collective.[/QUOTE]

Berklee has their own cafeteria, I've been in it last year. Unless they've changed it since.

Ah I didn't know that, I musta missed it when I was there.

Hmm...Does anyone know anything about drum tech in London. I wanted to go take the master performance course out there someday once i better my skills through college. Any info...???

Josiah, what's the requirements of going to PIT? Do they have their own dorms? What about equipment? Mind giving me a link to their site?

mi.edu

They don't have their own dorms. Requirenments to get in.. being able to play decently well. Requirenments to survive... well... you'll have to find out.

1. It's Berkl[u]EE[/u]. Berkeley is a UC school in San Francisco.

2. Whoever said Berklee is big was wrong. It's a TINY school.

3. There are small residence halls at Berklee, as well as apartments that you can rent nearby the school.

4. Berklee isn't a drumming school. If all you want to do is become a professional drummer, don't go to Berklee... you will end up dropping out and you'll be ruined. Go to a percussion school.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Yeah, but...

At a school dedicated to percussion, you're alot more likely to be doing things that are actually going to help you, as opposed to just a general music program with an emphasis on percussion. Go to full-time University and you'll be doing mostly Mallet and Marimba work, with minimal set-time. If that's your thing, then go for it...but if you want to be the next Portnoy or whatever the hell, you're probably going to be better off going to a more focused program.

.[/QUOTE]

You should think about what comes out of your head man. Let's see where did Mike Portnoy, a great ALL AROUND drummer, go to school.......mmmmm...
maybe Berklee. Yeah everyone if you want to be the next Mike Portnoy don't go where he went to learn percussion go somewhere else.

[QUOTE=sdmfinada]You should think about what comes out of your head man. Let's see where did Mike Portnoy, a great ALL AROUND drummer, go to school.......mmmmm...
maybe Berklee. Yeah everyone if you want to be the next Mike Portnoy don't go where he went to learn percussion go somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

That's the most retarded thing. No wonder berklee's rap is getting worse and worse, it has idiots like this to vouch for them.

All around drummer I don't know about, have you ever heard the guy try to swing? It's frightening.


Berklee is cold... I like my warmth. I also here it's in a fairly rough neighbor hood.

Here you go

[url]http://www.berklee.edu/pdf/tuition/tuition.pdf[/url]

**** expensive if you ask me.

Here is Julliard

Tuition, Fees, and Expenses


Student Budget
The estimated budget for a Juilliard student for the nine-month academic year 2004-05 is calculated as follows:
Tuition $22,850
Room and Board (residence hall and meal plan)
Double Room 9,030
Single Room 11,270
Subtotals
Double Room 31,880
Single Room 34,120
Books, Supplies, Personal Expenses 2,500
Totals
Double Room $34,380
Single Room $36,620

My band once got a guitarist who was studying a berklee... he was so good we moved him to vocals... but even that didnt help since his voice had no sense of tone either...

Listen to Josiah and Carn, they know what they're talking about. Berklee doesnt improve musicians, Either you're really good when you get in and you stay that way... or otherwise you get what happened in my band's case...

Berklee is very pricey.. considering half the classes are just normal Univeristy classses.. it's VERY pricey.

Go PIT, that's what I want to do.

I'm going to the Berklee summer camp in L.A., it's for three days and there are a bunch of classes that everybody takes, a few ensembles that you get placed in, and jam sessions every night. I'll tell you guys how it goes when it's over (it's not for another month or so).

[QUOTE=FuzzyDrummer]Go PIT, that's what I want to do.[/QUOTE]

I want to do that too... again though, I had so much fun the first time.


Brian do you know where the summer camp is held?

An older member of these forums did a Berklee summer camp that was at the school.

Yeah, it's held at Cal State Fullerton, a Berklee off-shoot.

Haha.. I have many friends that attend CSUF

You must live very close to me...

I live between San Diego and L.A.

Haha now there's a small chunk of land!

I'm Orange, just a few mins down the freeway from CSUF actually.

[QUOTE=Bryan Blakey]Berklee is a Jazz and Rock oriented college, it's main focus being Jazz. The focus isn't on playing really, but rather composing and theory. If you want to go to a college to learn how to play drums really good, Berklee isn't for you.

I plan to go to Berklee with Trombone as my primary instrument. Jazz is my life, and that's why I'm excited to attend this college.[/QUOTE]

I attended Berklee in 93/94. I can say from my experience there, that your focus as to playing verses composing, is totally up to you depending on your major. If you're a performance major your 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th semesters, you're required to study with two different teachers each week on your instrument of choice. Pluss you have to take performance ear training which is quite a bit different that the sight singing you do in the first four ear training classes. Pluss if you're there on scholarship like I was, you're required to perform in the project bands who perform and record student compositions. The type of project band you end up playing with is directly related to how long you've been at the school, and your skills on the instrument.

I know, it takes determination to keep going after the first four semesters. most do drop out before then like I did. And there are allot of theory classes you have to take at that time. But if you make past that point, it's all playing if you're a performance major.

[QUOTE=metallas]I want to become a really good drummer.I am playing drums for 4 years.My drums tutor says that I am better than others who are playing for 4 years too.Anyway I want to go to a school with frendly teachers to become a pro drummer and nothing else(no History lesson,maths or other musical instruments).
If I go to a shool like berkley, am I supposed to stay,eat in the university or I will have to rent a house nearby?
Suggest something that fits my needs(not very expensive schools because I am not a millioner)
If anyone knows any links for music schools, tell me.[/QUOTE]

Most of the jokers who replied to you have never attended Berklee, and don't know what their talking about. While I was attending They did have a huge cafateria, and if you where under the age of 21 you where required to live in the dorms. After that yo0u can live anywhere you want.

[QUOTE=Bryan Blakey]1. It's Berkl[u]EE[/u]. Berkeley is a UC school in San Francisco.

2. Whoever said Berklee is big was wrong. It's a TINY school.

3. There are small residence halls at Berklee, as well as apartments that you can rent nearby the school.

4. Berklee isn't a drumming school. If all you want to do is become a professional drummer, don't go to Berklee... you will end up dropping out and you'll be ruined. Go to a percussion school.[/QUOTE]

Berklee might be small compared to a University like North Texas State. But that's because Berklee is a music school and nothing else. If you compare Berklee to other schools who only teach music, Berklee is the biggest one in the world.

[QUOTE=Josiah]Berklee is very pricey.. considering half the classes are just normal Univeristy classses.. it's VERY pricey.[/QUOTE]

Berklee classes are not normal University classes. If you compare The Harmony classes I took at Berklee it's a whole different world that the classical theory you'd take at a normal university. Then again I tested into higher leavels of classes my first semester. I didn't have to start out relearning my modes and scales because I already studied that stuff in AP music in high school.

If you now no theory at all you may want to go to a regular university for a while and then transfer.

Up here in Canada, one of the top schools with regards to percussion and musical study in general is Humber. Humber has one of the best music programs in North America.

[url]http://www.humber.ca/[/url]

I've noticed that there's allot of guys saying "I heard from a friend," or, "I know someone who went to Berklee." There are only a few coments from people who actually attended Berklee.

I attended in 93/94 and I can definitely say I'm glad I went. And I plan to return in a year and a half to finish. I'm not a drummer though I'm a sax player. I don't know about the drum teachers, but I know that some of the best jazz educators around are the sax teachers at Berklee.

If you're serious about finding the right music school, I sugest you audition for scholarship at several top schools. While I was at Berklee I had a pretty hefty scholarship and I knew if they where willing to cover that much of my tuition I would probably get the chance to study with the best teachers. It also gave me the confidence that I had a good chance of making it in the music business. The music business is very unstable and only the best survive for any length of time. If they won't give you a decent scholarship, choose another carear.

The style of music you preffer to play will also make a big difference as to whether or not you're waisting your time. People think it's a jazz/rock school, but most of the rockers I knew there hated it. It's the hard core jazz heads that had the most fun. And we all know music is supposed to be fun.

I also seem to remember that the ones who had the most complaints about the school, and said they didn't get anything out of it, where the poorest musicians. If you get accepted and you still don't know your modes for example, you're going to be taking some pretty basic classes. At the very least, study the Jamie Abersold scale sylabus before you go, even if you're a drummer. And make sure you know the names of all the modes of the major scale. Find out what II/V7's are and how their used. Try and get the easy stuff out of the way. If you do that you won't be waisting your time. Be prepared.

Well it's official I have been accepted. I am very scared this thread scares me to the point that I want to change my mind and look elsewhere. I love Mike Portnoy and I want to be able to play multiple styles well. I am not sure if i went to berklee that I would be making enough to repay all the loans I will owe. Does anybody know about job outlook. anyways, anyone have any thoughts about my acceptance? to me it looks like a person could go there and be totally emersed into percussion or any kind of music for that matter and just take off with it if they have an open mind and dedicate their time to learning new things!

...so anybody have any advice or input???

Haha if you're that insecure that you need people on here to advise you on a huge decision like spending 30 grand a year on berklee tuition... I don't know what to tell you.

well i was just looking for some advice. I don't know if I will make it there or not it is too expensive. hey I see your a danny carey fan. where and how the hell did he get so good?

[QUOTE]where and how the hell did he get so good?[/QUOTE] You practice. No school will MAKE you better. They will only give you resources.

That being said I sent in my audition tape to PIT today.

Awesome, good luck man. Out of curiosity, how much is tuition at PIT compared to Berklee and the like?

[QUOTE=Skin Beater]Awesome, good luck man. Out of curiosity, how much is tuition at PIT compared to Berklee and the like?[/QUOTE]It is cheaper than Berklee

Im not sure the exact price.

Im looking into getting some free money right now to cut off what I have to pay.

Is it really worth it to go to a school just for percussion? I really want a career in drumming.. But being in a successful band is like a one-in-a-million chance, and studio drumming can be an iffy job. What other careers are there in drumming, and would it really be worth it ovr a traditional 4 year college? :(

well guys. I am really looking at L.A. Music Academy, damn it sounds good and it is about 12,000 dollars for about 40 weeks. A girl from there returned my call and I talked to her for like 40 minutes, man they have some damn good instructors and it sounds like a really cool place to go. Any body know much about the L.A. Music Academy?

i agree with philosopher. if your going to play in a band, or do anything percusion related besides session work thats already planned for you, it helps to go to a college that teaches some kind of music theory, more than just percussion.

so you can play a polyrhythm 3:7 at 160bpm's, but can you add a feel to the music your contributing to that could push you over the edge of club player to signed [I]musician[/I] in a band and not just someone who can hit things with good technique

[quote=Josiah]Haha Berklee might have dorms now. You have to rent an apt or such nearby. Either way, schools charge for using dorms. I'm also positive Berklee does not have their own cafeteria so you're on your own for food.

Most of these type schools are going to run you up a nice bill. That's why they have loans.

"I want to go to a school with frendly teachers to become a pro drummer and nothing else(no History lesson,maths or other musical instruments)."

Don't go to Berklee School of Music then. Look into places like PIT or The Collective.[/quote]
They have dorms and a cafeteria there, but yeah, the education doesn't seem too great. I went to a summer program, and it was...iffy.

id like to go to PIT but im not good enough

Now what do you actually do at these drum college's...I am considering going to college for drums..Also any good ones in NY??

I wanted to at least hit their 5-week summer program, but I missed the cut off date cuz i'm like five grand short...

I'll be auditioning at Berklee next year during the winter. On trumpet, that is. I'm sure I won't ever be doing anything professionally with drums

Berklee is one of the best places to study. They have the best facilities by far. You will get better connections there by far when compared to other schools.

I've been attending Berklee for the last 2 years. I've also looked at other schools, and most of them have nothing on it.

If anyone wants honest answers regarding Berklee shoot out a question. Don't rely on people that know friends, heard from some other person, or the rumor mill.