r japanese made ones any good? i'm thinking of buying a marcus miller jazz

[QUOTE=I-cant-sing]what is the s-1 switching system like, is it reliable?[/QUOTE]
yes it's reliable...I unfortunately had a problem with mine (bad wiring) but since I've fixed it, it's been great...(someone correct me if i'm wrong) when the S-1 is off (not pushed in) it uses both PUps (P/J,humbucker) and when it's on it uses just the neck PUp (single J).

Also, [U]Try it before you buy it[/U]...Who knows a fender just might not be the sound you're going for and if you're looking to buy a MIA there are other great basses in that price range, so shop around. Just my $0.02

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]*confused*[/QUOTE]

sry i meant good rats not radio i got confused lol

[QUOTE=warwickcorvette]r japanese made ones any good? i'm thinking of buying a marcus miller jazz[/QUOTE]

theyre somewhere between mexi's and americans. id call that pretty good.

[QUOTE=Stoic]someone correct me if i'm wrong) when the S-1 is off (not pushed in) it uses both PUps (P/J,humbucker) and when it's on it uses just the neck PUp (single J).[/QUOTE]

It changes the pickups from series to parallel...

^ it was an explaination of that..to my understanding of it atleast.

when the s1 is engaged it uses both jazz pickups to create a fatter tone similar to what you would get with a humbucker

:mad:

I have a drill...

Go buy a MIM or CIJ and ill make it string through for you, you will never use it, but you actually have the "option"....

and.. since fender japan usually have reissues, the majority of their basses is equiped with american pickups, so im not gonna say anything on that...

Both My Basses have fine fretwork, i cant see how it could be better? :confused:


Stop calling my basses bad ****it! :mad:

yeah but when you buy mia your supporting your country if you live in america that is

[QUOTE=XpunksXdeadX]yeah but when you buy mia your supporting your country if you live in america that is[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

:rolleyes:


this time i actually mean it: americans... :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Eddie-the-Trooper]:mad:

I have a drill...

Go buy a MIM or CIJ and ill make it string through for you, you will never use it, but you actually have the "option"....

and.. since fender japan usually have reissues, the majority of their basses is equiped with american pickups, so im not gonna say anything on that...

Both My Basses have fine fretwork, i cant see how it could be better? :confused:


Stop calling my basses bad ****it! :mad:[/QUOTE]

I'd actually try putting E and A through body and D and G top loading :p.

And I've never called a CIJ bad, just said MIA's have higher quality.

This will be my last post discussing this with you, as we are talking on MSN as I type. :)

[QUOTE=Eddie-the-Trooper]

this time i actually mean it: americans... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

:lol: Reminds me of the Harley riders that tell me to buy American when the Harley's have all kinds of foreign parts installed. Global economy here people. I'm all for supporting the local guys but there's a limit

And yeah, I like CIJ and all (owned a CIJ guitar) but the price to import them is only like $100 less than the MIA basses. Considering what MIA basses sell for used, there is no point unless it's a reissue or artist you want. Japan knows how to make some quality instruments but Fender MIA and MIM cost much less over here than they do elsewhere

[QUOTE=PainKiller8191]dude....look at the price differences though...i mean:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=122/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/515201/c_lv=1/[/url]
and slap the word "america" on it:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=122/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/511390/c_lv=1/[/url]

is
"Graphite re-enforced necks
Bi-flex 2 way truss rod
Die Cast tuners
Bridge that allows string-thru-body or top load stringing
Better pickups
Better electronics (potentiometers)
Much better fretwork
Better grade of wood for the body and neck
Comes with a hardshell case
Straplocks"
that really worth double the MIM/MIJ/whatever the first one is!?!?!????????
i need an answer quick it would either save my life or force me to wait and work another year or two[/QUOTE]

I thought the MIM has american parts, but is just put together in Mexico.

I don't think I'd ever buy a MIA, unless I have a ****load of money, I'm gonna try out that MIM and if I like it, save up for it. At least that one's affordable, unlike the american...

^MIM has mexican parts.

Maybe you are confused with the Highway series; Mexican parts assembled in america.

I'm talking about that one particular bass

what is the difference of it being assembled in america if its made out of the same parts?! :confused:

Hey, Radio, you still think mine pups are worse than americans? :lol:

well, I don't have a clue. The name maybe? Meh, if it's good, I'll buy it, if it's not, I won't. I don't really care where it was made and it's not like I'm a pro anyways

I never got the Highway series... I have yet to play one that felt $300 better than my MIM Tele or my sister's MIM P-Bass...

[QUOTE=HeavyBassDude]what is the difference of it being assembled in america if its made out of the same parts?! :confused:

Hey, Radio, you still think mine pups are worse than americans? :lol:[/QUOTE]

Seeing as most are reissue pups, they are even. Tone-wise they are completely different. I prefer modern tones for the most part (unless it's a P).

I thought we talked about this at MSN a while ago :p.

[QUOTE=HeavyBassDude]what is the difference of it being assembled in america if its made out of the same parts?! :confused:

Hey, Radio, you still think mine pups are worse than americans? :lol:[/QUOTE]
When it says Made in USA on it they can sell it for more money :thumb:

^^ In that case, I'd probably say it's true. It SORT OF makes sense; they pay more for labor. Why they make the same bass in two places, I wonder...

Also, I just remembered, the finishes are different.

Yeah, big difference :p.

I think the Highway 1 series is for the nationalists who refuse to buy non-american made items, so they make basses out of mexi parts in California, say it was made in america, and sell it for more money.

[QUOTE=Radiobass81]^^ In that case, I'd probably say it's true. It SORT OF makes sense; they pay more for labor. Why they make the same bass in two places, I wonder...

Also, I just remembered, the finishes are different.

Yeah, big difference :p.[/QUOTE]

Labor is just part of it. The manufacturing methods may also be different because of the way the US necks are made and the different parts involved. Part of your labor force costs includes training. Training on quality control issues, assembly, etc. The US series have more consistant quality in terms of fret finish, fit/finish and assembly than the MIM instruments do. Part of that is related to training and part it is related to your work force involvement or morale/pride for the product.

There is a lot of things that add up to make the US basses better and more expensive than the MIM basses. Besides the electronics, reinforced necks, you get better tuners, threaded neck angle adjustment, better wood, and much better overall quality.

I am not discounting Japan either. These people are the original people to use quality and lean manufacturing practices that Deming envisioned. They know how to make a great product, and it shows. The prices, however, of the MIJ (:p) instruments in the US are not far behind the MIA instruments and don't get the ultra stable necks the US basses have. Then you look on the used market and see a US Pbass or Jazz bass for $600 or $650 USD. CIJ basses are pretty much forgotten. I realize the price difference elsewhere is considerable, but not really here

the wood in my bass is JUST A GOOD as MIA... just so thats stated...

[QUOTE=HeavyBassDude]the wood in my bass is JUST A GOOD as MIA... just so thats stated...[/QUOTE]

It says so on the bass does it? :confused: :p

seriously, there's no way to really know about company practices without actually being employed by them. Marketing can spin anything

[QUOTE=PainKiller8191]i-cant-sing, you're just being stupid now, t[B]here alot of alright squiers out there[/B], every brand name's got its lower quality insturments and higher quality ones....

as for radio, show me a mexican with a J humbucker...only in america:)[/QUOTE]

I have a pretty **** good squier. (luckily) when I took it in to get re-setup the tech guy said my squierp sounds better then his MIAfender p.

--edit I cant believe d-amn was bleeped.

what exactly is the'better fretwork'?

some frets are sharp, some are nicely rounded (filed) and blended into the neck, sometimes their are chips of wood off the fingerboard where the frets are installed (saw an Epi goth like this)

The most common thing I see is where the edge of the fret comes past the edge of the neck and has a sharp edge on it. I notice it now because I nearly cut myself doing a slide on some random bass in Guitar Center

That has more to do with the store not caring than the place it was made... The humidity changes as it's shipped, wood shrinks, fret ends become exposed. The store doesn't care, and you, the consumer, must suffer for their poor business practices. Good stores always let the instruments aclimate to the humidity of the shop, and then setup and dress their instruments.

are mim heavier then mia or cij?