hmm.. only prog im an fan of is Rush...

w00t Prog rules.

Floyd (!!!!!!!!!!!) Rush, Mars Volta, Dream Theater, Jethro Tull, Genesis, Marrillion it's all good :thumb:

Hi All,
I love prog and all of the bands listed I think would fall into that genre. I am currently working with some truely outstanding musicians on our own prog project. To write truely good prog music is very challanging. I have seen most of the bands listed above live, I even saw Jethro Tull at the Boston Garden in 1977, very good! I go see Dream Theater every time they come by Minneapolis, they are very impressive live.
TR

i think i like prog alltho im not shure i like rush, yes, primus, dream theater, king crimson, pink floyed, emerson lake and palmer, Genesis, frank zappa, tool, liquid tension experement and symphoney x. now as far as i know there all prog but im not shure, its such a hard genre to describe

[QUOTE=Low-B-Mundy]A few bands not listed

Genesis
ELP
Marillion
Spock's Beard
Who
GLASS HAMMER
CAMEL

more to come...............


and FYI I like all kinds of music ............... Okay NO RAP[/QUOTE]
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Wait, Mars Volta is considered Prog!

neal, i have to concede what I said yesterday, I guess I do listen to prog pretty regularly if the Mars Volta are prog.

I define prog as a lot of different styles. In some ways, I see alot of fusion like Jaco, the Flecktones and Return To Forever as prog. Same with Funkadelic's concept album.
Even stuff like the Dead and Phish (the Gamehendge saga) can sorta be prog rock.
I do consider Pink Floyd and Primus prog. Prog is usually music about society, the supernatural, transcendentalism, and non-conformity, and sometimes, just weird stuff.

I like Van Der Graff Generator, even though they're not really well known in America. Tool is definetely prog-metal, same with DT. Has anyone heard King's X? It's the guitarist and drummer from Platypus (John Myung's side project) plus this guy who plays 12-string bass. Yes, Tull, ELP, Crimson, the Moody Blues and Genesis defined prog in the 60s-70s.

Whereas most rock evolved from the Blues (The rolling Stones, Seger, Clapton), I think prog evolved from jazz elements and people like John Coltrane and Miles Davis, who broke the standard three- chord arrangement.)

A lot of people believe prog sorta died out in the late 70s-80s with punk, because, by that time, grittier music had begun to replace the self -indulgence of long prog rock songs. However, unlike some genres (disco), prog had staying power and appealed to various people who were into musical exploration (this is how we get DT, Tool, the Mars Volta and Primus). After all, a prog album (Dark Side of the Moon) was on the top of the charts for over a decade.

People don't like prog because its all about theatrics and imagery through their music. The vocals set the stage and act out the characters (Peter Gabriel) while the band illustrates the pictures, sometimes for 45 minutes on a single theme (how many prog rockers does it take to change a lightbulb? One, but it takes him about 10 minutes).
Others don't favor it because of stuff like loud, indulgent, weird solos (DT, Van Der Graff Generator, King Crimson, ELP), but true progheads simply eat the stuff up.

Keep on posting.

Low B Mundy, more info about Peter Gabriel, if you've been to his studio.
Also anyone whos seen prog shows, please inform me,


and, hey, If you don't like these kinds of threads , don't post in them, b/c you'll just be wasting your time.

[QUOTE=primus_55]exactly, who cares what sorta of music it is? its dammed good just the same :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Well, no one cares, but it doesn't hurt to just talk about it
:thumb:

[QUOTE=Sade]it pisses me off when people try to define all this crap with genre's, and eventually totally LOOSE the entire aspect of "music".

Maybe you havn't heard this enough-but seriously, it's getting to the point where people won't even bother with a band or artist because they don't fit they're "genre".

So for gods sake just listen to the **** shlt you think sounds good.

And for those of you who wanna say you wern't doing anything-good for you. I'm just talking out my a[I]s[/I]s anyways. haha[/QUOTE]


I value your opinion. I listen to all kinds of music and used to be a major rap fan. Now I've grown up, but my dad and I will still listen to Tupac. If you don't want to post, then don't bother those who do. :upset:

listen to evergrey...theyre a fantastic prog band. not too tecnhical but i love em.
necrophagist isnt prog either...and they are extremely talented but its way too technical, theres no heart behind the music it seems like.

And for the sake of convorsation-Mars Volta isn't prog. ...in the slightest.

I'm a member on ProgArchives, and hope to see you all there.

is it hard to register?

Well, my brother lsitens to Genesis. And the Mahavisnu Orchestra. And a few other bands. like Neurosis and Today Is The Day, who are about as apocalyptic as prog gets.

[QUOTE=Sade]And for the sake of convorsation-Mars Volta isn't prog. ...in the slightest.[/QUOTE]

All depends on your definition. It certainly holds all the hallmarks of prog in my opinion, and i know many many people in the alt/indie forum who consider them prog also... But at the end of the day it's all open to debate i guess...

[QUOTE=Sade]And for the sake of convorsation-Mars Volta isn't prog. ...in the slightest.[/QUOTE]
There new CD is haha... 30 minute song. One of the greatest songs ever.
Edit: To BV- Yeah MR bungle is messed. Like every song belong to a different genre :D
I especially like that song by them "sober" I think thats whats its called..

Listening to Starship Trooper right now! Meshuggah and Pig Destroyer would probably like to be seen as "prog metal" now, because they have both just released long songs [I by Meshuggah and natasha by PD]. So I guess they would say they were prog, but I would suggest that its simply to drum up a bit of interest.

If you all know that much about prog stuff...why dont you post an article about it in the "How to play X genre" Thread?

Here: [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274887&highlight=genre[/url]

(I wanted to write something about it but I was too tired after writing some of those articles)

Come on guys. Prog-rock and Prog-Metal to be done.

(read some of the articles already there if you have the time)

I'm actually in a sorta Progressive Death Metal band right now called Artificial Eternity. We have the low vocals and everything, but the music is very technical and different than what you would expect from DM. Also, I'm one of the only bassists I know in DM that uses a 6 string :D. Currently our longest song is a 11 minute thrash song called Iron Fist. The end is an amazingly technical part going into a 2 minute guitar solo, and then into a mini bass solo. I wish we could get some of our stuff online, but we can't record it yet.

I saw Rush in Milwaukee over the summer. Great show. For being around fifty years old those guys can play. The show was almost three hours long and they didn't seem to get tired.

I really would have liked to see King Crimson on one of their more recent tours but I never got the chance to. My dream Crimson show would be to see them play with John Wetton. I mean Tony Levin is great but something about Wetton just gets me.

[QUOTE=DuncTheToolaphile]There new CD is haha... 30 minute song. One of the greatest songs ever.
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Wait! Their new album is out!? Or is this just in the US or something?! Because i haven't seen it here!

I love rush, i can't say i'm a huge progger cos i don't know much, but i like what i've heard. Rush, Yes and stuff like that, a lot of the best bass is by proggers Geddy Lee, Chris Squire and stuff like that.

Neal, the new songs are on Kazaa for the Mars Volta album which is supposed to come out in march. There's a lot of fakes though, so be careful.

I strongly reccomend listening to Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, or The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway by Genesis, as Mike Rutherford is an excellent bassist.

Tony Levin isn't even playing with KC anymore (its now Fripp, Trey Gunn, Adrian Belew and Pat Massoletto). Wetton was with Uriah Heep for a long time, so I recommend them if you have a Wetton fetish. Greg Lake of ELP was KC's first bassist/lead singer. Check out 21st Century Schizoid Man for starters, as it had a great bassline.

3 Prog.Bands I really dig are Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater and Symphony X.

p.s. toast my KC picture in my avatar was almost the Larks' Tongue cover as well

[QUOTE=albinoblacksheep]3 Prog.Bands I really dig are Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater and Symphony X.[/QUOTE]

Just got my first Porcupine Tree CD last week .......... not bad ....still trying to get into the vocals. :thumb:

[QUOTE=Mitchell Royce]Neal, the new songs are on Kazaa for the Mars Volta album which is supposed to come out in march. There's a lot of fakes though, so be careful.[/QUOTE]

Hmmmmmmm i don't like kazaa, i'll just wait until March for it...

I think other things definitive of prog rock are the track lengths. Other than changing time signatures, changing keys often and all the other stuff typical of prog rock.

stuff that I didn't see mentioned that I dig---- Porcupine Tree ::edit:: nevermind it was clearly mentioned
TOOL (they are definately prog)
The Beatles (abbey road is a prog album)
Peter gabriel
some radiohead is prog(paranoid android is at least)

stuffed that was mentioned that I do like- King crimson (every line up)
Rush
Floyd (is definately prog)
primus, flying frog brigade, c2b3
Yes
dream theatre, liquid tension
Mr. Bungle, Secret chiefs 3 (bungle - patton)
LOVE LOVE LOVE OPETH LOVE LOVE


And while I love sigur ros, i must argue that they aren't very progressive at all. THey are more like shoegaze, a genre that is very slow but, ethereal and very trancey and repetive yet layered.

I've seen Rush, Jethro Tull nearly every year for about 8 years (they play Cropredy folk festival regularly, being kinda prog-folk).

I've heard Muse been described as prog rock... and have seen them about 3 times :D...

I also listen A Perfect Circle/Tool, Coheed and Cambria, Floyd, Brazil, Porcupine Tree, Peter Gabriel, early Genesis, ELO, the Mars Volta...