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RiceMonster 05-30-2005 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]Where have I read this before......;)

Anyways great job again.[/QUOTE]
As have I. :)

CaptainWaits 05-30-2005 09:54 PM

Yes great job Lunch.....once again!

MalcolmYoungRock 05-30-2005 10:07 PM

[QUOTE]He developed an interesting concept and a complex plot[/QUOTE]

And confusing.

Anyway, I have long been anticipating this FA from you Lunch, and you didn't let me down.

*Achilles brother secret handshake*

BludgeonySteve 05-30-2005 10:30 PM

**** that was long :eek:. I love the who, you love the who. The who


who the like who

yeah

ultimaterocker 05-30-2005 10:40 PM

absolute brilliant f.a great work! the who are sweet ***. baba o riley is one of my favorites.

Seafroggys 05-30-2005 11:22 PM

[QUOTE=brittallica]okay great work but come on people moon was a fantastic drummer rog and dalt were
good but face it pete is a average guitarist and Hendrix always upstaged the who
as far as them being the best band ever forget about it its the beatles or Led zeppelin
page was better than pete bonham was better then moon and robert well nvm but you get hte point They were a very good band but not the best[/QUOTE]

Okay, not saying Zeppelin is bad but....

Townshend/Page: Okay, Page might have been a better soloist, but Pete kicks *** at rhythm, AND is a much better songwriter, no doubt.

Daltry/Plant: Daltry is definitally the better singer. He has a better voice and a bigger range. Plant couldn't sing softly really well.

Entwistle/JPJ: Okay, obvious. Entwistle is probably the best bass player of all time.

Moon/Bonham: Bonham was good, yes....but MOON! Holy crap, he's the coolest drummer ever! This is coming from a drummer mind you. Yeah, there's plenty out there who are way more skilled, but his style is what makes it kick ***. Style>skill.

Keith Moon alone makes the Who better.

PinkFreud 05-30-2005 11:24 PM

nice job.

dont forget to push entwistle through in the bass polls people.

StreetlightRock 05-31-2005 02:26 AM

[quote]bonham was better then moon[/quote]

Zepp is my all time fav band... but seriously.... Moons Drumming is SO much cooler than Bonham.

DVG.

magicbus 05-31-2005 08:58 AM

Excellent job, all the way through. It was a very entertaing read :thumb:

Everyone download Magic Bus!

robo2448 05-31-2005 09:32 AM

[QUOTE=brittallica]okay great work but come on people moon was a fantastic drummer rog and dalt were
good but face it pete is a average guitarist and Hendrix always upstaged the who
as far as them being the best band ever forget about it its the beatles or Led zeppelin
page was better than pete bonham was better then moon and robert well nvm but you get hte point They were a very good band but not the best[/QUOTE]

why don't we stick to the topic about THE WHO, not Zeppelin. Does every single thread on this board have to turn into a Zeppelin debate?

Anyways, great job Lunch. I've always meant to ask this, that line underneath your username is from However Much I Booze right?

You should have mentioned that when you were talking about The Who By the Numbers. Glad you mentioned How Many Friends though- most underrated song the Who ever recorded.

lunch998 05-31-2005 01:47 PM

No, it's from Slip Kid. Still Who By the Numbers though.
[QUOTE]*Achilles brother secret handshake*[/QUOTE]
*Secret Handshakes back*

LedZeppFan83 05-31-2005 02:01 PM

I Agree/Disagree
 
[QUOTE=DVG]Zepp is my all time fav band... but seriously.... Moons Drumming is SO much cooler than Bonham.

DVG.[/QUOTE]

- Led Zeppelin is my favorite band too, and yes, i love The Who. But Bonham's dumming skills are alot better than Moon's. Have you seen the solo on "The Song Remains The Same" DVD when they played in Madison Square Gardens in 1976? Now tell me if Moon's drumming can beat that solo.

lunch998 05-31-2005 02:05 PM

Have you heard Live at Leeds? Seen the Isle of Wight Dvd? Seen any footage of Moon play? I love Bonham too, and I'm not saying he wasn't great, but Moon's drumming was on a plane much different from any other rock drummers of the time.

Robo: Yea and they are tracks are #1 and 2 I believe, so it's easy to get them mixed up.

robo2448 05-31-2005 02:06 PM

Moon wasn't about soloing. He just hit everything in sight. :cool:

/ends Bonham/ Moon debate forever

I haven't listened to The Who By the Numbers for a while. I was close. However Much I Booze is "there ain't no way out."

rockinbass17 05-31-2005 03:01 PM

Great FA to my favorite band. I like how you desribed every album in detail.
I have every one except My Generation- must get soon.

JohnXDoe 05-31-2005 04:12 PM

Would all my fellow Who fans [I]please[/I] stop calling it The Who [I]By[/I]The Numbers! It's The Who By Numbers, plain and simple. And it's the most underatted Who album, IMO. Most likely because it came on the heels of three classics. Dreaming from the Waist, However Much I Booze, How Many Friends Have I Really Got, Success Story. All those tracks are steller. And that's not to mention the better known tracks. I think my favorite is The Blue , Red and Gray. When I'm an old man I'll be somewhere on a boat, enjoying life and kicking it in my lounge chair, humming right along with that one.

So far as who are better musicians and from what groups and what not, it really doesn't matter. Bands like The Who have long shown Rock n Roll is more about heart, soul, and [I]balls[/I] then being the best or better musician. If musicianship came into play, I can name literally hundreds of crappy bands with really good musicians in them. Probably most of them. Gimme Townshend and Moon over just about anyone, any day. Because when they play, I can [I]feel[/I] it. In all the right places :thumb:

TheSeeker625 05-31-2005 04:49 PM

Great Job!
My username is a reference to the song "The Seeker."

Brewer14 05-31-2005 05:12 PM

That was awesome

If anyone could upload Behind Blue Eyes, I'd appreciate it. Every version I find is by limp bizkit

jmoney 05-31-2005 05:15 PM

The Who is my favorite band. Keith Moon is my hero. I thought you should all know that

robo2448 05-31-2005 06:15 PM

That's great, thanks.

JohnXDoe 05-31-2005 06:23 PM

Here's a link for all those who are unaware of this site:

[url]http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/[/url]

It's got a great section called "Who TV" that has hours of Who and Who related video played in a loop. Bootleg stuff, old TV tapings, rare concert footage and videos, solo stuff from all the band members. I just saw an 8 minute drum solo from Kieth Moon that had little black kids dancing in the aisles and teenage girls wetting thier panties! It was from an old radio broadcast. Good stuff :thumb:

Just click the Who TV button in the upper right corner on the first page of the site, and the video will begin wherever it may be. Thier is also video and photos of The Who's more recent performances in the members only "The Who" section of the site.

David Bowie 05-31-2005 06:30 PM

Amazing FA!
The Who are great for sure!

rockinbass17 05-31-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]Here's a link for all those who are unaware of this site:

[url]http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/[/url][/QUOTE]

Many thanks! :thumb:

Townshend forgot the lyrics in the first chorus of the acoustic Won't Get Fooled Again :eek:

But the Naked Eye performance made my day!!!

Leper 05-31-2005 11:49 PM

Nicely done Lunch, very extensive and in-depth, that's what we all like to see :thumb:..and I quote "Any thing worth doin' is worth doin' right." Tom Hanks-A League of Their Own.

StreetlightRock 06-01-2005 02:43 AM

[quote]Now tell me if Moon's drumming can beat that solo[/quote]

Yesh, but im talking about GROOOooove and funk in the songs themselves, the "Listen to me GOOOo!!" value of Moons drumming is better than Bonham, IMO.

DVG.

JohnXDoe 06-01-2005 02:58 AM

[QUOTE=DVG]Yesh, but im talking about GROOOooove and funk in the songs themselves, the "Listen to me GOOOo!!" value of Moons drumming is better than Bonham, IMO.

DVG.[/QUOTE]

True. And Moon never solo'd in The Who because soloing is not what The Who were about. On Who TV at the link I posted earlier thier is a Moon solo performance that really shows well his rythmic drumming style, as you see people in the audience actually [I]grooving[/I] to it, for lack of a better term. And it's impressive technically, as well.

lunch998 06-01-2005 03:21 PM

Moon never gets credit for any techical ability in his drumming, but the drumming to Amazing Journey and Sparks is really complicated at parts, especially the timing. And he's got a great touch, being seemingly all over the set but never ruining the song.

JohnXDoe 06-01-2005 03:50 PM

The Who at Woodstock: Exerpted from the Dave Marsh Who Biography "Before I Get Old"

"We were more arrogant then nervous before we went on," said Townshend. Pissed off is more like it. Backstage, everything from the Coca-Cola to the coffee was spiked with acid and the band had been flat out tripping against it's will for twelve hours.

When The Who finally took the stage, it was jammed with photographers and the camera crew from the movie Michael Wadleigh was making of the weekends events. Townshend kicked the first camera man he saw (it happened to be Wadleigh, though Pete didn't know it) into the photographers pit, a good ten foot drop. The others scattered like moneychangers from the temple.

The Who were playing Pinball Wizard when Abbie Hoffman, the Yippie [I]provocateur[/I], took the stage and seized a microphone. Hoffman was crazed on LSD and had decided that he must make a speech protesting the ten year sentence of his crony, the White Panther Party leader John Sinclair, for charges of possessing two joints of marijuana. "I think this is a pile of sh[COLOR=WHITE]it[/COLOR] while John Sinclair rots in prison," Hoffman shouted into the microphone.

That was as far as he got. Townshend put one of his Dr. Marten boots squarely into Hoffman's a[COLOR=WHITE]ss[/COLOR], swatted him with his Gibson SG and, as the Yippie fell into the photographers pit, played on. Hoffman screamed unheard curses into the gale of the music, then ran over a hill and out of sight, clear back to Manhattan. Townshend later described kicking Abbie's a[COLOR=White]ss[/COLOR] as "the most political thing I ever did."

The Who played a ragged set, everybody fighting against the drugs, lack of sleep and thier anger that they had been put into such an absurd position in the first place. But as they were finishing, with "We're Not Gonna Take It," Roger's last cries of "See me, feel me, touch me, heal me" echoing over the hills, the sun burst up over the horizon, dazzling the crowd. "It was just incredible," Townshend said. "I really felt we didn't deserve it, in a way." But even if it was a lousy show by The Who's high standards--Daltrey called it "the worst gig we ever played"--it was legendary in the morning.

I love that story :thumb:

JohnXDoe 06-03-2005 06:06 AM

Excerpted from Moon: The Life and Death of a Rock Legend. By Tony Fletcher.

That Kieth Moon was the perfect drummer for The Who has never been questioned. Until he joined them The Who had ambition, they had some kind of vision, they had a sizable amount of talent, but the machine was missing an engine. In the Truly Great Band, the sum is always worth more then it's individual parts. But in The Who's case, one is left wondering just how much less than a great band they were before Kieth joined. Half? A quarter? His addition certainly made for an exponential, not equivalent, improvement, and it ought to go without saying The Who could of never become The Who of legend without Kieth Moon, just as the drummer could of never become the Kieth Moon of legend without The Who. The two entities just didn't need each other, they [I]belonged[/I] to each other.

LedZeppelin173 06-03-2005 10:00 AM

awesome FA lunch. i was listening to quadrophenia last night on vynal, and its really great. a very detailed FA, nicely done. im actually listening to who's next right now, getting in tune. one of the best albums EVER IMO. :thumb:


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