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From What Ive Heard Hes Wicked On Just One Pedal And also i Love his drum set up
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[QUOTE=Drummer-Ross-C]From What Ive Heard Hes Wicked On Just One Pedal And also i Love his drum set up[/QUOTE]
123.. I just rewatched Rock in Rio, and his single bass skill is just mad. And I love his kit, it sounded amazing on RiR, but when (if) I see Maiden live, I'd never be able to see him.. He's completely hidden by his kit. |
hm, I dont want to brag or anything, but I can play Face in the Sand on single pedal. sure, it isnt as tight as Nicko playing single pedal on Wicker Man or Ghost of the Navigator, but my single bassing just isnt as good as his. I would think Nicko was able to play that on single pedal? hm, well anyway, he still is one of my favourite drummers, and my biggest influence in drumming.
the only song on which the speed really dazzles me is Dream of Mirrors. in the middle, faster part, he plays 16th doubles on the single pedal, and he takes it up to an insane (!) speed. that is about the only song on which the single bassing REALLY is too fast for me to be able to play it tight. <The other thing you notice about him is that his sound is awfully consistant (especially on Rock in Rio), so if you know anything about sound technology you can probably tell that there is some heavy noise gate/compressor work here, whcih evens out the strokes.> I noticed something like that before. I noticed that Nicko isnt able to play soft notes on his bass drum, his bass drum stays on the same volume during the entire Rock in Rio dvd. |
here it is i knew i saw it someware and had to put this up to end this
Strangely, unlike most heavy metal drummers, McBrain has refused to use a double bass drum, since he considers it to be "too complicated", and "un-drummerish". Instead, he has developed an incredibly fast technique on the single bass drum, following Steve Harris' gallops with no problem whatsoever. The first (and last) song Nicko McBrain recorded using a double bass drum was "Face in the Sand," on the Dance of Death album, 2003.As Nicko could not grasp the technique of the double bass pedal the track ended up being pro tooled. One of his feet was going faster than the other. He subsequently announced publicly that it had been one of the hardest things he had ever had to play and that, for that reason, the number would not be included in the track list of the Dance of Death World Tour. On this album Nicko McBrain also contributed, for the first time in Iron Maiden history, to the songwriting, writing the bass line for the song "New Frontier." here is the web site this i from here: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicko_McBrain[/url] i beleve thats a very reliable page i use it for home work all the time |
Last time i heard, he used an elongated pedal, where there is a plate at the heel section you can press down to make a second beater move. But after reading what this forum says, it seems thats probably not true.
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Nope he just uses a tightened DW 5000(tight as he can get it). To Zero99, rubbish if you'd seen him in clinic he played the double bass part from face in the sand perfectly. He just prefers to use one bass drum, like he prefers never to record or play with a metronome.
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The part I don't like is where he doesn't use the DP for not using the DP. as if he has some award to win.
If it makes the song better, it makes the song better. And that's a **** excuse IMO to excuse a song from a tour ( Well I was using a double pedal so uhh ). |
I almost fell off my chair when they got to the "Your time will come" bit in Wicker Man and I heard the footwork in that :eek:
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Its great to learn that sorta footwork coz then you can use open and close hats as well(if you want)
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"Dream of Mirrors" hasn't been mentioned yet. I think it's a fantastic demonstration of how good his right foot is.
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[QUOTE=rik]"Dream of Mirrors" hasn't been mentioned yet. I think it's a fantastic demonstration of how good his right foot is.[/QUOTE]That's true, but most people listen to the soft beginning and don't see it to the full 9 minutes.
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out of the silent planet chorus ftw
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Well, they should. It's an amazing song, probably in my top ten Maiden songs.
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It is a great song nothing beats Where Eagles Dare that is a great song
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Don't know if any or all of this has been said yet. I attended a Nicko clinic on the Premier Roadshow last year and these are the facts about his bassery:
1. He uses single kick because he finds it easier: he only sees using 2 bass pedals as complicating things. 2. He used a double bass pedal on "Face in the Sand" off the Dance of Death album. He admits it's the only drum part he ever "cheated" on - the slave pedal had to be made a lot louder in the mixing process because there was such a dynamic inbalance in his double bass playing. For Nicko's best footwork IMO, check out Dream of Mirrors and The Wickerman. ~~ |
[QUOTE=rik]"Dream of Mirrors" hasn't been mentioned yet. I think it's a fantastic demonstration of how good his right foot is.[/QUOTE]
I'm listening to it right now. The part sounds ****ing awesome, but it's not really that complicated. It's just [FONT="Courier New"] R|o---o---o---o---|o S|----o-------o---|- B|--oo--oo--oo--oo|- ||1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a [/FONT] The chorus in Out of the Silent Planet is pretty much the same beat. It's clever - putting the bass on "+ a" gives it the gallop feel only using doubles. Obviously damn hard to keep up at that pace for as long as he does, but in the end it's not really that tricky. |
What album is "Where Eagles Dare" on?
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Piece of Mind.
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Wow! No one mentioned "Caught Somewhere in Time"!?!?!?!?
Fast single pedal gallops ftw! |
I've onlyread the first couple posts, but is the evil that men do with a single pedal?
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[QUOTE=Dannyboy15]Yes, its single bass on the wicker man.
I read somewhere that he used a double bass pedal on the DoD album.[/QUOTE] He used it. Hated it. Then said he'd never use it again. And Clive Burr didnt even have double kicks let alone play doubles (from my knowledge anyway) |
[QUOTE=LiquidTensionTheatre]Don't know if any or all of this has been said yet. I attended a Nicko clinic on the Premier Roadshow last year and these are the facts about his bassery:
1. He uses single kick because he finds it easier: he only sees using 2 bass pedals as complicating things. 2. He used a double bass pedal on "Face in the Sand" off the Dance of Death album. He admits it's the only drum part he ever "cheated" on - the slave pedal had to be made a lot louder in the mixing process because there was such a dynamic inbalance in his double bass playing. For Nicko's best footwork IMO, check out Dream of Mirrors and The Wickerman. ~~[/QUOTE] which part in wicker man? |
Nicko McBrian + Single bass pedal = Great and unique Dumming
Nicko McBrian + DB pedal = major disaster And btw which part of wicker man. Thank you for your time. |
A double pedal is not cheating. I only really wanted a double pedal, because of my theory that: if I can play every drum with two hands, then why the hell should I not have the option of playing my bass [B]drum[/B] with two feet.
I still suck at double bass. |
[QUOTE=alexmonty12]I almost fell off my chair when they got to the "Your time will come" bit in Wicker Man and I heard the footwork in that :eek:[/QUOTE]
well i did fall off my chair when i heard it. almost hit my head and cracked it open on my fire place(again), and spilled Coke all over the carpet. my parents didn't appreciate that much. i've recently been thrown into an Iron Maiden obsession and it ain't goin' away anytime soon. i just started learnin' some tunes the other day, jesus i love Nicko. i gotta say though, double pedal or not, i love the new album, i think Paschendale might be one of my all time favorite songs. ever. this may seem like a stupid question but does any one know what foot technique Nicko uses? |
Dream Of Mirrors
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[QUOTE=PainKiller8191]^I don't like that album...haven't heard alot of it
about the single bass pedal...thats pretty ****ing awesome...i used to play drums i wouldnt get anywhere near that with one foot...i guess thats why i didnt play for maiden eh? :chug:[/QUOTE] Its on the same cd as wicker man, I think I still have it(or let a friend borrow it) I think its Brave New World, I remember it was blue and pretty new. Yeah thats it. Great CD, different but great |
yep, Wickerman is on Brave New World
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Mmmm, iron maiden. mmm, earls court, 22nd december. Mmmm, nicko mcbrain
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[QUOTE=Real live junkie]And btw which part of wicker man.[/QUOTE]
The two notable bass parts in the Wickerman are the Chorus (constant 16ths at a good tempo) and some intricacies in the verse, where he uses pretty much lightning-speed doubles before snare hits. As he would describe it... *dagaDA!* What a guy. Can't wait till December... Seeing them again =) And Dragonforce the week before :cool: ~~ |
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