there was definitely no need to bump a thread this old.

Fine, I take it back :(

Congratulations on your future purchase, but you're a few months late in explaining this when it was actually relevent.

And welcome to the forums. :p

Edit - [QUOTE=rockdrummer7]I've read some pretty interesting yet sorted views on this particular series and maker in general. What's the general consensus in here on what kit is the most dominant to you guys? DW, Yamaha, Tama, what? Somebody explain it to me?[/QUOTE]

I believe the most recommended kit on the forum is the Sonor 3005, Sonors have a great reputation on this forum. I personally use a Premier.

For example, I have a Tama Starclassic Performer Fusion 6 piece (no snare), 100% birch kit. The kick sounds great, the 12 sounds good, the 14" sounds alright but everything else, no matter how easy the kit is to tune, sounds bad. Like it's empty. So what does that say to you Tama guys?

I guess what I'm getting at by asking you to defend the kits that you play is this, it boils down to what kind of experience you have under your belt. Are you novices or experienced musicians?

Sonor huh? Well, let's look at this from the best for your buck overall cost to the consumer. Where is Sonor made? Why does it cost sooo much? Why can't you get the same thing here in the states (so to speak)?

Sonor is a good company i won't deny that, however what about ordering parts, hardware design, mounting design? These are things that should also be taken into consideration as well as sound quality and tone. Don't you think?

Anyone care to answer?

not when you quadruple post.

EDIT: In a matter of 19 minutes.

[QUOTE]Sonor huh? Well, let's look at this from the best for your buck overall cost to the consumer. Where is Sonor made? Why does it cost sooo much? Why can't you get the same thing here in the states (so to speak)?[/QUOTE] 3005s are made in china, correct me if im wrong. Force 3005's are actually really cheap for the quality you get.

[QUOTE]Sonor is a good company i won't deny that, however what about ordering parts, hardware design, mounting design? These are things that should also be taken into consideration as well as sound quality and tone. Don't you think?[/QUOTE] The hardware From sonor is sturdy as hell. I called a local drum shop, they have no problem getting any parts in for a sonor.

As far as sound quality goes, Compare any other kit in the 1000 dollar range to a sonor 3005.

Well, $1000 range, umm, how about a SMX or BRX (Pearl)?

I didn't know that posting so many comments so far was an issue? I can't help it if I have a lot to say and type really fast!

There's an edit button for a reason. Anyway I'm pretty sure this thread'll be closed soon, DBJ is online.

[QUOTE]Well, $1000 range, umm, how about a SMX or BRX (Pearl)?[/QUOTE]The SMX does compare sound wise. As far as hardware goes I like the optimount system (Which I believe is on both of the kits you mentioned) But I would take sonors hardware anyday over pearls.


The BRX are 6 ply Birch (Im not sure how many plies but I think 6) But the sound fundamentals of the 2 drums will be completely different, So bringing up this drum was completely irrelavent.

EDIT To Postman: Why close it? He brought up a valid point, that was his opinion.

I don't deny that, but its just that most of the time old threads that get brought back from the dead get closed.

OK then, instead of using Pearl as an example, how about Yamaha's stage custom kit?

I mean look, I'm on here because the talk about the reference kit (which is what drew me in anyway). So now we've gotten off of that, cool, but it seems that some people in here "don't" like to really talk drums. That's the only reason I joined this thing.

[QUOTE]OK then, instead of using Pearl as an example, how about Yamaha's stage custom kit?[/QUOTE] Your point is irrelavent. They are Birch, and mahogony. Yammies are great drums (Especially there higher end) But there is no drum IMO the can keep up with the Force 3005, Thats' cost is in the 1000 range.

But, I have played the stage customs in fusion sizes, They were very cold sounding to my ear.

So you're looking at 100% maple kits then?

In that case there's the Ayotte custom kit, Taye's Studio Maple, Premier's maple series, Tama's Starclassic and many others that aren't mainstream kits.

Oh yeah, about the fusion size thing. It sounded cold because you can't always get the great tone out of a fusion tom (floor) versus an actual floor tom that stands independantly. 2 of my 3 kits are fusion kits and they don't have nearly the clear sound that my standard kit has.

[QUOTE]In that case there's the Ayotte custom kit, Taye's Studio Maple, Premier's maple series, Tama's Starclassic and many others that aren't mainstream kits.[/QUOTE] None of those kits are under two grand let alone one grand.

And yes, I was comparing Maple to Maple. Seeing as you were speaking of the force 3005...

Maybe you are correct that the BRX is the best Birch kit for the price, but doing so by acting arrogantly about it makes you seem like a twelve year old.

Ive seen them in person. Who wants to touch me?

My good GOD. Are all of that guys 14 posts ALL in this thread? *edit* your posts buddy, it cleans it up and makes it easier for us to read...

As far as kit preferences, my favorite drums are DW, Sonor, and Yamaha. I don't like Pearl as a company, or Tama.

[QUOTE]My good GOD. Are all of that guys 14 posts ALL in this thread? *edit* your posts buddy, it cleans it up and makes it easier for us to read...[/QUOTE]He is new, it's expected.

[QUOTE]As far as kit preferences, my favorite drums are DW, Sonor, and Yamaha. I don't like Pearl as a company, or Tama.[/QUOTE] I actually really like pearl, Those MMX make me happy :)

(I didn't say there thrones were good ;) )

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Ive seen them in person. Who wants to touch me?[/QUOTE]

so, ive played them in person.

I was really disappointed too. although they are good drums, they are WAY overpriced.

as for you 3005-SMX/other maple kits in that range, its all in the tuning. there are too many people here who lick Sonors corperate as[SIZE="2"]s[/SIZE] because they READ about how good sonors are on here, but never try them. never play them, just read about them.

i'm sure if you did a side by side comparison between 3005s and any other intermediate level maple kit that had the same heads on with the same tensioning, you wouldn't notice too much of a difference between them.

The Sonor 3005s are the most reccomended in the mid range kits, but he was about to buy a referance, I thought? There is a bit of a discrepancy in quality. Very few people would reccomend a 3005 over a Referance.

My opinion, and what seems to be the opinion of many others on here, is that all really high end kits sound GREAT, but different, and its entirely personal preferance what you like. I was considering getting a Reference or Masters kit, along with DWs, Sonor Designers, and Yamaha Maple Customs. Eventually, after playing all the drums I could find, I setteled on the Gretsch USA Customs. No qualifiable reason, it just sounded best to me. If I had been a different player, I probably would have gone with a differnet set.

Whatever people!! i thought a message board was for messages or comments. I didn't know I was taking up your precious space, idiots!!

I do like Gretsch kits myself, even the Renown series is a high quality series with a good sound.

We were speaking in Price ranges, and what you get for the price.

[QUOTE]i'm sure if you did a side by side comparison between 3005s and any other intermediate level maple kit that had the same heads on with the same tensioning, you wouldn't notice too much of a difference between them.[/QUOTE]Besides the fact you will pay 500 bucks more.

I think you could have the same size drum from all intermediate priced maple kits...Pearl, Tama, Yamaha, Sonor, Pacific and whatever else. As long as they were all 100% maple kits with the same head same tension, they would sound different from drum to drum.

[QUOTE=rockdrummer7]I think you could have the same size drum from all intermediate priced maple kits...Pearl, Tama, Yamaha, Sonor, Pacific and whatever else. As long as they were all 100% maple kits with the same head same tension, they would sound different from drum to drum.[/QUOTE]

it would, but it wouldnt be a major difference that would make you love or hate it much more than any of the others.