[QUOTE=Unstable Mind]Exactly. Posers look toward the mainstream or.. 'popular' thing.[/QUOTE]
Not always. A poser might try to do something that's not popular to fit in with a certain group of people or be looked at in a different way, even though he or she doesn't actually know anything about what the group represents.

[QUOTE=Kage]Not always. A poser might try to do something that's not popular to fit in with a certain group of people or be looked at in a different way, even though he or she doesn't actually know anything about what the group represents.[/QUOTE]
That too, but there are many different posers and wannabes.

[QUOTE=stonecoldbush]People who care so much about other people's musical tastes are usually the ones who are poseurs.[/QUOTE]

Hey I attack the wannabes by tellling them there music sucks like the good charlotte idiots who think good charlotte is (goth) metal.

plus if I didn't beat up the posers then metal would suck in my general area...

[QUOTE=Kage]Not always. A poser might try to do something that's not popular to fit in with a certain group of people or be looked at in a different way, even though he or she doesn't actually know anything about what the group represents.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Posers can be in any scene.

Last year, three "Goth" kids got featured in a BBC article. They talked about how they listened to Slipknot, Good Charlotte, Dimmu Borgir, Blink 182, and all sorts of other bands, calling them Goth, and it was obvious they had never heard a single Joy Division or Sisters of Mercy song in their life.

They also talked about how they like to cast spells and gave each other retrarded names like Mercy Whispers and Lord Mercy.

My response: "Really? Well my name is Bill Schtinkwater."

I love messing with the heads of idiots like that. It's so fun to watch them try to muster a counterattack in vain.

Kids that say simple plan GC greenday weezer etc. are punk.

[QUOTE=chairman_of_the_board]Kids that say simple plan GC greenday weezer etc. are punk.[/QUOTE]
O Jesus, punk is even worse than metal in this regard. All this trash that isn't metal or pop is just labeled "punk" by people. :(

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]O Jesus, punk is even worse than metal in this regard. All this trash that isn't metal or pop is just labeled "punk" by people. :([/QUOTE]

Hey, Weezer pwns.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Hey, Weezer pwns.[/QUOTE]
I like punk, just the real stuff:

Monster Squad
GBH
The Unseen
Exploited
Virus
Oxymoron
A Global Threat

I'm not trying to say punk is bad. :)

[QUOTE=Med57]In all fairness, that might be genuine ignorance, perpetrated at least in part by the media. I've seen bands like Green Day described as "punk legends" in magazines that really ought to know better. I'd say elements of being a "poser" only come in when you insist that you're right, ignoring people that actually know what they're talking about, and refusing to listen to people who are actually trying to help you.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Posers try to fit into a scene by insisting that they're right. They think it will make them look more competent.

Remember last week, the thread about listing bands in certain genres? There was that one kid who kept classifying all these bands wrong (i.e. Scorpions - power metal) and when people called him on it, he accused us of knowing nothing and then bailed. Poser material, right there.

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]I like punk, just the real stuff:

Monster Squad
GBH
The Unseen
Exploited
Virus
Oxymoron
A Global Threat

I'm not trying to say punk is bad. :)[/QUOTE]
You're just saying how the media labels pop-punk as punk. The media needs to be crucified.

"The Ramones? Who the hell are they?", Is what some dude who thinks he's a punk because he listens to Simple Plan came up and said. (I don't think I'm punk, I just like the music :) ).

[QUOTE=Unstable Mind]You're just saying how the media labels pop-punk as punk. Therefore, Simple Plan fanboys go to hot topic and other places in the mall to buy their rebellion.

"The Ramones? Who the hell are they?", Is what some dude who thinks he's a punk came up and said. (I don't think I'm punk, I just like the music :) ).[/QUOTE]
Not just pop-punk, they'll label stuff like Blondie punk.

???????

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Exactly. Posers try to fit into a scene by insisting that they're right. They think it will make them look more competent.

Remember last week, the thread about listing bands in certain genres? There was that one kid who kept classifying all these bands wrong (i.e. [B]Scorpions -[/B] [B]power metal[/B]) and when people called him on it, he accused us of knowing nothing and then bailed. Poser material, right there.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, he's a douchebag. He'll probably classify Rhapsody and Iced Earth as jazz fusion :lol:

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]Not just pop-punk, they'll label stuff like Blondie punk.

???????[/QUOTE]
:amaze:

Blondie and punk do not fit into the same sentence.

hey 80's punk was good so as though I don't have to hear all that anarchy bullsh|t comein from these "posers" mouths like the ever dreaded anarchy in the UK well I yell "YOU LIVE IN ****|N AMERICA YOU STUPID ****|N SH|T FU(KS" (and this is to the people that constantley change to be something there not like one day theyll be punk the next metal then goth then pop then some other stupid crap that you can't just jump on board and be "hey I'm here lets go because I obviously have no clue what this is or what I'm getting into")

Rambaling done...

Hmm... Wasnt everything so much simpler in the 50's, when you listened to either jazz, blues, swing, or rock n' roll...there was no "mainstream" and there was so much cool chromed stuff...

[QUOTE=nicovski]Hmm... Wasnt everything so much simpler in the 50's, when you listened to either jazz, blues, swing, or rock n' roll...there was no "mainstream" and there was so much cool chromed stuff...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but then came along the radio. And MTV.

The good part is, theres more of a variety.

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]I like punk, just the real stuff:

Monster Squad
GBH
The Unseen
Exploited
Virus
Oxymoron
A Global Threat

I'm not trying to say punk is bad. :)[/QUOTE]


All those bands own. Good Charlotte compared to GBH,Is there a comparison there,nope,and that's what's so bad about. You let these kids listen to Crass or something and they're like 'That's not punk'. It kills me I swear.

[QUOTE=chairman_of_the_board]All those bands own. Good Charlotte compared to GBH,Is there a comparison there,nope,and that's what's so bad about. You let these kids listen to Crass or something and they're like 'That's not punk'. It kills me I swear.[/QUOTE]
I know, their ignorance knows no bounds. :(

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]Not just pop-punk, they'll label stuff like Blondie punk.

???????[/QUOTE]
I can't stand that. I've heard an idiot say Three Days Grace was his favorite punk band. Also, one time I was listening to Cryptopsy on my walkman, and someone asked me if they could hear it. So of course, I showed them, and there response was "I hate that punk crap." I just stared at the idiot in disbelief.

In my point of view, posers are:

-People who simply download music, never buy any albums, and yet still claim to love a certain band.
-People who go into Hot Topic and buy a shirt of a band, yet not own any albums from that particular band.
-People who buy the latest album by a band that's been around for many years, but claim to have liked them for the longest time.
-People who go to a concert of a band they've simply heard of off of MTV, but not actually know any of their songs.

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]I can't stand that. I've heard an idiot say Three Days Grace was his favorite punk band. Also, one time I was listening to Cryptopsy on my walkman, and someone asked me if they could hear it. So of course, I showed them, and there response was "I hate that punk crap." I just stared at the idiot in disbelief.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, some dude listened to one of my Children of Bodom cds and was like "I like Punk Rock like Green Day better, this band is too straight up punk."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I think we've already covered that posers are people who want to fit into a particular scene because they think it will be convenient or beneficial for them. However, they don't possess the proper mindset, dedication, or beliefs to truly adopt the lifestyle of the scene, so they take every stereotype they can find, live up to it, and then pretend to know what they're talking about.

Posers are easy to spot because of their cliched arguments and stances, lack of substance backing their statements, stereotypical behaviour, and brash dismissal of anyone in the scene in question who calls them on their ignorance.

Once a poser has effectively made himself a pariah in the current scene, he scraps the act and picks up another one.

In life, everyone is either a leader of a follower. Posers are the worst kind of followers.[/QUOTE]
well explained

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]Yeah, some dude listened to one of my Children of Bodom cds and was like "I like Punk Rock like Green Day better, this band is too straight up punk."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: Once ignorance reaches that level, it's no longer ignorance; it's stupidity.

[QUOTE=high_voltage_acdc]Yeah, some dude listened to one of my Children of Bodom cds and was like "I like Punk Rock like Green Day better, this band is too straight up punk."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Sounds like my friend...he calls music he doesn't like "punk [COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]hit"

I swear, he acts like hes 40...he likes REALLY old classical music, most of which is like that technoish 70s dance.

Anyway, i think a poser is somebody who is too "elite" to try out other forms of music, and refuses to be wrong in that their music taste is the best.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]
Anyway, i think a poser is somebody who is too "elite" to try out other forms of music, and refuses to be wrong in that their music taste is the best.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't that be an elitist?

Yeah, that's really more of an elitist than anything else.

By the way, Shattered_Future, I got the Celtic Frost thread up. Should be on page 2.

[QUOTE=fallenstar]Slipknot makes poser songs just to make money. Thier good stuff isnt even on a cd like the song Pulse of the maggots. So thats why thier sellouts and posers listen to them.[/QUOTE]

You're an idiot, they make music because that is what they like to do, the band themselves have said many times they don't give a f*ck what other people think.

Pulse of the Maggots is on Vol. 3: Subliminal Verses

I listen to them, but I also listen to probably 50 other metal bands, I am not a poser

It's spelled POSEUR.

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]It's spelled POSEUR.[/QUOTE]
Meh, poser is more convenient. :p

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]You're an idiot, they make music because that is what they like to do, the band themselves have said many times they don't give a f*ck what other people think.

Pulse of the Maggots is on Vol. 3: Subliminal Verses

I listen to them, but I also listen to probably 50 other metal bands, I am not a poser[/QUOTE]

Slipknot still aren't the most credible people in the world. And they certainly are pretentious. I believe it was Cory Tailor who said their masks were an expression of who they are inside. Very interesting considering the story I heard was that one of their "percussionists" bought a clown mask hoping it would help him overcome his stage fright since no one could see his face, then the rest of the band thought that was a good idea and the rest was history.