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Cheese Smirnoff 12-19-2003 12:15 PM

No ****ing guitar solos!!!!

-5/5

shadowsfall916 12-19-2003 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=Cheese Smirnoff]No ****ing guitar solos!!!!

-5/5[/QUOTE]
Music is not all about guitar solos,Everyone is crying cause there no solos in this cd so what it sounds good if u dont like it than dont listen to :angry:
4/5 If Metallica doesnt wont solos than let them do it,if they wont it go for it.

MxShredder 12-19-2003 02:09 PM

[QUOTE=13hrdrive]NOT TRUE - ROB IS ON THE BASS IN THE DVD. HE WAS NEVER ON THE RECORDING OF THE ALBUM - IT WAS BOB ROCK ON BASS AND PRODUCING.[/QUOTE]


.....i don't think you understood me

what i meant, is that while the video crew was recording the footage for the DVD, metalllica is playing a few of the songs (from start to finish) for the first time ever.

emokid03 01-01-2004 12:40 PM

[QUOTE=iloveteddy].5/5

Worst album ever[/QUOTE]



I agree, this is the worst album ever! :)

Griffin_Page 01-19-2004 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=Ecu]
75 minutes music (when other bands sell 35 minutes records at the same price), and DVD inside : +0.5[/QUOTE]


If it had been 75 minutes of good music, that may have counted.

1/5, one of the worst albums ever in my opinion... not just Metallica's worst album, but one of metal's (if you can call it metal) worst albums as well.

brycey 01-20-2004 10:54 AM

it isn't that great an album, if it was thrash metal, then everyone here would probably love it, but as people have said, the vocals kinda sucked and the drums uber-sucked.

metallica_pyro 02-05-2004 12:47 AM

9 out of 5!! One of Metallica's best albums!!

stevie ray 02-05-2004 10:02 PM

first album ive ever bought on the day it came out

first album from metallica i bought the day it came out

first big disappointment with a new album

I spent $17 on it

And it took 45 minutes to get the CD store, buy it, and get back home (i stupidely went the long way)

firemoth12 02-06-2004 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=MxShredder].....i don't think you understood me

what i meant, is that while the video crew was recording the footage for the DVD, metalllica is playing a few of the songs (from start to finish) for the first time ever.[/QUOTE]

Rob wan't even in the band yet when they recorded the album...so how could they be playing songs for the first time?

thrashfanatic2010 02-07-2004 10:47 AM

i don' think its the worst album ever but its metallica worst , production terrible, guitar playing is subpar for tallica and the drums, i didn't know lars traded his set for garbage cans and this hard for me to say cuz im big tallica fan, 1/5 and im being nice

jimmymcmahon2001 02-09-2004 07:01 PM

This is album is good in small doses. I can listen to each song at a time, but i cant do it all at once. The first time i listend to it, i got a headache at song 7.
Each song on its own is all right, but as a whole, its un listenable.
2/5

Raijo 02-09-2004 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=firemoth12][IMG]http://www.metallica.com/images/extras/2003_logo_bw2.jpg[/IMG]

St. Anger

Track List:

1. Frantic
2. St. Anger
3. Some Kind of Monster
4. Dirty Window
5. Invisible Kid
6. My World
7. Shoot Me Again
8. Sweet Amber
9. The Unnamed Feeling
10. Purify
11. All Within My Hands

Review:

Before this album came out, people were really anticipating it. They were thinking it would be back to the roots of old Metallica, with the thrash, speed metal kind of stuff. In a way, it is. It many more ways, it isn't.

The CD comes in nice paper packaging with the CD, the bonus DVD (of them rehearsing every track), the booklet (which contains all lyrics and a picture of the band), and a slip of paper which gives you access to more Metallica music online.



The music is very heavy, no doubt metal, but I think they tried too hard when they were making it. They were trying to make it sound raw, agressive, and angry. But they ended up with raw, agressive, angry, and uninspired music. They simply overdid it.

However this doesn't mean it's all bad.

[b]What I like:[/b]

Instrumentals - Even though the production is horrible (which I'll get to later), I like the guitar riffs, and the drumming. It is very fitting for this kind of music, and Lars does a good job with the double bass.

Concept - They wanted heavier, more agressive thrash, and they tried. The deserve credit for that.

[b]What I don't like:[/b]

Production - (or lack of). Cmon guys, you could have made this sound so much better if the production was good. The tin-can sound of the snare annoys the hell out of me. The guitars sound horrible in terms of production. They are low, and muddy while the drums are trebly and ringy. I read somewhere that Protools was used to copy and paste things within the music. Well, why? The songs sound choppy and repetetive because of that and the lack of content.

Hetfield's singing - I noticed that in several songs James tries to get to a note with his voice that he is simply unable to. Sometimes, I cringe because it feels like his voice is about to crack. Also, it is off-key a lot, and that doesn't help. Make the singing match to the instrumentals and it will sound so much better.

Lack of Solos - The lack of a guitar solo in a song does not automatically irritate me. I like many bands that solo very little and a song can still be wonderful without a solo. But on this album, I noticed many spots that could have been filled with a nice guitar solo, and it is such a shame that they weren't.

[b]Overall:[/b]

Once in a while, I will listen to this album. But, it is very hard to listen to the whole songs. They get boring, and choppy. If they improved the production, added a solo here and there, and told Hetfield to sing in key to match with the music all the time, it would have been an enjoyable record to listen to. It is only those specific things that make this album bad.

Favorite songs: All Within My Hands, Some Kind of Monster, Shoot Me Again

2/5[/QUOTE]

Metallica's best effort, 1000000/5 :rolleyes:

The JoZ 02-09-2004 08:54 PM

Did I comment on this one yet? I don't think so...

I like some of the songs on here. In terms of fast, in-your-face metal, this does the trick...without solos, and with horrid production, however

I heard Hammett quoted somewhere saying that the next album would be a return to their 80's thrash heyday....let's see how that goes...and look at this one as an experiment that didn't quite work...

MxShredder 02-09-2004 09:58 PM

[QUOTE=firemoth12]Rob wan't even in the band yet when they recorded the album...so how could they be playing songs for the first time?[/QUOTE]

i'll keep this simple

1. metallica didn't record this album live, some parts were recorded at different times (even months apart in a few cases)

2. there were a few songs that they never played, in their entirety, from start to finish untill the DVD shooting crew came to the studio

3. the dvd crew comes and sets up, metallica notices that there are a few songs that they have never truely rehearsed beforehand

4. while the dvd crew is recording them, you see them playing a few songs (i don't know which ones) in their entirety, for the first time ever

if you figured out how to come here and become a member, it should be well within your mental capacity to understand that

artificial infection 02-12-2004 07:09 AM

well although it's a bit repeatitive, and some songs sound similar, i think it's quite good, but nto as good as the other albums they have released. And the drums are a bit too metally, sounds like ur hitting a pan (the drum skin is too tight) I'd give it around 3/5.

Hitroshimite 02-12-2004 05:53 PM

I thought St. Anger was ok. The drums are annoying and the production is pretty bad, but some of the songs were **** good (Dirty Window, Frantic, Sweet Amber, St. Anger).

3.5/5

cobainism2003 02-15-2004 12:39 AM

this is a horrible album, i didn't buy it, my friend gave it to me... and it isnt that great, i can't even listen to the whole thing, its just repetive crap, a bad album for metallica. the only decent songs on this album are Dirty Window and Sweet Amber... DO NOT BUY THIS ALBUM. Go for some older metallica, Master Of Puppets is their best, buy that instead.

TheMiseryPlayer 02-15-2004 12:47 PM

I would give them a .6/5 it was the worst album i have ever heard. Because of the lack of preparation. Everybody sounds excellent in this ablbum execpt James and his vocals. Dont get me wrong I love His vocals in every other song they have done But the vocals do not sound right with the new music.

Bartender 02-15-2004 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=Raijo]Metallica's best effort, 1000000/5 :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Dude, quoting entire review posts is not cool.

And to the guy just above me - how can you say its the worst album you've [i]ever[/i] heard, if your only apparent problem is with the vocals and you think everything else sounds excellent?

This thread is getting bogged down with the same kind of arguments that were so hugely popular in R&M last year. Not necessarily a bad thing (I love seeing good discussion in CDR forum), but theres far too many people just coming on and going "terrible ****ing ****ty ****ing album", seeming not to have read the review or the posts that followed it.

Fender_Strat8915 02-20-2004 11:00 PM

i no that this thread is very old but i just have to say something......i thought that this cd sucked!! it was very different from their old stuff and i dont even listen to metallica anymore because of this cd right here!!

_____fender_strat_____

Crashingleg 02-21-2004 07:19 AM

0.0002/5. I heard Metallica lost so much money because of Napster that they couldn't afford to make good music anymore.

Crocto 02-21-2004 06:46 PM

4/5. deal with it and don't give me this garbage because children of bodom are terrible. korn sucks so don't even start there. dream theater is over indulgent. iron maiden have been rehasing since powerslave.

the production values weren't so great, but have you heard kill 'em all? the drum sounds like a trash can, but when you disconnect the snare it does sound like that. in parts jame's voice is distored like ministry uses.

why are you so scared of change? you can still go to a metallica concert and they'll still play one and master of puppets. so stop complaining.

oh and load was and still is a good CD.

superpeer 02-21-2004 07:52 PM

Worst Metallica cd I've heard.
Nonetheless 3/5

jimmymcmahon2001 02-22-2004 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=Crashingleg]0.0002/5. I heard Metallica lost so much money because of Napster that they couldn't afford to make good music anymore.[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol:
Good work
And, ive listened to this a few more times, and it's just gotten worse
0.5/5

ieatalotoftacos 03-14-2004 11:34 PM

What a waste of money, I want my $13 back. At least they could've made the DVD exciting, but it was just boring. It's always a bad thing when you're trying to convince yourself that an album is good after you've bought it, but release it sucks. -5/10 (if possible) Worst CD I've ever bought.

si6664ever 03-17-2004 11:46 AM

SHOCKINGLY BAD.

I would expect a lot better from metallica. St anger is a reasonable song but overall the album is very poor. Their older stuff is infinately better.

Fender_Strat8915 03-17-2004 03:26 PM

ya i thought that this cd sucked compared to their other ones......there was no solos in this cd like all of their other cds....that is what i was looking forward to..,.

2/5........it wasnt very good.....*go ahead and flame me**

Fender_Strat8915 03-17-2004 03:27 PM

[QUOTE=ieatalotoftacos]What a waste of money, I want my $13 back. At least they could've made the DVD exciting, but it was just boring. It's always a bad thing when you're trying to convince yourself that an album is good after you've bought it, but release it sucks. -5/10 (if possible) Worst CD I've ever bought.[/QUOTE]


.....ya i agree with u...all of the way....

Light_Fantastic 03-18-2004 12:20 AM

Ya know, I am an old school rocker & a metallica fan from way back....
but as I listen to this band trying to update their sound , they seem to have lost their original edge on this CD.
And I have to tell ya...That snare sound on every song, drives me frickin crazy...it is annoying & obnoxious....
I guess when you are this rich & famous, when the producer or engineer knows you have a crappy snare sound, but they let you leave it that way...You know you are way too rich & famous....

Jay

FunkMetalBass 03-18-2004 01:06 AM

I dont think that they could meet there own standards for this album, although they accomplished what they wanted to with it.

ibanez_k5 04-04-2004 07:18 AM

i think that metallica thought it was goin to be easy to make the album an they just never tried since they dont need to achieve anythin more....they might of got fed up of playing there old music since they have been doin it for so long maybe they just wanted a change. they should hopefuly listen to the fans if they make another album and it should be better. meh anyway if they think that it was a success then gud for them an they should do whatever they want :thumb:

metallicaman89 04-06-2004 01:16 PM

f****** $#1t£

jono1 04-06-2004 02:51 PM

at least its better than load and reload

jonty 04-08-2004 03:35 PM

st.anger sounds like they recoreded the first few minutes then just repeated it and repeated it i wouldnt mind but its not even good

Zppln 04-08-2004 05:39 PM

1.001/5

cytoplasmicblob 04-08-2004 06:12 PM

[QUOTE=metallicaman89]f****** $#1t£[/QUOTE]

shut up. and on the subject of this thread, DON'T come in here and say nothing but IT SUCKED. give a full explanation of yourself, and don't say its the worst album ever, cuz trust me, i've heard MUCH worse in any and/or all genres.

ahappydarkplace 04-08-2004 10:22 PM

I think this cd is pure crap. It just isn't Metallica.

love_Doctorb 04-08-2004 11:37 PM

the album hmmmm..... 2/5

live stuff off this album.... 10/5, all the stuff off St anger goes CRAAAAAAAAZY live. i love it

Griffin_Page 04-09-2004 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=jono1]at least its better than load and reload[/QUOTE]


Haha, since when? At least I can listen to songs off those two albums, I can't find one, and I said ONE song off of St. Anger that I like.

I don't think this album shoulda been classified under "Metal", but whatever.. I give it a "1/5". That is also the rating I give pop-punk bands and emo bands. Good job Metallica :thumb:.

BludgeonySteve 04-09-2004 01:17 PM

4/5 for your review :thumb:

The album gets a 2/5.

My friend hates metallica because he watches a lot of muchmusic (Canadian MTV) and they play st anger and frantic and he thinks that that is all that Metallica ever made. The idiot.


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