[QUOTE=mactabilis]I can actually speak and sing while grunting... I've practiced it a lot. I feel like a complete dumbass for not realizing that's what I want. I just was always assuming I was doing it wrong.[/QUOTE]


yea its the same but you have to open up and hold support that note, where as you dont support much when in a speaking voice. but yea, its the same feel at least. this stuff isnt much science. just practice. keep at it.

I know what you mean about mucous merkaba. Woke up the other morning and it was some kinda slime factory in my mouth.

[QUOTE=Emery_Walls]Hi Merkaba-1

I have another question, when you scream while saying some words like in the song [B]WALLS BY EMERY [/B] how is this done? from what i've heard is it has to have more rasp and needs a lower note then a high pitch scream, and if you could help me out that would be cool.[/QUOTE]

Its a falsetto scream. thats it. hes just screaming while saying something. thats what i was saying, you should have the same feel as if youre singing that note. so practice singing that note in falsetto like youre in an opera. sing the words he's saying without the rasp first. you have to be able to make the notes first. if you can, then you add rasp. then you can do it at the same time.
of course breath support is vital with something like this.

Screaming "Emery - Walls" kills your whole diaphragm if you're as bad at breathing as i am - it's like running 20 short sprints. I think i'll practice breathing some more...

[QUOTE=shortstorieswithtragicendings]Screaming "Emery - Walls" kills your whole diaphragm if you're as bad at breathing as i am - it's like running 20 short sprints. I think i'll practice breathing some more...[/QUOTE]
yea ...hehe. you should then.

but many people dont hold that pressure behind the cords. they'll open up and the air just flows right out. you should be holding like a grunt feel. but dont grunt. but thats the way the pressure should hold againts the cords.

its more about learning how to properly dam that air pressure while activating the cords. so youre probably not as bad off as you think. so think grunt, just dont grunt. sing! and relax that throat.

nice scream man.. **** i envy you

who?
 

[QUOTE=Horatiu]nice scream man.. **** i envy you[/QUOTE]

dude who's scream are you talking about?

no steve not yours :lol:

(tumbleweed rolls by)

[QUOTE=Winter-seed...AKA b&h]no steve not yours :lol:

(tumbleweed rolls by)[/QUOTE]

Hey ALEX, arent i allowed to asume it was me, mate?

hahahahah

NO! u know how i feel about you assuming




PS: sign onto msn u fook

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]edt: hot, high level sounding was not a complement. though it does sound good. i was meaning the input was high. just thought i should clarify just incase you read it the other way.[/QUOTE]

:naughty: i thought u were callin me hot

nah jks i gathered that u ment it was high output

My computer wont open Merkaba's sound things. Windows media player comes up and says it cannot be opened? What the fvck? Any help would be appreciated.

I will be happy to do voice over work for you as well as drum tracks...check out my voice and drums at my site.

[url]http://www.TartarDrumStudios.com[/url]

I would flame you advertising that here...but youre a pretty **** good drummer

Thanks dude you are cool!!!! :thumb:

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]I would flame you advertising that here...but youre a pretty **** good drummer[/QUOTE]

Jesus man...those screams were pretty scary just alone like that...

[QUOTE=Burningwater]Jesus man...those screams were pretty scary just alone like that...[/QUOTE]
:thumb:

Just a quick question, when you were doing those falsetto screams, basically all you were doing is saying hey and then applying the chest pressure, and then doing the throat thing?

Could you elaborate what you're doing with your throat? Like i think i have the idea but i just wanna make sure im doing it right.

Heres the DL on me, a friend of mine wants to start a screamo band, and i've always wanted to know how to scream, he gave me an offer to be the singer so i wanted to take a stab at it.

[QUOTE=blahr]Just a quick question, when you were doing those falsetto screams, basically all you were doing is saying hey and then applying the chest pressure, and then doing the throat thing?

Could you elaborate what you're doing with your throat? Like i think i have the idea but i just wanna make sure im doing it right.

Heres the DL on me, a friend of mine wants to start a screamo band, and i've always wanted to know how to scream, he gave me an offer to be the singer so i wanted to take a stab at it.[/QUOTE]

actually nevermind, i messed around for a little while and i got it i think :D!! You've made my day i love you man.

I feel like I'm going to make a normal high pitched note but i use a lot of the back of my throat. Try to whisper and sing the note at the same time, with the gut pressure, i wouldnt feel comfortable saying chest pressure. For a head or chest voice note, i apply extra pressure and use the back of the throat, Like if you were saying "annnnk" as in wrong answer. You would just have to relax the throat more and form the note.

what the hell

Merkaba, those screams are awesome.

hey merkaba, i have a scream of mine recorded but i don't have anywhere to place it so you can download it, could you email me or something and i'll send it in an attachment so you can give me some tips?

my email is [email]bignath87@hotmail.com[/email]

Thanks in advance :)

also another question... i was in my car screaming my heart out (or atleast tryign to) When i was screaming i felt a tickling sensation in my throat, am i supposed to feel that?

hey merkaba, do u think u can post ur screams again?

did the link not work?

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]did the link not work?[/QUOTE]
The link to your site gives me a Page Cannot Be Displayed screen, and the screams you posted before are "corrupt files"

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/merkabastarmusic.htm[/url]

This is the link that works which is the one i usually refer too. I had put up some sample songs but yea they got ****ed up...I thought i had erased that thread.

new here!
 

hey ive been following the merkaba chronicles quite well and had a couple questions.
- Gerard Way from my chemical romance, is his vocals just god givin like that or is it something he is doing. its like a raspy vibrato. i can't tell if thats just his voice or if its a technique
- what is the BEST way to cut back mucus ----ex. your doin a gig in an hour and have a sht ton of mucus coating your vocal cords............?
- have you heard of anyone falsettoing straight into a vibrato without a breath or rest just straight through?

1. Dont know the guy
2. I covered this a zillion times and its in my voicehelp hotline as a subject. The first thing to know is why you have the mucus. If you have a show in an hour thats not much you can do except keep warming up. I would say eat some fruit that has potassium in it, like a bananna, and some O.j. And drink some water. Actually if it were me I would drink a big glass of o.j. and two banannas about three hours before the show...every show....ideally. Not for the mucus, but so you have electrolytes. This allows you to keep your water balanced. Noone needs help getting sodium. We know that.
3. Vibrato is just a shaking...vibration....So I'm not sure what you're referring to. A falsetto note...then start vibrato without stopping. Rather simple if this is what youre referring to.

Wow your speaking voice sounds really ****ed up. Did you used to sound like that before you started screaming?

Gerard Way uses horrible technique, his voice is fu[b][i][/b][/i]cked up from it. I know this because I did the same thing and my voice sounded exactly like his...all raspy when he's talking regularly but when he sings live he sometimes has to sing like an octave lower cuz his voice is messed up.

[QUOTE=AcidQueen]Wow your speaking voice sounds really ****ed up. Did you used to sound like that before you started screaming?[/QUOTE]

Me? My speaking voice is fine...when i posted that it might have been late or I might have just came in from a work out...I cant remember. But I do remember trying to keep my volume down since it was late. Who knows.
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Ick...just listened to it again! Yea I remember trying to keep my volume down. I've always been a rather airy talker unless I'm excited. and I heard where i said it was five in the morning. I might post another one now that I dont have upstairs neighbors. Anyone with any requests let me know. I know someone wanted a falsetto to rasp...

yes could you please post a falsetto to rasp? when you do the croaking type of thing in one of your samples it doesnt really sound like your using your falsetto voice.......or maybe i just have a misunderstanding of the technique used to produce the scream.



oh yes and could you also post an example of the "try to whisper while singing" thing that you talked about in one of your posts?

How about a sample of you singing any song you'd like, just because it'd be interesting to hear you actually sing a song.

Also, maybe sing your lowest and highest notes.

And maybe even an example of a growl and a scream and explain the difference for those people on this board that don't know the difference

Man, this makes me wanna post a sound clip of me singing to see if yall can tell me what I'm doin wrong but I'm embarassed, lol. You seem like you know what you're talking about but I just can't seem to change my voice.

Yea lloyd, I wasnt using falsetto because its easier to learn to get a safe rasp with a regular note because when youre in falsetto youre pulling harder on the cords, so the likely hood of you pulling on the throat, a no-no, so if you get it down with a lower tone you will be familiar with the placement as you go up in pitch.

Auz...I can do that....and I'm a baritone, ...So dont expect anything rediculous though.

Barclay...youre just a name on a forum for all of us....but you never know where one word or sentence of advice might could lead you. Like I said before...i was happy to start working with some new band and one guy told me that it sounded like I was holding back and I should sing harder. I took his advice that day on the way home from our second and last meeting. The band never materialized... but if i had never went through that and heard him say those words, then i might not have grown to a decent potential.

female screamer ;p
 

hey merkaba! your post got me diggin for my mxtabs password but dang didnt find it so registered a new one lol. but anyway recently i recorded a screamo song.. im used to writing acoustic sappy love songs n i thought of giving screamo a try.. i usually have rather squeaky talking and singing voice that most ppl i know always refer me to cartoon characters. grrrrrrrrr. lol. so this sample may sound a lil funny.. but i just wanted to know if i was doin it right n or wrong, if i should forget abt trying to scream at all or whatnot. ;p

thanks in advance!

the file: [url]http://us.share.geocities.com/bigfatdoink/rough_cut.mp3[/url]

Err.. paste in this ur browsers url box [url]www.geocities.com/bigfatdoink/rough_cut.mp3[/url] i didn't know posting geocities url wouldn't work. lol. sorry about that..

I'll think about it, thanks man.