[QUOTE=G&L RF]That's wrong, my friend. Jack Sherman and Cliff Martinez wrote Mommy Where's Daddy with the peppers. I think they wrote a few other too. Just look at the album credits.[/QUOTE]


Mommy Where's Daddy may be true but, in the book Scar Tissue, Anthony mentions nothing about them contributing creatively to the album at all. He actually does point out that they hired someone besides Jack Shermon but fired him because he couldn't learn the songs. I'm pretty positive that if they did write anything it wasn't more than one or two songs.

Did sherman play in freaky stylely, i know jack irons didn't.

styles:

flea= punk rock and funk
hillel slovak = classic rock and funk
john f = funk rock punk elcectronic (eg. devo)
chad smith = rock

[QUOTE=Flea is Godly]Did sherman play in freaky stylely, i know jack irons didn't.[/QUOTE]

Just to clear future posts up...

Self-titled: A.K., Flea, Jack Sherman, Cliff Martinez
Freakey Styley: A.K., Flea, Hillel Slovak, Cliff Martinez
Uplift Mofo Party Plan: A.K., Flea, Hillel Slovak, Jack Irons (original line up)
Mother's Milk: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith
BLOODSUGARSEXMAGIK: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith
One Hot Minute: A.K., Flea, Dave Navarro, Chad Smith
Californication: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith
By the Way: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith
Silencio: A.K., Flea, John Frusciante, Chad Smith

Also, D.H. Peligro wrote at least one Uplift drum part. And Hillel contributed four to the debut. But Hillel was on all of Freakey Styley.

Silencio is that there new album or some thing?

They aren't funk any more than Tool is Indian raga.

[QUOTE=sweet_love_of_mine]Silencio is that there new album or some thing?[/QUOTE]

It is indeed. Check their site if you'd like to.

Tower of Power is funk, alright!!!
P.S Some people here need a clue.

Their older stuff was definately funk, as Flea's prefered genre was jazz bass, and they generally swung that way.
Now it's kind of alternative style.

None of their stuff WAS EVER FUNK.

Now this has been established can one of the mods please lock this thread?

[QUOTE=franz sanchez]None of their stuff WAS EVER FUNK.

Now this has been established can one of the mods please lock this thread?[/QUOTE]


Do you know what funk sounds like? I guess not, bro. Freaky Styley is a funk album, everyone agrees. Maybe you've never heard it. I suggest you go listen to it before you say they never played funk.

I suggest all of you go listen to some Commodores and Earth, Wind & Fire before you even use the word 'funk'. I agree with most everyone here, though - they used to be funk rock (I suppose you could call it 'pfunk' if you want, with a silent p :P), but in later times their music has evolved into pop rock with funk no longer integral, but still an influence. Then again, haven't heard Silencio.

i wouldnt say RHCP are completely funk (excluding freaky styley) they definatly have funk influences.

The same thing applies to me - I'd love to play funk or Spanish or cool jazz or metal but all those genres just mix and come through at different levels at different times when I play. So I just call myself fusion metal and hope it intimidates people enough that they don't ask questions. :)

[QUOTE]Do you know what funk sounds like? I guess not, bro. Freaky Styley is a funk album, everyone agrees. Maybe you've never heard it. I suggest you go listen to it before you say they never played funk.[/QUOTE]

I would say that YOU have never heard any real funk. If you really believe that RHCP were at one time a band that played funk, then that's your opinion. Maybe you'd best stay down the end of the garden with the fairies you're probably convinced exist.

Meanwhile, have a look at my band's website, listen to some soundclips and then judge whether I know anything about funk or not.

[url]www.speedometer-funk.co.uk[/url]

Let's keep this debate open, I'm starting to enjoy this. I can feel another elconguero vs. cameron baloney war coming.....

Yeah funk influences, but not funk all together.

1.Okay, to the idiot who described recent chilis as pop punk :lol: : find me a single song on by the way that features fast distorted power chords.

2. The reason the chilis are funk and korn aren't despite both having funky bass is the chords john plays.

3. While they don't have a jazzy swing sound they are still kinda jazz because of their improvisational spirit.

4. Finally, F-Styley was funk, no question. Now they're more experimental pop.

They have funk influences but are not funk in the same way that the Talking Heads and Gang of Four are not funk.

Ok, I will give that some of their older stuff was fairly funky, some people may call it funk. But, i've heard a fair bit of their recent stuff, and it is definatley not funk. Saying they are a funk band now is like saying that James Brown is a traditional gospel or motown singer because that's what he did in his early days. Bands and musicians CHANGE. Sure, his current funk style is influenced by motown, gospel, etc(He basicly created funk out of those), but he isn't a motown musician right now. Same with Chili Peppers and funk, sure they may have done it earlier, and they may have influences from what they did, but if anyone with a funk ear listens to what they are doing now, it is not funk.

^Dude, how many people here said that they're still funk today? Almost no one... if not no one... sorry, you're just speaking as though everyone in this thread hasn't realized that.

[QUOTE=franz sanchez]I would say that YOU have never heard any real funk. If you really believe that RHCP were at one time a band that played funk, then that's your opinion. Maybe you'd best stay down the end of the garden with the fairies you're probably convinced exist.

Meanwhile, have a look at my band's website, listen to some soundclips and then judge whether I know anything about funk or not.

[url]www.speedometer-funk.co.uk[/url]

Let's keep this debate open, I'm starting to enjoy this. I can feel another elconguero vs. cameron baloney war coming.....[/QUOTE]


I don't feel like listening to your band but, I'll assume you're a funk expert. But, you're certainly not an expert on RHCP is you say that they were never funk. Freaky Styley is their only album I would say is a funk album. It was produced by George Clinton so, it's not hard to beleive that it was funk. Listen to the album and tell me that I'm wrong.

They went through funk phases, I've heard a little grunge, I have also heard some steps into experimental/prog.

[QUOTE=Tarquin1986]1.Okay, to the idiot who described recent chilis as pop punk :lol: : find me a single song on by the way that features fast distorted power chords.

2. The reason the chilis are funk and korn aren't despite both having funky bass is the chords john plays.

3. While they don't have a jazzy swing sound they are still kinda jazz because of their improvisational spirit.

4. Finally, F-Styley was funk, no question. Now they're more experimental pop.[/QUOTE]
1. you DO know that thats not a defininf feature of punk, right?

2. how so? would you ever classify faith no more as funk? because theyre in the same boat.

3. just because they rely on improv (which i dont see in them very much) doesnt mean theyre jazz. blues relies a lot on improv. so do jam bands. theyre not jazzy.

4. there are clearly questions. otherwise, there wouldnt be this debate.

[QUOTE=fr0zt]I agree, they add funk, metal, and jazz influences to their sound. Their Hillel Slovak albums were more pure funk than anything though. Lately they have been pop-punk. I will keep waiting until they release another Mother's Milk :D[/QUOTE]


they arent pop...i wouldnt calss it anyway.....and john said that he hates mothers milk and BSSM now because he couldnt stand playing with the band at the time.

[QUOTE=C. OSullivan]It is indeed. Check their site if you'd like to.[/QUOTE]
I dont see anything on there?

[QUOTE=KRASH]they arent pop...i wouldnt calss it anyway.....and john said that he hates mothers milk and BSSM now because he couldnt stand playing with the band at the time.[/QUOTE]
not true
john only hates mothers milk because of the producer who told to play in a specific style that he didn't like. John loved playing with the band, only in the tour of BSSM he hated being too famous and he had drugs problems.

[QUOTE=franz sanchez]
Meanwhile, have a look at my band's website, listen to some soundclips and then judge whether I know anything about funk or not.

[url]www.speedometer-funk.co.uk[/url]
[/QUOTE]

:thumb: What do you play?

[QUOTE=KRASH]they arent pop...i wouldnt calss it anyway.....and john said that he hates mothers milk and BSSM now because he couldnt stand playing with the band at the time.[/QUOTE]

Between 1988 (when he joined) and 1992 (when he left), John said that he was happy and couldnt have been happier.

He didnt like his playing on Mother's Milk in RETROSPECT because the producer had him do layered guitar work that he wasn't fond of.

He today is still proud of his playing on BSSM and cites the recording sessions for that album as one of if not the happiest time of his life.

It was when John was touring and not able to be with his girlfriend all the time, when he was getting paranoid from weed, when he was having problems with Anthony, that John left.

I don't need to be an expert of any kind to say that RHCP don't play funk - most of the users of this forum will say that for me.

For some reason, staunch defenders of RHCP get really upset over the fact that the majority of funk collectors/DJs/musicians all agree that RHCP have never played any funk. Do you all REALLY believe that they were once a funk band (they NEVER were) or are you all upset that someone has said that there is something that they (RHCP) are not?

What next - RHCP were once a hip-hop band? Invented dancehall? did a bit of electronica on the side? Was the inspiration for Debussy and Strauss?

I'll stand by it - RHCP are not a funk band, have NEVER played any funk (no matter what some coked up LSD-head past it Doo-wop singer produced), and never will play any funk. If you don't agree, listen to some REAL funk, and play it side by side against RHCP - there are no similarities.


Re- AmericanWeiner: In Speedometer, I play percussion. Laugh all you like, MaxLeighton et al, but I'm the one doing the tour of Japan's Blue Note clubs next month, not you. :-P

[QUOTE=franz sanchez]I don't need to be an expert of any kind to say that RHCP don't play funk - most of the users of this forum will say that for me.

For some reason, staunch defenders of RHCP get really upset over the fact that the majority of funk collectors/DJs/musicians all agree that RHCP have never played any funk. Do you all REALLY believe that they were once a funk band (they NEVER were) or are you all upset that someone has said that there is something that they (RHCP) are not?

What next - RHCP were once a hip-hop band? Invented dancehall? did a bit of electronica on the side? Was the inspiration for Debussy and Strauss?

I'll stand by it - RHCP are not a funk band, have NEVER played any funk (no matter what some coked up LSD-head past it Doo-wop singer produced), and never will play any funk. If you don't agree, listen to some REAL funk, and play it side by side against RHCP - there are no similarities.


Re- AmericanWeiner: In Speedometer, I play percussion. Laugh all you like, MaxLeighton et al, but I'm the one doing the tour of Japan's Blue Note clubs next month, not you. :-P[/QUOTE]

You have obviously have no idea what you are talking about. First of all the band has played many cover of funkadelic and the meters and other funk and only that shows that they are playing funk. Also, Freaky Styley was produced by the funk master himself George Clinton who always said how funky the peppers are. and you go on and listen to the newer cds and they all got some funk in them, and this is coming for a straight funk guy. RHCP are funky. you are reminding me of these 90 year old guys who when they hear jazz now they say its all wrong cause its not played like in the 20s. Well, music has to advance and has to change, if music stayed the same everything would be boring. so just because the Peppers don't play in the same funk style as funkadelic doesn't mean they're not funky. I think the Peppers have a great style of funk rock and they've been influencing many other musicians