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Theo 06-19-2004 02:10 PM

Black album IS the best. At first, it's kind of difficult to get into cuz it's slower than their older stuff, but it has much more substance. And "Sad But True" is the heaviest, kick *** riff EVER! I play it every day and never get tired of it. NEM is by far the best 'tallica track. It is just a masterpiece. No other metallica album even COMPARES to black in substance. Some are faster (RTL, MOP, KEA), some are trashier (...AJFA), and some just plain suck(Load, Reload, St. Anger). But this is 'tallica at its peak. :smash:

clown_phobia 06-19-2004 07:06 PM

This album is the best metallica, and one of the best metal albums, and one of the best albums of the 90s.

sMURFJEW 06-19-2004 07:15 PM

Except for "the stuggle within" and "sad but true" i like all the songs on this album. None of the songs are classics but they're decent

Theo 06-19-2004 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=sMURFJEW]Except for "the stuggle within" and "sad but true" i like all the songs on this album. None of the songs are classics but they're decent[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding? Sad But True is da shiznit! The best heavy 'Tallica riff ever.
Even Kid Rock covered (sampled) it for his "American Badass".

jackblack 06-23-2004 01:01 AM

[QUOTE=nrvna85]:angry: your f*****g crazy dude. i don't know how you can even live with yourself after saying that the black album is overrated ,the songs sound the same ,and nothing else matters is boring. you should stop posting threads before you pollute someone elses mind with that crap.[/QUOTE]


eh...i agree with you, just mind that everyone is allowed an opinion. I personally think anyone who thinks Nothing Else Matters is boring, or Mama Said, or Bleeding Me, Orion, The Call of Ktulu, The Ecstasy of Gold...anyway, they need to pay more attention to the musical/artistic value of rock and metal, and less attention to a mere trifle like tempo and volume.

for that reason, Cliff Burton was a genius, having both the mad speed and heavy metallic feel to his music, but also making it as beautiful and complex as Mozart or Bach...hey, i would bet good money that he had perfect pitch, too...

ANYWAY, due to my opinion on Cliff, i reccomend any of the albums he was on, just for the instrumentals and Anesthesia...and the intro for Damage Inc...I can't seem to get that 'rush' that everyone talks about...normally...but i could for Damage Inc, because the intro cracked open my Mozart/Bach/classical music side, then infected...they are all beautiful songs.

Ok, i digressed...

[EoN-BluE-ApocalypsE] 06-23-2004 04:23 AM

IMO... its okay... I find the album increddibly boring in places (not including nothing else matters) but I dono.. its missing something that the others have.... 3/5

skateMASTERbater2 06-23-2004 07:46 AM

a good metallica album
enter sandman is one of my favorite metallica songs

mad man drummer 06-23-2004 08:37 AM

[QUOTE=nrvna85]:thumb: I don't know if it ranks up there with nevermind but it is a kick a** album. maybe i'm just saying this because nirvana is my favorite band of all time. NIRVANA F*****G RULES.[/QUOTE]

Dude toataly agree Nirvana is by far the best band of all time.

PS. Metallica rocks too.

Kreator 06-23-2004 08:44 AM

f[B]u[/B]ck you. nirvana are nowwhere as good as metallica. nirvana haven't even had a good solo. are a songs that's faster than 150bpm. so stfu

skateMASTERbater2 06-23-2004 09:01 AM

nirvana and metallica dont compare

blahandrew0830 06-23-2004 10:54 AM

5/5 this is one of the great albums of all time

bigguy69 06-23-2004 11:52 AM

the metal works is right the first five were killer and the rest suck

fountainguitar 06-26-2004 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]Possibly the most overrated Metallica album. Most songs here not only sound alike but are very dull plodders. The hits deserved to be hits, however, though "Nothing Else Matters" is extremely boring. I'd give it a 3/5 for its value at the time.[/QUOTE]


dude you have lost it.... you say this album is overrated??? This is one of metallicas best albums, and one of the best metal albums of all time!!!!i think you need to listen again, just once, but clean the crap out of your ears first. If you cant appreciate this, your hopeless

clown_phobia 06-26-2004 10:36 PM

[QUOTE=fountainguitar]dude you have lost it.... you say this album is overrated??? This is one of metallicas best albums, and one of the best metal albums of all time!!!!i think you need to listen again, just once, but clean the crap out of your ears first. If you cant appreciate this, your hopeless[/QUOTE]

hear hear

mexicanfloydian 06-27-2004 12:41 AM

this is a good album, but it gets kind of boring after listening to it for a while. I have like 3 years or something with this album and I cant listen to ir for more than 15 minutes, i get bored really quick.

Kreator 06-27-2004 03:23 AM

^^^ that's the same with every metallica cd

AnimalKracker918 07-26-2004 05:10 PM

4/5
Its a great album, but I like some of their others better

SubtleDagger 07-26-2004 05:25 PM

[QUOTE=fountainguitar]dude you have lost it.... you say this album is overrated??? This is one of metallicas best albums, and one of the best metal albums of all time!!!!i think you need to listen again, just once, but clean the crap out of your ears first. If you cant appreciate this, your hopeless[/QUOTE]
If you think this is anywhere near Metallica's best, you've lost it. Just the fact that there isn't a fast song here is enough to keep it from that. Go listen to [i]Ride The Lightning[/i] and [i]Master Of Puppets[/i]. Even [i]...And Justice For All[/i] was better than this one.

The Bronx Are Here 08-31-2004 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=manuscriptreplica] my name is poo and i think enter sandman is a cool song. everyone goes crazy when they hear it. but really, thats the only song i can stand from the CD. at least you can hear the **** bass on this album (a tiny bit). and nothing else matters - i dont care what anyone says, is one of the most boring songs ive heard. period. excellent solo, but i just kept waiting for it to speed up, and it didnt. oh well.

2.5/5


p.s.[/QUOTE]

you can't expect every song to give you an or*asm can you? i mean it's a good song for the tempo and enter sandman, the solo just dosn't fit the timing it's good but i dont think it fits as well as others do!

SubtleDagger 08-31-2004 04:46 PM

Bump [i]Master Of Puppets[/i] and I rape your mother.

timbrie 12-11-2004 09:39 AM

I don''t like the solos on this record

UnNormalLikeDrew 12-11-2004 09:02 PM

I used to fall asleep to this album everynight. It, basically, is a great way to get anyone into metal. Once my tastes evolved, I forgot about this album. That doesn't take away form the fact that it is good, but i will take MOP over this album anyday.

Samick 12-11-2004 10:36 PM

^^same here :naughty:--i'v noticed one thing... every one one likes a different album. so my respons is this, wake the **** up. come on, thats y metallica is as goodas thay are they are do diverce. my favoret is reload personaly.

laura_au 12-15-2004 08:10 AM

i have to agree that this album is kinda overrated, and i've noticed that most people here agree that enter the sandman is the best metallica song that theyve ever heard,
well all i can say is give ride the lighning a try, james' voice isnt at its peak back then but its my favourite metallica album up there with master of puppets. i reccommend you guys to listen to the tracks ride the lightning and creeping death and i'm sure you wont get bored with those songs

Dimebag_n_cliff_RIP 12-15-2004 10:32 AM

You people are making me ill. Hardly NONE of you have posted a true metalhead response, yet you all seem to think you're experts on Metallica albums. Here's the facts. Metallica doesn't have a "best" album. Neither does Megadeth, Pantera, Slayer, or anyone. People diss St. Anger, but if you really sit down and listen, it is killer. People say "Metallica sucks, they went from thrash (Kill em All, Lightning, Master, Justice) to just rock." Who the **** cares. Metallica rocks harder than you ever can. I say down with classifying heavy metal and just go straight HEAVY METAL! When I get in my car, HEAVY METAL blasts my frickin ears out, not "90's hard rock/heavy metal" Just heavy metal. Thats what metalheads live for. So what if Sandman got on the radio. That don't mean they've gone soft. They just did something different so that they wouldn't get bored with music. Shoot, even Megadeth has slowed down some, but they still rule my freakin world! METAL FOREVER!!

Dimebag_n_cliff_RIP 12-15-2004 10:43 AM

And besides, seriously, about 85% of the people that say "the first few were good but everything after The Black Album sucks" are only saying that because everyone else did for awhile. I know cuz i used to be the same way. The first 'Tallica song i ever heard was Until it Sleeps. I loved it. I was young, didn't even know who Metallica was, but ever since i can remember, seriously, I have been intrigued by both old skool rock and heavy metal. My parents raised me on Queen, Boston, Def Lepard, ACDC, and the very DAY that i heard about "heavy metal", i was hooked. Then along came Metallica. They rocked my world, but then that Napster crap happened. Well, i was still kinda young, so i went with the flow. "Yeah, Metallica is dumb for getting mad at people stealing their music" were my words. i literally TRIED to not like them. But something made me bang my head when I heard them. then I realized, "Hey, i'm a metalhead." i was only saying crap about them cuz i thought i was SPOSED to. But i was wrong. Load, Reload, all that, it don't suck. It's just different. Get over it or i'll make a lamp shade with your skin.

drummin_666 12-15-2004 12:31 PM

One of the best metal albums ever. 5/5

UnNormalLikeDrew 12-15-2004 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=Dimebag_n_cliff_RIP]You people are making me ill. Hardly NONE of you have posted a true metalhead response, yet you all seem to think you're experts on Metallica albums. Here's the facts. Metallica doesn't have a "best" album. Neither does Megadeth, Pantera, Slayer, or anyone. People diss St. Anger, but if you really sit down and listen, it is killer. People say "Metallica sucks, they went from thrash (Kill em All, Lightning, Master, Justice) to just rock." Who the **** cares. Metallica rocks harder than you ever can. I say down with classifying heavy metal and just go straight HEAVY METAL! When I get in my car, HEAVY METAL blasts my frickin ears out, not "90's hard rock/heavy metal" Just heavy metal. Thats what metalheads live for. So what if Sandman got on the radio. That don't mean they've gone soft. They just did something different so that they wouldn't get bored with music. Shoot, even Megadeth has slowed down some, but they still rule my freakin world! METAL FOREVER!![/QUOTE]

i think most people are just trying to say their favorite album.. not metallica's "best" you can't do that like you said.. but i really think most people with some exceptions are just saying their favorites...

dirge for november 12-15-2004 09:08 PM

i really enjoyed this album. good review.

fenderbender014 12-15-2004 10:14 PM

I can't believe what I am reading. Black Album was okay. Not great. Barely good. I have been a Metallica fan my whole life and own all their albums. Seen 2 of their concerts. Load was by far their WORST album. Go listen to Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice For All, and Garage Inc. before you even look at anything past them. "Fight Fire with Fire" kicks the crap out of that "Mama said" **** anyday. Face it, Metallica is a legend, but they stopped producing anything legendary after the Black Album, which is good. But not great.

Rockaholic704 12-16-2004 05:01 PM

Not sure if this has been said but it was actually their second album with Jason Newstead...Cliff died in 87, after MoP was released...

RiceMonster 12-16-2004 08:23 PM

This album is nothing special to me. 3/5

Carlos Santana 12-16-2004 08:24 PM

Can someone post a track by track review of this album

Shadows 12-16-2004 09:30 PM

This is an overrated Meatllica album. Good, not great, but it definitely has its moments. Earlier work beats the hell out of it.

3.5-4/5 for me.


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