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CommieCanada 02-26-2004 06:45 PM

STS got me into AFI and i have since listened to their older stuff, and i don't like it near as much. art of drowning is a good album but it lacks the crispness of STS. i guess i am just not an elitest who doesn't like and overproduced album, but for AFI it works well. especially with Davey's voice.

sidenote: i love the tone of jade's guitar. never heard anything like it

slim thugga 02-27-2004 07:42 AM

I think all their other cds are much better than this one. I didn't like this one that much. 5.5/10.

dazed and confused444 02-27-2004 03:36 PM

i got this album for £3 off a friend who dint like it....i loved it

ieatalotoftacos 03-14-2004 11:16 PM

For what was released in 2003, this is still one of the best albums of the year

boxcarblink41 03-31-2004 02:38 AM

i actually really disliked their earlier stuff with that crappy fast paced singing with no feeling, this latest release is fantastic. i especially like dancing through sunday, the leaving song, silver and cold and the great disapoinment.

slash&joeperry 05-27-2004 07:07 PM

This album kicks a$$. It is a shame that none of the quote "hard core" afi fans can appreciate the diverity and beauty in this cd. My fav songs off of it are The leaving Song Pt.II and Dancing Through Sunday

Gotkookie 05-28-2004 01:00 AM

ya this cd blew, all the other afi cds before the art of drowning were great

Gotkookie 05-28-2004 01:00 AM

all u 15 year old kids, say that the old afi sucked, because you dont know what real punk is

mirrorwave 05-28-2004 10:36 AM

can't belive the negative vibes bout the album. In my opinion it was awsome, in mind the best album to come out last yr bar none. Ok it's not hardcore punk anymore but bands move on develope and either better themselves or fade into nothin. AFI hav bettered themselves on this.
Listenin to black sails u get some quality songs but the album blends in sounds the same. Art of drowning moves on becomin more varied n inspirational, but sing the sorrow does the job for me.
If u like punk listen to early afi, if u appreciate decent songs and clever lyrics(if sometimes overstated) then purchase sing the sorrow. Wasn't off my cd player for months. It isnt punk it doesnt hav a catagory but it rox.

I Killed The Prom Queen 05-29-2004 06:15 AM

[QUOTE=mirrorwave]can't belive the negative vibes bout the album. In my opinion it was awsome, in mind the best album to come out last yr bar none. Ok it's not hardcore punk anymore but bands move on develope and either better themselves or fade into nothin. AFI hav bettered themselves on this.
Listenin to black sails u get some quality songs but the album blends in sounds the same. Art of drowning moves on becomin more varied n inspirational, but sing the sorrow does the job for me.
If u like punk listen to early afi, if u appreciate decent songs and clever lyrics(if sometimes overstated) then purchase sing the sorrow. Wasn't off my cd player for months. It isnt punk it doesnt hav a catagory but it rox.[/QUOTE]


Excatly. I saw A.F.I in show and i think they are an awesome live band. Ive read mags that rate them best show/tour of the year.

lpsoxfan88 05-29-2004 07:54 PM

This has to be one of the best CDs I have ever heard. I borrowed/burned it from a friend and at first I didn't think it was that special. But the more I listened, the more I realized that this is a great CD. I have since bought "The Art of Drowning", and that CD has really grown on me and is now one of my favorites. If your head's not shoved too far into your rectum to realize good music because you're so focused on being a "real punk", it's an excellent CD.

shadowofnothing 05-29-2004 11:17 PM

Sing The Sorrow
 
This album was made for the emo kids

iwearthemark 05-30-2004 05:43 PM

Everyone who said this album sucked go suck a ****. 8/10

TojesDolan 05-30-2004 06:23 PM

I must agree with epifreak2002, this a great jump for ex-punk-guys that want to go a little bit more metal-wise. Dancing through sunday's solo is a great attempt of Jade (the guitarist) to change a little bit their old "punk" riffs to a more mature sounding music. Although this punk-meets-rock was a very big risk, because it could be easily rejected by hardcore-punks and metal-heads would hate it to the bone for mixing those two genres.

This might sound discriminatory, but guitarists might find that riffs here are very complex and well-structured, at least it's better than the 3-chord progressions of nowadays pop-punk. That's just my opinion, and the review is good, but it lacked a more deep review of each song.

mirrorwave 06-01-2004 02:18 PM

[QUOTE=dolandestroy]I must agree with epifreak2002, this a great jump for ex-punk-guys that want to go a little bit more metal-wise. Dancing through sunday's solo is a great attempt of Jade (the guitarist) to change a little bit their old "punk" riffs to a more mature sounding music. Although this punk-meets-rock was a very big risk, because it could be easily rejected by hardcore-punks and metal-heads would hate it to the bone for mixing those two genres.

This might sound discriminatory, but guitarists might find that riffs here are very complex and well-structured, at least it's better than the 3-chord progressions of nowadays pop-punk. That's just my opinion, and the review is good, but it lacked a more deep review of each song.[/QUOTE]

The only reason it a risk is because they're attemptin to b different and filling a gap no other band has taken, and in my opinion the risk is worth it. its not harcore punk, but its not suposed to b, plus most "hardcore punk" is a few basic chord patterns and sum angry lyrics with a husky voiced singer, in other words the hardcore punk in usually the name given to the bands unable to produce decent music so they call it hardcore to get away with the **** they produce, for example earlier afi is hardcore but also poor music.
I'm guessin many ppl will love these views!

sailw/primus 06-03-2004 12:50 AM

[QUOTE=slash&joeperry]This album kicks a$$. It is a shame that none of the quote "hard core" afi fans can appreciate the diverity and beauty in this cd. My fav songs off of it are The leaving Song Pt.II and Dancing Through Sunday[/QUOTE]

True! Oh, I love dancing through sunday....hell I love the whole thing I can listen to it over and over again front to back.

Tangy zizzle 06-03-2004 02:38 AM

I'd ive this album a solid 4.3/5.

I like it alot.

Liam Alan 06-03-2004 10:41 AM

I heard some of their new CD from some "Live at the Hard Rock" type show. I wasn't too impressed. I was actually kind of depressed at the decline in their sound. I don't think it sucked or they "Sold Out" or anything just not cup of tea. I started listening to them when a friend recommend "Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes" so I was kind of thrown by the sound of this album. It is actually the only (major) release of theirs I don't own.

Sep 06-06-2004 11:12 PM

This album's great! It really annoys me when people start disliking AFI because they're on MTV now.

How do you own disorder? 06-16-2004 12:58 PM

The album may not have been fantastic as a whole, but there were some great note-worthy songs (like number 11) that you guys already, um...noted. I know someone already said this, but the solo in Dancing Through Sunday was totally sweet.

Sep 06-16-2004 01:08 PM

The Leaving Song (part 1) is my favorite song. If you have got this album, pop it into the PC and download SYNESTHESIA. IT's absolutely incredible, one of my favorite songs ever.

GL Ajax 06-16-2004 04:40 PM

AFI=amazing. Nuff Said. ;)

TheBurntOrange 06-16-2004 05:11 PM

ok, here is how it works AFI is a good band. whenever a band becomes really mainstream their music changes and hence they are called sellouts. With a majority of these bands the original music was good. Original blink was great, original AFI was better, however if you look at Sing The Sorrow with an open mind you will appreciate it. TAOD is way better BSOTS is the best. haha none of what i said made any sense.

anti-social_guitarist 06-16-2004 07:03 PM

i own every afi lp/ep and it's true that afi is a band that grows on you. originally i didn't even think the record was that great, but after awhile it grew to be one of my favorite records of all time. afi is a great band, jade is an awesome guitarist, hunter's bass playing is cathy as hell, adam has made great beats, and davey's vocals are something you just don't find anywhere else. but it's the honesty that brings out the greatness of this band. that's why afi is one of the greatest bands of all time, because they're powerfull and meaningfull. true afi fans would die for the band.

RollerQueen 06-17-2004 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=Sep]The Leaving Song (part 1) is my favorite song. If you have got this album, pop it into the PC and download SYNESTHESIA. IT's absolutely incredible, one of my favorite songs ever.[/QUOTE]

That won't work for me. It gives me a "no input file specified" notice after the initial screen that says "Enter Secret Site". :(

afistsrocks 06-19-2004 02:05 PM

sing the sorrow
 
yeah, dancing through sunday, leaving song pt II, death of season, bleed black and paper airplanes are all excellent songs. the album rocks, so does art of drowning especially days of the phoenix and smile, havent heard much of the other albums. i think sing the sorrow is by far the best afi album yet.

afistsrocks 06-19-2004 02:08 PM

i totally agree, both albums completely rock. by the way everyone who thinks the album was afi's worst album yet because you think youre too hardcore, you dont know sh*t.

afistsrocks 06-19-2004 02:14 PM

[QUOTE=TheBurntOrange]ok, here is how it works AFI is a good band. whenever a band becomes really mainstream their music changes and hence they are called sellouts. With a majority of these bands the original music was good. Original blink was great, original AFI was better, however if you look at Sing The Sorrow with an open mind you will appreciate it. TAOD is way better BSOTS is the best. haha none of what i said made any sense.[/QUOTE]
all of it made sense you retard, taod is the art of drowning, bsots is meant to be black sails in the sunset, but isnt 'in' spelt with an 'i'? and anyway what would be the point if it didnt make sense? waste of time if you ask me

Sep 06-20-2004 03:33 AM

[QUOTE=RollerQueen]That won't work for me. It gives me a "no input file specified" notice after the initial screen that says "Enter Secret Site". :([/QUOTE]

Do you have MSN? I could send the song to you. [email]itchy_bum_hole@hotmail.com[/email]

;)

ThursdayRules 06-21-2004 08:48 PM

this is an emo side of AFI and they pulled it off good... i like the cd.. but i also like their old stuff like blaks sails into the sunset and the art of drowning AFI is a good band

Benny_loves_it 06-28-2004 01:24 AM

[QUOTE=mirrorwave]can't belive the negative vibes bout the album. In my opinion it was awsome, in mind the best album to come out last yr bar none. Ok it's not hardcore punk anymore but bands move on develope and either better themselves or fade into nothin. AFI hav bettered themselves on this.
Listenin to black sails u get some quality songs but the album blends in sounds the same. Art of drowning moves on becomin more varied n inspirational, but sing the sorrow does the job for me.
If u like punk listen to early afi, if u appreciate decent songs and clever lyrics(if sometimes overstated) then purchase sing the sorrow. Wasn't off my cd player for months. It isnt punk it doesnt hav a catagory but it rox.[/QUOTE]


Sumed it up really well there :thumb:
I really like their old stuff aswell, but like you said i think they've devolped heaps from that era of music. A good cd all round by a great band in my mind, still i would like to see them playing some of their old skool tunes and not completely losing that streak they have in em

Jade75XL 06-28-2004 04:13 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]The album got alot of hype, and alot of kids seemed to be really excited about it, so I thought I'd give it a listen....

*sigh*

While a few tracks are somewhat interesting, the over-all product is repetitive and predictable. It seems that they have a very set formula....They seem to use the pop-punk up-tempo beats that they'll throw in there and the painfully cheesy pop-choruses as "filler" for many of the tracks that, themselves, seem to be filler.

Up-points of the CD included the dreary "Leaving Song Part 1 (track 11, not to be confused with the current single). The two singles aren't bad compared to the rest of the album, a sure sign of a bad CD.

"Death of Seasons" seems to be a desperate attempt to hold onto their harder edged roots, but it soon falls into yet again another typical AFI pop chorus.

"The dissapointment" is just that: a dissapointment. It starts out decent enough, with a nice little bass line followed pretty closely by the drummer, with a decent vocal entrance, however it is ruined when the vocalist decides to shoot for those over-used high-notes he seems to adore for the chorus.

It's possible that they are capable of more than this, but that in of itself makes "Sing the Sorrow" that much more pitiful.

[/QUOTE]

Everybody has their own opinion on the subject but if this cd is so bad why was it voted best punk album of 2003 by revolver magazine. You don't know what your talking about when you say it's repetitive and predictable who are you to judge afi on their intentions of this album, you say they are trying to hold on to harder edged roots. It's afi they are who they are, they aren't trying to be something they're not if you don't like so what don't slander afi's good name.

Jade75XL 06-28-2004 04:28 AM

I just love afi i have all of their cd's and the ep's and two vinyl format albums, this cd is just as good as black sails or art of drowning if not better i'd give it a 5 out of 5

meeeeeeeeeeeeee (returned) 06-28-2004 06:54 AM

I hate what afi have become, now when i go to a show there are a million 14 year old girls with afi shirts on, if I had bought an afi t-shirt when i first got inot them, everyone would of had a go at me for standing out and trying something differant (****n pop-punk kiddies, should stay at raves and leave 'punk' shows)

squee333 06-28-2004 08:30 AM

[QUOTE=meeeeeeeeeeeeee (returned)]I hate what afi have become, now when i go to a show there are a million 14 year old girls with afi shirts on, if I had bought an afi t-shirt when i first got inot them, everyone would of had a go at me for standing out and trying something differant (****n pop-punk kiddies, should stay at raves and leave 'punk' shows)[/QUOTE]


You know what pisses me off? People who dislike a band because other people like them. Even if the music hasn't gotten any worse, those kind of people are like "OMG IF I LIKE AFI I NOT HARDCORE!!!!!11111 MuSt TrY vErY hArD tO bE dIfFeRaNtZ!!!!!!!!!1111111oneoneone"
I personally felt the album was one of their best, the singing was better, the guitar was better, the bass, drums, and songwriting were better. The songs didn't sound the same from one song to the next in this one. I was listening to Black Sails in the car, and I would look back and see that 2 or 3 songs went by, while I still thought it was the same song. (If that makes sense...)
Don't get me wrong, I loved Black Sails and I loved the Art of Drowning even more, but I just felt that before Sing the Sorrow their music was very repetitive and similar-sounding. That's my opinion.

silencethesheep 06-28-2004 11:43 AM

i think sts is good but not as good as the others. i also think that (not all) but SOME people only sat that sts sucks because now afi is more popular and they are only saying that to sound cool. iduno if anyone on here does it but i know a few people who suddenly hate the music just cuz more people like it. dumb. ok flame away.

silencethesheep 06-28-2004 12:06 PM

whats with all you people who discrminate against all the 14/15 year olds who like or dont like afi? i am that age and i love afi's music. and no i don't think i am punk or hardcore or any of that crap i just like them. get over it.

DarkstarPunk2468 06-29-2004 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=AlkaliSkiba]Is Art of Drowning good?
I really wanna get it :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Art of Drowning was easily one of their best cd's. Get it. :thumb:

DarkstarPunk2468 06-29-2004 12:12 PM

Cheese
 
Art of Drowning rules. :thumb:

DarkstarPunk2468 06-29-2004 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=silencethesheep]whats with all you people who discrminate against all the 14/15 year olds who like or dont like afi? i am that age and i love afi's music. and no i don't think i am punk or hardcore or any of that crap i just like them. get over it.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree


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