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lynch_me 10-21-2005 01:42 PM

[QUOTE=Rancid Dan]I don't like metal much tbh.

I like the odd band, including SOAD, Converge and DEP.

(not strictly metal, but w/e)[/QUOTE]
rlly srsly? ths al mtl u lke wtf? wana cme 2 a bbq btw? no? w/e.

AK47 10-21-2005 01:43 PM

pqrs.

albert_bass 10-21-2005 01:44 PM

[QUOTE=Laihoistheman]and metal doesn't :confused:

im complete opposite i get completly blown away when i hear shredding like that and the riffs can get stuck in my head for days.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Metal doesn't have the kind of energy I like and it's not original at all from my point of view (if it's original from any point of view). Agreed with that?

[QUOTE=Tyler]Are you joking?[/QUOTE]

No, it said so in purevolume and I read it so I'm sharing it. If it's wrong you correct me but no irony please.

Brain Toad 10-21-2005 02:37 PM

If you limit yourself to one genre, you are hendering your self. Music is a lot more then one genre and should be enjoyed that way, you may prefer one over the other, like I perfer punk and its sub-genres over rock and metal, but I don't hate those genres and like plenty of bands within them. Anyone who says another genre 'sucks' usually is an ignorant fool who feels the need to be elitist to make themselves look bigger.

Sleeper 10-21-2005 02:44 PM

I love Rock and Metal, although most of the new Metal is trash.

Pinhead13 10-21-2005 02:55 PM

[QUOTE=superdigg]A lot of my friends that listen to punk seem to hold Rock and Metal in contempt, scoffing at those that listen to it. I used to listen to punk and feel sort of the same way, as if the R&Mers were missing out on something, buuut now I prefer R&M over punk and yeah it just got me thinking. Like, the other day, I was telling my "punk" friend how much I enjoyed this Rush album I got, and [B]she's like "really, Rush? :rolleyes:" as if Rush is like, baby music! Then I asked if she had ever heard any Rush, and she hadn't.[/B] It's a filthy prejudice, and it seems to be pretty common, at least among people I know in real life.

So anyway, what do you guys think of R&M/its listeners?[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol: why should i be against rock or metal? i love both genres with such a passion....

JohnXDoesn't 10-21-2005 03:04 PM

I have nothing against metal. I don't like it, if that is what you are asking. But I have nothing against it. I don't mind some music with metal influences and what not. And it's the genre that introduced me to rock n roll when I was eleven or so. Or I should say that I noticed when I was eleven. I liked it for a couple of years. I thought it [I]was[/I] rock n roll, really. Then I heard the Who and the Clash and just never looked backed. Kind of put me on a different path. So no, I don't like metal. And I don't know what you mean by "rock", but I'm pretty sure I like it.

Shadows Within 10-21-2005 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=Anxious Mo-Fo]Thats my opinion, more or less.

My brother is a huge metal fan, I think the metal he listens to (Power Metal) is cheesy and laughable. But I do like some metal bands. Black Sabbath, Iron Madien(some of the time), and electric wizard.[/QUOTE]
:lol: power metals my fav i love the cheesieness (SP:confused: ) i listen to dragonforce, nightwish etc and love em all.

[QUOTE=albert_bass]Exactly. Metal doesn't have the kind of energy I like and it's not original at all from my point of view (if it's original from any point of view). Agreed with that?[/QUOTE]
not really...i find punk incredibly boring and hardcore/emo unlistenable.

iliketoplaydrums10111 10-21-2005 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=Arucard]I like both equally. Freaks Union are my faverouite band, along with Arsis. One is punk, one is Death Metal.[/QUOTE]


Same way, I can listen to Leftover Crack/Bad Religion and Cryptopsy and Decapitated back to back

Death metal, and punk

Excursions 10-21-2005 06:24 PM

I listen to bands and if I like them I will continue to listen to them.

Ghostfire3 10-21-2005 06:36 PM

I used to like classic rock a long time ago, but I just got sick of it because it's too old and it'll never change. I started getting into punk a while ago and now I can't get enough of it. One of the best parts of punk is the energy that it delivers. There's no other music like it.

(r)evolution 10-21-2005 07:02 PM

I really don't like metal or rock, that's not to say that people who listen to it have bad tastes in music per-se. However, it's just that most of the rock and metal i've heard has (to me) been utter rubbish.

Ghostfire3 10-21-2005 07:30 PM

Metal just doesn't provide the same energy that punk does for me. Nothing beats goin to a good punk show, some of the best times a punk can have.

superdigg 10-21-2005 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=Ghostfire3]Metal just doesn't provide the same energy that punk does for me. Nothing beats goin to a good punk show, some of the best times a punk can have.[/QUOTE]
have you been to a metal show? IMO, they're pretty energetic as well. in my town, at least.

and yeah, punk's simplicity turns me off. it's not simplicity for simplicity's sake, but what results FROM the simplicity. like, i find a lot of the songs to be too predictable (an argument that could also be made against rock and metal, i realize)

cods 10-21-2005 07:45 PM

i listen to punk more for the "message", and i listen to metal for the musicality.


i'm high and that's the best way to explain it right now.

AIRIC 10-21-2005 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=superdigg]have you been to a metal show? IMO, they're pretty energetic as well. in my town, at least.

and yeah, punk's simplicity turns me off. it's not simplicity for simplicity's sake, but what results FROM the simplicity. like, i find a lot of the songs to be too predictable (an argument that could also be made against rock and metal, i realize)[/QUOTE]

Metal seems a lot more divided than punk. I love the atmosphere of punk shows where everyone is friends, and I've never been to a metal show, but I don't think that's there much.

Shadows Within 10-21-2005 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=Skrunnch]Metal seems a lot more divided than punk. I love the atmosphere of punk shows where everyone is friends, and I've never been to a metal show, but I don't think that's there much.[/QUOTE]
it's more agressive but mostly the same except the acts are better IMO.

redstainedeyes 10-21-2005 07:51 PM

People at my school think I only listen to punk and ska because I don't like the most popular styles of metal and rock (I can't stand hair metal, nu-metal, what I call overboard rock, grunge, or crappy modern rock). However, I love The Who's early stuff, Beatles are one of my favourite bands, I love the Kinks, I like Chuck Berry, Elvis, and Buddy Holly, and fast forward I like a lot of post-punk and new wave (The Cure are one of my favourites), and I really like reggae, and I'm starting to get into Motorhead. So the only problem I have is that a lot of people who listen to rock around here don't recognize anything but their own brand of rock, which is a very small slice of the pie.

Ghostfire3 10-21-2005 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=Skrunnch]Metal seems a lot more divided than punk. I love the atmosphere of punk shows where everyone is friends, and I've never been to a metal show, but I don't think that's there much.[/QUOTE]

Very true, the atmosphere at a punk show is one of the best parts of the show. The unity at shows is awesome and you dance and stuff with people you've never seen before in your life.

superdigg 10-21-2005 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=Skrunnch]Metal seems a lot more divided than punk. I love the atmosphere of punk shows where everyone is friends, and I've never been to a metal show, but I don't think that's there much.[/QUOTE]
i know what you're getting at, but IMO there's a pretty good sense of *unity* at metal shows too. it's hard to explain, but when you're moshing to a thrashey metal chorus and you get knocked to the ground, and you get helped up only to get smacked around again, you really feel like you're "one with everyone else", if you know what i mean.

Shadows Within 10-21-2005 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=superdigg]i know what you're getting at, but IMO there's a pretty good sense of *unity* at metal shows too. it's hard to explain, but when you're moshing to a thrashey metal chorus and you get knocked to the ground, and you get helped up only to get smacked around again, you really feel like you're "one with everyone else", if you know what i mean.[/QUOTE]
and the fact that everyone wants to talk about how the shows going/there fav bands etc.

superdigg 10-21-2005 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=Laihoistheman]and the fact that everyone wants to talk about how the shows going/there fav bands etc.[/QUOTE]
yeah, i get a pretty good sense of unity at metal shows. i'm pretty sure most genres have that feeling attached to them.

and hey, with punk, isn't there little conflicts between the skins and the punks and the anarcho guys and all? or is SLC punk full of sh'it? (i hate the new swearfilters :upset:)

Shadows Within 10-21-2005 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=superdigg]yeah, i get a pretty good sense of unity at metal shows. i'm pretty sure most genres have that feeling attached to them.

and hey, with punk, isn't there little conflicts between the skins and the punks and the anarcho guys and all? or is SLC punk full of sh'it? (i hate the new swearfilters :upset:)[/QUOTE]
fuck shit

..yeah they suck i was wondering why everyone kept saying fusty walrus...is fusty even a word?

Ghostfire3 10-21-2005 08:17 PM

Also, something I like a lot about punk is the lyrics. I like songs that talk about political issues, unity, anti-racism, and such. Whereas a lot of the metal stuff I've heard talks about just dark and gloomy stuff.

superdigg 10-21-2005 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=Laihoistheman]fusty walrus! poop

..yeah they suck i was wondering why everyone kept saying fusty walrus...is fusty even a word?[/QUOTE]
apparently so
[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fusty[/url]

Shadows Within 10-21-2005 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=Ghostfire3]Also, something I like a lot about punk is the lyrics. I like songs that talk about political issues, unity, anti-racism, and such. Whereas a lot of the metal stuff I've heard talks about just dark and gloomy stuff.[/QUOTE]
id rather it be dark and gloomy that about stuff i really wouldent agree with :p besides i dont listen to metal for the lyrics i listen to it for the musicianship.

guns_of_brixton 10-21-2005 08:40 PM

I like some Euro prog metal, if that's what its called. Bands like Gamma Ray, Edguy, etc.

superdigg 10-21-2005 09:03 PM

[QUOTE=Laihoistheman]id rather it be dark and gloomy that about stuff i really wouldent agree with :p besides i dont listen to metal for the lyrics i listen to it for the musicianship.[/QUOTE]
really? i think lyrics/vocals add a whole lot to songs. with punk, though, it seems as if it's all *too* vocal-focused, with the instruments really being "backing".

Excursions 10-21-2005 09:08 PM

Saying metal is better because of the musicianship is a redundant point in many ways. Listen to the Minutemen. The end.

non sequitor 10-21-2005 09:12 PM

punk is awesome when its done well (the clash, dead kennedys, etc...) but really sucks when shi'tty bands play it (or mediocre generic ones like pennywise and anti-flag). most in the punk forum would agree with that statement. the same argument aplies to any genre of music, including rock and metal. dont judge a genre until you've actually listened to it enough to form an educated opinion.


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