It depends how you look at it.

SCIENCE and Fungus Amungus are my favourites, but I think Morning View is the most musical of all their CD's with Dirk, then Make Yourself.

Face it ACLOTM is just a great example of why dirk should of stayed :thumb: I hate that album except a couple of songs.

Most of them the drums have changed a lot and arent as technical and they werent that technical but they are getting into punk beats almost :(

Edit: Btw I put those two albums because I have both of them and I haven't heard all of the songs on the Science/Fungus. What are the best listens?

Just because it's not as technical, doesn't mean it's not as good.

I'm getting a bit tired of fans bagging Dirk and even the rest of the band because they're afraid to let them grow as musicians. (Not that you were directly saying that).

If you watch the Live at Red Rocks DVD, you'll see that Jose, and the rest of the guys, do indeed still have the technical ability, and then some.

SCIENCE faves of mine are: Circles and A certain shade of green.
Fungus: Medium, Speak Free (Nice little bass line), You will be a hot dancer, psychosilocybin (Nice little bass solo thing too), Trouble in 421, Shaft, Take me to your leader, Sink beneath the line, Hilikus, the answer... wait, that's the whole album :p

I do find, that as 'cool' as Fungus is, I can listen to Make Yourself and Morning View over and over again more, where I tire easily of fungus after a while.

[QUOTE=popinfresh]Just because it's not as technical, doesn't mean it's not as good.

I'm getting a bit tired of fans bagging Dirk and even the rest of the band because they're afraid to let them grow as musicians. (Not that you were directly saying that).

If you watch the Live at Red Rocks DVD, you'll see that Jose, and the rest of the guys, do indeed still have the technical ability, and then some.

SCIENCE faves of mine are: Circles and A certain shade of green.
Fungus: Medium, Speak Free (Nice little bass line), You will be a hot dancer, psychosilocybin (Nice little bass solo thing too), Trouble in 421, Shaft, Take me to your leader, Sink beneath the line, Hilikus, the answer... wait, that's the whole album :p

I do find, that as 'cool' as Fungus is, I can listen to Make Yourself and Morning View over and over again more, where I tire easily of fungus after a while.[/QUOTE]
I meant with the technical thing like umm it just got too simple if you know what I mean (you won't)

I love Sink beneath the line. So thats where all their funky stuff has been hiding :wave: < found ya :thumb:

[QUOTE=popinfresh]And Incubus ARN'T re-recording Fungus with Ben. The whole point of getting him was to take a new direction. The cut of line was before S.C.I.E.N.C.E and they usually only rarely play certain shade of green with ben (Kind of sucks).

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i saw incubus with ben kenney last year and they played vitimin, certain shade of green, idiot box and anti-gravity love song (summer romance) so they play a few off s.c.i.e.n.c.e every now and then at least.

ooh and they played take me to your leader at one of there other shows they did in the UK

coz brandon boyd would put his shirt on

Re-recording Fungus Amongus with Ben Kenney would be an absolute crime, I'm glad that's only a rumor. Ben Kenney is good for his style, but I would choose Dirk over him any day...

[QUOTE=popinfresh]Just because it's not as technical, doesn't mean it's not as good.

I'm getting a bit tired of fans bagging Dirk and even the rest of the band because they're afraid to let them grow as musicians. (Not that you were directly saying that).

If you watch the Live at Red Rocks DVD, you'll see that Jose, and the rest of the guys, do indeed still have the technical ability, and then some.

[B]SCIENCE faves of mine are: Circles and A certain shade of green[/B].
Fungus: Medium, Speak Free (Nice little bass line), You will be a hot dancer, psychosilocybin (Nice little bass solo thing too), Trouble in 421, Shaft, Take me to your leader, Sink beneath the line, Hilikus, the answer... wait, that's the whole album :p

I do find, that as 'cool' as Fungus is, I can listen to Make Yourself and Morning View over and over again more, where I tire easily of fungus after a while.[/QUOTE]

?... Circles is on Morning View.. not SCIENCE? but speaking of Science, i like Redefine and the anti-gravity love song (forget other name thing for it)....

the red rocks DVD is good, it gave me more respect for Ben... and the guys are definately still techincal and everything... (Mikes solo during Sick Sad Little World)

im curious if Dirk is still part of Stickman? haven't heard anything for a long time now... the whole politician thing is silly. wow.. haha.

-sixner

stop being such a twat
 

[QUOTE=Daywalker]Re-recording Fungus Amongus with Ben Kenney would be an absolute crime, I'm glad that's only a rumor. Ben Kenney is good for his style, but I would choose Dirk over him any day...[/QUOTE]
why the f*ck would you choose ben over dirk ?
why be such a twat !
dirk is one of the greatest bass players of modern times along with such greats as doug wimbish / noel redding / jack bruce / geezer butler / les claypool - he is a great player and i dont care what anyone says a crow left with the muder is the crappest album written by incubus ever - i will never buy anything that does not have dirk on it not becuase i am some sad fanatic becuase i belivethat the directiont hey are taking now is just plain wrong there are too many of these " alternative " bands around incubus were orginal ! there was nothing around @ that time that measured up to them and with ben kenny they are nothing just another talented band making $hit music

Hey maseyrevo, I'm guessin english is not your first language? Did you fully read my post? You quoted what I said, and yet you still fugged it up. Re-read the last line you MORON, and think about who the TWAT really is...

^^:lol:...

I prefer Dirk to Ben, that's just what it is - preference. I have equal respect for both of them, doing what they do, and they both have very distinct styles so to compare them both is a bit stupid IMO.

[QUOTE=Daywalker]Hey maseyrevo, I'm guessin english is not your first language? Did you fully read my post? You quoted what I said, and yet you still fugged it up. Re-read the last line you MORON, and think about who the TWAT really is...[/QUOTE]
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oh yeah sorry about kinda had a homer moment - it's just that i used to be so passionate about incubus's music and dirk bass playing - dirk leaving just kinda fu*ked everything up for me ! sorrya bout the abusive language and all

it's just god............... i hate fu*king ben kenny man!

It's cool, we all have our moments...

man................just been litsening to dread living colour live album ... jeez doug wimbish man you all better check his bass playing out of you have never heard his stuff - man he is a beast !! - just makes you want to buy that warwick thumb evn more .......
- **** the ****ing eurovision is on - turn the ****ing tv off...............no i have surcome to the ****ty euro drum beats and over the top dancing - hold up the guys are kinda like rhcp - anyone else watching this **** ?

[QUOTE=mojoman0]so i guess i never really figured out why Dirk Lance left Incubus.. was it his choice or did they not want him anymore or what?? anyways..anyone hear the rumor that incubus is rerecording Fungus Amongus with Ben Kenney?? hell yea![/QUOTE]

he left because you touch yourself at night

Incubus=crap
 

Incubus has degenerated into a bunch of whiny pop-rockers. I used to spin SCIENCE at parties and eveeryone would be down; now when I listen to their new crap I wanna fall asleep standing up. Anyone notice that when they booted Lyfe their style just went straight down hill? And ditching Jim Wirt and Terry Date after SCIENCE was a horrid artistic decision. Those two (especially Wirt) were like Bill Bilichik to the Pats. Amazing band with them, average without. I guess producers DO matter! O well we'll always have their old albums....(sigh)

he proably realized how much they fu.cking suck.

Ben is a good bassist but he cant play Dirks lines so he tries to make his own to certain shade of green and other songs from science and they really dont compare to Dirks.

Im still crossing my fingers that dirk will start a new band

[QUOTE=maseyrevo]man................just been litsening to dread living colour live album ... jeez doug wimbish man you all better check his bass playing out of you have never heard his stuff - man he is a beast !! - just makes you want to buy that warwick thumb evn more .......
- **** the ****ing eurovision is on - turn the ****ing tv off...............no i have surcome to the ****ty euro drum beats and over the top dancing - hold up the guys are kinda like rhcp - anyone else watching this **** ?[/QUOTE]


well **** MX, i think we found someone who cusses more then me... shiiit...

but I like Ben over Dirk,
they have two totally different styles. Ben is more melodic, you can really tell he plays guitar, while dirk is more rhytmic, but that doesnt mean Ben cant Groove and Dirk cant write a melody, because they both can.

I dont find many of Dirk or Bens lines hard to play, but i enjoy playing Bens lines alot more, Ben is actually my favorite bassplayer, but im a more groove oriented bassplayer, but im still in my infancy, so things can change.

ACLOM shows alot of growth for the band, it might not make sense when you just hear the album but if you watch the DVD it really hits you if it hadnt before, Incubus is pretty **** dope, and Ben fits in well.

Ben is a great musician, listen to his solo album if you dont believe it, he's Playing in 3 bands at once + solo stuff, he's a very buisy and very talented man, and im sick of people dogging him because he doesnt slap, slappings not the end all. theres more before, and more after it then there is during it, and people tend to forget that.

If he was as good of a bass player as Dirk he would be able to play the bassline from 'Certain Shade'...but it is hard to play. And Dirk wasn't a slappy only. Listen to SCIENCE with the bass up.

[QUOTE=WayneGibbous]If he was as good of a bass player as Dirk he would be able to play the bassline from 'Certain Shade'...but it is hard to play. And Dirk wasn't a slappy only. Listen to SCIENCE with the bass up.[/QUOTE]


Why are you trying to make this, Dirk vs Ben, when its not.

If Incubus believes Ben Kenney is their Man, then he is their man, Dirk lance is not, why are you whining about something you have no control over.

The fact of the matter is Ben Kenney is Incubus's Bassplayer, like it or not, you dont have to listen, Ben is more then a bassplayer, but when does play bass his style is different then dirks, so you cant even compare them.

its stupid when people think ben is worse than dirk just because he doesnt slap.

ben kenney had added his own touch to dirks basslines and has given the songs a different feel, i like what he has done with them, i also like what dirk did, its just a different approach to the basslines.

[QUOTE=museic]its stupid when people think ben is worse than dirk just because he doesnt slap.

ben kenney had added his own touch to dirks basslines and has given the songs a different feel, i like what he has done with them, i also like what dirk did, its just a different approach to the basslines.[/QUOTE]

Exactly

This thread was much quieter when I thought Dirk was dead...

couldnt aggree with you more s.c.i.n.c.e is a great album if you are into your funk bass lines great album to learn from - and i cant wait for dirl to start a new band either !!

wish i could spell
s.c.i.e.n.c.e

^^ I wish you could use the edit function :rolleyes:

i can use the edit funktion i am just too fhucking lazy !!

Oi, another...

he didint go into politics, he is part of stickman entertainment. [url]http://www.stickman.tv/[/url] He left due to problems with him and brandon + some probable musical differences. IMO, i dont think dirk would go for the new style they've turned to... they're not re-recording fungus amungus with ben... thats silly :lol:.

* oh, as for the dirk Vs. ben thing.. IMO, dirk is funkier and has my rythem and groove.. which does fit their old style better. But with the new style, Ben's more harmonical style fits this new stuff. Just becuase he used to play guitar for another band, doesnt mean he cant play bass?.. it makes him that much more experienced. personally, i think that ben adds nice new flavor to the band.. his variations of finger + pick playing is neat. If you dont like ben, i suggest you pick up Alive at the Red Rocks DVD... that changed my view on Ben..
dont get me wrong, i love dirk. He's why i play bass. Listening to SCIENCE got me inspired... i miss the old stuff. But times change. :thumb:
-sixner

[QUOTE=sixner]Oi, another...

he didint go into politics, he is part of stickman entertainment. [url]http://www.stickman.tv/[/url] He left due to problems with him and brandon + some probable musical differences. IMO, i dont think dirk would go for the new style they've turned to... they're not re-recording fungus amungus with ben... thats silly :lol:.

* oh, as for the dirk Vs. ben thing.. IMO, dirk is funkier and has my rythem and groove.. which does fit their old style better. But with the new style, Ben's more harmonical style fits this new stuff. Just becuase he used to play guitar for another band, doesnt mean he cant play bass?.. it makes him that much more experienced. personally, i think that ben adds nice new flavor to the band.. his variations of finger + pick playing is neat. If you dont like ben, i suggest you pick up Alive at the Red Rocks DVD... that changed my view on Ben..
dont get me wrong, i love dirk. He's why i play bass. Listening to SCIENCE got me inspired... i miss the old stuff. But times change. :thumb:
-sixner[/QUOTE]


man thats exactly my type of thinking too - the reason i picked up bass was becuase of the liquid grooves on science - that stuff was just so cool and funky man - yes truth be told i have litsened to ben kenny a bit more since i lasted posted a thread - and i admit hes an ok player but as a few poeple have said he just doest add that extra sonic levle to the music that dirk used to bring - he dont groove - but i will say one thing that little fill that ben does in that strange hitler video is quite nice -

but to put it plainly dirk :thumb: ben :(