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RaTm_FaN 12-21-2004 12:10 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]well, it's kinder to do it now than later.[/QUOTE]
**** u

Syph 12-21-2004 12:11 PM

Is there a greatest hits or compliation album out there for Rage?

DonMancini 12-21-2004 12:12 PM

There's the live at san francisco grand auditorium which has songs off their various albums, but is not really a compilation.

Other than that, I've never heard of any.

NuGgEt123 12-21-2004 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=Syph]Is there a greatest hits or compliation album out there for Rage?[/QUOTE]

they have a live album.

anyway, what do you guys think is the best Morello solo?

RaTm_FaN 12-21-2004 12:13 PM

has anyone seen the battle for mexico city or whatever its called if so was it good?

RaTm_FaN 12-21-2004 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=NuGgEt123]
anyway, what do you guys think is the best Morello solo?[/QUOTE]
man testify is so cool but is so easy i would have to say know your enemy

Bartender 12-21-2004 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=RaTm_FaN]**** u[/QUOTE]

Please don't post like that.

NuGgEt123 12-21-2004 12:16 PM

yeah i'd say know your enemy too...great stuff

RaTm_FaN 12-21-2004 12:16 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Please don't post like that.[/QUOTE]
im sorry :upset:

munky_magik 12-21-2004 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=RaTm_FaN]**** u[/QUOTE]

was there any need for that? :confused:

RaTm_FaN 12-21-2004 12:20 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]was there any need for that? :confused:[/QUOTE]
no :(

DonMancini 12-21-2004 12:20 PM

[QUOTE=NuGgEt123]yeah i'd say know your enemy too...great stuff[/QUOTE]
Yeah, kicka[SIZE=2]s[/SIZE]s song.

Anyone see them playing it live in Mexico City? God I wish I was there. The crowd was going craazy, I've never seen anything like it.

RaTm_FaN 12-21-2004 12:22 PM

sounds totally bodacious

NuGgEt123 12-21-2004 12:23 PM

i only saw Freedom. Zach got so emotional...yeah it woulda been sweet to be there.

munky_magik 12-21-2004 12:23 PM

I don't think I've seen the live Mexico know your enemy, but whenever they played it live they always seemed to slow it way down

DonMancini 12-21-2004 12:27 PM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]I don't think I've seen the live Mexico know your enemy, but whenever they played it live they always seemed to slow it way down[/QUOTE]
Probably for the crowd's headbanging pleasure :p Idk, it's true that it was a few bpm slower, but it seemed ok anyway.

I don't like when they play Killing in the name live though, it's always sounded bad to me, especially the Woodstock performance. The only cool part was when they burned the flag :p

Bartender 12-21-2004 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=DonMancini]Yeah, kicka[SIZE=2]s[/SIZE]s song.

Anyone see them playing it live in Mexico City? God I wish I was there. The crowd was going craazy, I've never seen anything like it.[/QUOTE]

I haven't seen the Mexico City show (first-hand, or on DVD), but I rather like the Grand Olympic Auditorium DVD.

munky_magik 12-21-2004 12:34 PM

[QUOTE=DonMancini]Probably for the crowd's headbanging pleasure :p Idk, it's true that it was a few bpm slower, but it seemed ok anyway.[/QUOTE]

To me it jsut seemed to drag, and Tom looked pretty silly in the one I saw giving it everything he had when the sog was going so d[size=2]a[/size]mn slow :p

Actually I haven't seen that much live rage stuff. I think I'll go downlaod some right now

mattlewis53 12-21-2004 12:41 PM

[QUOTE]S-T is by far the best. If it only came with "Killin In tha Name Of" it would still be my favorite. I love that song.[/QUOTE]

Killing In The Name Of is the second track on the self-titled album....which is their best album.

albert_bass 12-21-2004 12:43 PM

Awesome band. The self-titled album is my favourite too but I love so many songs by them...The only thing I don't like is that they repeat the riffs so much. Pistol Grip Pump would be a great example, so they repeat themselves too much but I can't stop loving them

munky_magik 12-21-2004 12:45 PM

^^
I think he was saying that s/t would still be his favourite even if it only came with Killing In The Name.
And for the name of the song see DonMancini's mini-rant

EDIT: to mattlewis53

CaptainWaits 12-21-2004 12:48 PM

Self titled hands down.....then Evil Empire then Renegades.......and Battle of Los Angeles shouldn't of been released

RaTm_FaN 12-21-2004 12:53 PM

man i still dont understand how in gods name he does that i see him flickin his switch and stuff its so bad a s s

albert_bass 12-21-2004 12:54 PM

Testify! See it live it's awesome

ZaaR 12-21-2004 12:59 PM

I've only recently started liking RATM and my favorite songs have to be: Killing in the name of, Bomb Track, and No shelter. All wicked songs.

mordredozzy124 12-21-2004 12:59 PM

Self Titled is my favourite, but I really like Battle of Los Angles. Evil Empires pretty good too, but the only song that I like on Renegades is Renegades of Funk.

I do, however think that Tom Morello is a bit overrated. I mean hes good, but he mainly uses pedals and plays on one string something like 5555-2222-4444. People here on MX make fun of Kirk Hammet for using his wah pedals, but with Tom Morello, they worship him. And in my opinion, his best solo is on Like a Stone, by Audioslave, because that seems to flow well. His best riff, in my opinion is Guerilla Radio, which is classic.

munky_magik 12-21-2004 01:14 PM

Morello can shred. But chooses to create abstract solos instead which is why people admire him. When Hammett wah's you almost get the feeling that he is doing it becuase it's the done thing in guitar playing, and his wah is just slapped on top of an E minor pent. solo. Morello uses his wah creatively and in different instances which is why people like it.....well, at least that's what I think :p

DesolationRow 12-21-2004 01:18 PM

[QUOTE]Why did Zach leave again? I heard that it was because he realized that he was preaching people to revolt, and yet he had an army of fans ready to do anything he wanted them to do, and that went against his morals.[/QUOTE]
Zach left because he felt as though the band wasn't accomplishing as much as it could. For example, Mumia Abu Jamal is still in prison. Zach supported the Zapatista movement which is the uprising of militants in Mexico over lost land due to infringement of Constitution rights.
As for Rage reuniting, Morello is still quite active in political action and we all know how Zach always was fuelled by hipocrisy and political injustice. I'm not saying it's an impossibility, however unlikely.
But seeing how much Morello assists other artists, I'm not surprised if Morello and de la Rocha reunite within 5 or 10 years.
I'm going to say that Rage's self titled album was the best. It was heavier and more charged than any other album, although BoLA was a good result after Evil Empire.
Renegades was a cover album of influences. I'd say it's fine, especially the cover of "The Ghost of Tom Joad", originally by Springsteen. Morello's guitar work never ceases to amaze me.
Tom's best solo, I'd say, is probably the "Bullet in the Head" solo. The "Darkness" solo is nice and jazzy, though. Very nice work either way.
Tom does use primarily 99999 88888 77777 solos, but he uses effects so heavily that you can't tab a thing 100% accurate on their later songs. He is, however, quite capable of more than just 999999 888888 77777777.
I think Timmy C. is probably one of the most underrated bassists around. The opening on "Calm Like a Bomb" is very nice and smooth, similar to a verse of chorus by Flea of RHCP. "Bombtrack" has a great opening. Flea gets all the credit for awesomeness, but Tim deserves more than a few "Good work" critiques.
I think Hammet is overrated as guitarists go. I rarely hear any emotion from his solos. It's like a machine is playing them. Fast, yes, but it's too **** cold for me to care. My opinions are my own, however.
The live DVDs are worth the money.

RaTm_FaN 12-21-2004 02:30 PM

bump

EonBlueApocalypse 12-21-2004 04:34 PM

s/t is my favorite, closely followed by evil empire. i didn't like BOLS as much as the first two however.


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