any body got a sample of link of this dani filth scream? I hear people talking about it and i want hear it. Thanks if you do.

[url]http://www.cradleoffilth.com/cof/main_page_800x600.htm[/url]

click one of the MP3 links. if that doesn't work just go to [url]http://www.cradleoffilth.com[/url] and click downloads.

does anyone know Matthew James-Bellamey, from Muse? If so, does anyone know how to sing with his high pitched voice? please share

lol, "Mathew James-Bellamy"? You must be foreign, hehe. You have three voices when singing (i think). You're chest voice (very low, bass notes), you're head voice (middle range) and falsetto. Falsetto is the one matt bellamy uses to get those high pitched wails. He also puts effects on his voice while he's up there (so he doesn't sound *too* girly)

Have you ever done an impression of a girl? If you have, chances are that was in your falsetto range and the best way to develop it, in my opinion, is to just sing along with a cd featuring that style of singing. If you like the falsetto sound, check out Jeff Buckley! :thumb:

[QUOTE=Vitriolic Rage]a Dani Filth one, I inhale, if Dani does that exhaling he isn't human.[/QUOTE]
**** right
for a dani filth one I have to inhale
for a growl - like the start of lord abortion push the daiphragm right down and try to get the adam's apple right down in the throat...

thanks for that dredq. i live in australia... dunno if thats foreign to u tho.

Ahh right, cool! No offence was intended man, was just an observation! In the UK, he's affectionaly known as 'Matt Bellamy', hehe :)

o ok :D no offence taken.

I have a question , how loud should my scream be? may sound idiotic but y'know...

Also

I would like to learn how to scream like Josh Scogin, former singer of Norma Jean and current singer of The Chariot, he doesn't have that high pitched "screamo" or "emocore" scream.

you can listen to him here
[url]http://boss.streamos.com/download/toothandnail/downloads/normajean/norma_jean_memphis_hi.mov[/url]

and here
[url]http://www.purevolume.com/thechariot[/url]

Alot of this has helped me since i posted it, but i still cant get much of a rasp. Still need help with that. Like I understand how to close of the back my throat, i can do that, but to make a scream come out is impossible.So yeah still need help

Hey Merkaba... I just need some backup to see if I'm doing my scream right.
To make it short, I'm in a speed/melodic/classic metal band, and I mostly sing. I've taken a few vocal lessons, but I've figured much out on my own. I understand how sing chest, head, and falsetto, and I use all 3 forms in our music, and I can do a "rasp" or "distortion" on my head and falsetto singing voice. But I never really understood how to all-out scream until now.
I think I'm doing it right, it sounds loud enough, and I'm not in pain. My throat feels somewhat scratchy, but it only feels that way if I overdo it, I think. I recorded it, and I think it sounds decent compared to some other people's screams I've heard on here. Keep in mind, this is my first day seriously trying to scream... so bear with me. I'll post some stuff on soundclick in a second for everyone to hear.

I guess screaming is king of like "rasp-singing", you know what I mean? All I'm pretty much doing is imagining a note in my head and making that note except with much much more power behind it so it's an-all out scream... I'm really not sure if it's a head or falsetto voice, it's definitely not chest, I can't do guttoral screams... but I seem to harmonize with Children of Bodom and sound most like them more than anyone else.

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/pendingdemise[/url]

Alright... here's my vox. Copy and paste, people. Tell me if I'm doing it right or wrong.. I'm pretty sure I'm doing it right, I got volume and it doesn't hurt. I read pretty much everything Merkaba wrote, and that really helped.
So tell me what you think.. thanks.

I think the screams and the falsetto sound awful.

In your "falsetto vocals" you are pushing way too hard.

I think you aren't opening your throat up enough when you scream.

Thanks for your opinion. I'm not sure about my scream, since I'm not really experienced at that, but my falsetto (singing) probably just sounds funny because of the cheap mic. Besides... that was close to the highest falsetto note I can hit, so yeah, I probably was pushing hard, but it's the only way I can hit notes that high. I was just testing it out and seeing how it sounds on recording.
I think my scream sounds decent, but how can I open my throat more? I would think that if I did that, it wouldn't come out as a scream... I dunno, I don't really understand screaming yet.

I didn't understand it at first either. It took me about a year to get it. But once you figure out it's really easy.

Yeah, I bet. It didn't hurt while I was doing it, so I thought I was doing it right because it was loud and didn't hurt and all. But later that day and the next day my throat was kind of scratchy. Is that normal the first few times, do I need to build it up? Or am I just doing it wrong?

If you've been doing it for a while your thraot might hurt a little afterwards. If it's so bad that you can hardly talk, you're doing your vocals wrong.
Anyway, some tips from me:
For a Dani Filth type scream, I inhale.
When I'm doing my standard black metal scream vocals, I find sort of baring your teeth a little and sort of tensing your jaw helps. And remember, you must push air from your diaphragm, if you are just doing it straight from the throat that's not good.
Stand up straight as well (when recording, at a gig do what the hell you want;)), not slouched, you can breathe much better and your airways are more open.

Screaming is for bands with bad lyrics.

I have a problem, when I scream or try, I can get up to a volume that is around my normal speaking voice, but I can't seem to get any louder. Maybe I have a totally bad technique, I'm not sure. I'm trying the whole pull the back of throat down and apply pressure, but the volume isn't there.

[QUOTE=schecterguy89]Well my band wants me to scream, and I really dont nkow how. Can someone help me? Im lookin for like a deftones feel.[/QUOTE]

Here's how to scream: Remind yourself that George Bush began his second term today.

[QUOTE=Vitriolic Rage]If you've been doing it for a while your thraot might hurt a little afterwards. If it's so bad that you can hardly talk, you're doing your vocals wrong.
Anyway, some tips from me:
For a Dani Filth type scream, I inhale.
When I'm doing my standard black metal scream vocals, I find sort of baring your teeth a little and sort of tensing your jaw helps. And remember, you must push air from your diaphragm, if you are just doing it straight from the throat that's not good.
Stand up straight as well (when recording, at a gig do what the hell you want;)), not slouched, you can breathe much better and your airways are more open.[/QUOTE]

Thanks so much. And no, my throat didn't hurt so bad I couldn't talk, it was only a little scratchy and I just kept drinking water. But that was awhile after.
When I first tried screaming (like seriously trying to learn how) I read all of Merkaba's advice first, and then I went ahead and tried a few times. I found that screaming along with Children of Bodom helped too, because it.. gets you in the mood, I don't know how else to put it. Plus my screaming seems to harmonize with them.
I don't plan to scream much in my band, I'm more fond of "powerful singing" (Priest, Manowar, Iced Earth, that sort) so even if I was doing it wrong, it probably wouldn't affect because of how little I do scream, but as a perfectionist, especially when it comes to metal, I want to do it the right way.. so I hope I am. :thumb: :)

The mixed scream one, I can hear that youre squeezing your larynx. And it sounds like youre pushing a bit hard. Try it with a Hah. The h at the begining should help a bit. And dont forget to go robot face and move nothing but what you need to. And you should practice with about 50% of the push and volume youre using.

The falsetto scream was really a falsetto sing. More of a note. Not a bad one though. For that static sound try to scream it and whisper it at the same time. Again, with the blank face until you get it. You shouldnt really fell much of anything going on or moving in your throat. its ver subtle. Like I said, the same muscles you use to get the ANNNKK wrong answer buzzer type of sound. but dont squeeze the throat. try to sing it through the bottom lip if you could

Thanks Merkaba, I'll try that. I was trying to do my screams with "hut's".. I'll definitely have to try "hah's" and push less. As for the falsetto one, yeah that was supposed to be a note instead of a scream. Haha. No intention for a scream there. It wasn't the best tone, and crappy mic didn't help either, but yeah, my band is kind of going for the whole speed metal/Halford vocals thing.
Thanks for the tips! :thumb:

[QUOTE=CDoasis]Thanks Merkaba, I'll try that. I was trying to do my screams with "hut's".. I'll definitely have to try "hah's" and push less. As for the falsetto one, yeah that was supposed to be a note instead of a scream. Haha. No intention for a scream there. It wasn't the best tone, and crappy mic didn't help either, but yeah, my band is kind of going for the whole speed metal/Halford vocals thing.
Thanks for the tips! :thumb:[/QUOTE]

note...you still want to make sure youre opening your throat up...just to clarify. open you mouth as much as you need.. just dont tense up.

Hey merkaba can i get a file of u doing a bit of Mudvayne - Dig or something i wanna hear what u can sound like after alot of experience as i would like to scream, i want to like get a teacher but im sure there is no teachers where i live that will teach me how to scream/know how to.

[QUOTE=Interlaced]im sure there is no teachers where i live that will teach me how to scream/know how to.[/QUOTE]

That's a stupid thing to say. How do you know that?

if you only wish to know one thing about it
know that screaming may hurt your vocal cords

Hey guys I'm liking this forum haha now its my turn for a question =P I've tried everything so far and I think I'm getting the hang of it but I'm still having trouble getting the type of harsh scream ie:as i lay dying that I've been striving for. If you haven't heard the type of scream I'm talking about you can find it here [url]www.angelfire.com/ab7/alexmorris/song2.mp3[/url] <-- its a local band called Red Fall

I'm normally a drummer but I'm also kind of good with vocals. I can do Dani Filth's Lycanthroat style pretty well but I'm having trouble being able to draw it out as long as Dani does. It would be great if someone could give me some pointers. :evil:

why did you bump this thread, you fu[b][i][/b][/i]cking douchebag? get lost.

Amen....

JFC

equals...

Jesus Fu-ckin Christ!

Enough already.

I can scream very easily at low volumes, but unless I'm going nearly as loud as I can, I can't get a decent scream. would the exercise on the first page help?

a good band to practice somewhat higher screams would be alexisonfire, especially "a dagger through the heart of st. angeles" after the whispered part one of them screams "GO!" also "the leaving song pt. 2" by AFI for a more musical scream, at the end of the bridge