Oh sweet theres a thread for my question... thats great cuz I really didn't wanna make a new thread and hog up crap :thumb: .. so anyway i'm new to the drummin' scene and i've been taking lessons for a couple months now and i'm gearin' up to buy a new kit and i'm trying not to spend over 300-400$ (American) so I was just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for good,durable kits to look out for? Also websites to check out would be kool too...Thanks :D

iv just ordered a premier artist birch standard sizes in sapphire shud be good
with premier 6000 hardware.

[QUOTE]=Der meister
Mapex Orion? thats one of their top kits! you can get one for less than 600 US? I think you mean V series.[/QUOTE]

naw, i checked it on music123.com, its 599.99US

go for the orion then!!!!!

tigerstripes and ken you two i think have the best kits on the forums

i use a pearl masters studio brx i love the reso on these drums great sounding kit, live sound amazing kick out a great loud vibrant sound. fantastic kit.

i wish i had the money...

^^^the orion is a professional kit. for 600 thats the bargain of the year!!!!!

well. haha, i was just only saying. seriously i dont think i can afford anything more than 1000CDN and that includes cymbals and everything, so that leaves about 700-800CDN for my kit. anyways, is yamaha rydeen better or pearl target?

[QUOTE=Sick-O]Oh sweet theres a thread for my question... thats great cuz I really didn't wanna make a new thread and hog up crap :thumb: .. so anyway i'm new to the drummin' scene and i've been taking lessons for a couple months now and i'm gearin' up to buy a new kit and i'm trying not to spend over 300-400$ (American) so I was just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for good,durable kits to look out for? Also websites to check out would be kool too...Thanks :D[/QUOTE]
[url]www.massmusic.net[/url]

I suggest saving up more or going second hand.

[QUOTE=tigerstripes]

here is pics
[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/oneroaddrums/DRUMS11-05-04.jpg[/url]
[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/oneroaddrums/drums411-05-04.jpg[/url]
[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/oneroaddrums/DRUMS210-05-04.jpg[/url]
[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/oneroaddrums/BIRDSEYE11-05-04.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]

Kinda reminds me of jordisons set-up.

tigerstripes....do you use the vruk pedal attatchment thing??? i saw it online somewhere and was thinking about getting one...is it any good??

I currently own a Tama swingstar 6 piece drumset (12,13,14,16 toms, 14 inch snare, 22 inch kick). It serves me well, but I am looking for a kit that gives me a decent, more recordable sound. I intend to get 2 bass drum, and 4 or 5 toms. (I play alot of extreme metal) What brands would you people suggest that would give me great quality for a reasonable price?

[QUOTE=infeef]for beginner/mid level kits you cannot top the MApex M/Pro M series. they are magnificent.[/QUOTE]

M/Pro M aren't beginner/mid level, wrong range.

MAPEX>
V = Beginner
M = Intermediate
Pro M = Intermediate-semi pro
Saturn = Semi Pro-Pro
Orion = Pro

or something very similar. That's the order they raise up in.


Regarding the Orion for $600...
It's an ORION ORBITER. It's not a real Orion set. If you read the description, it's the pretty much the exact same thing as the Pro M, with better finishes, they were testing out the all maple qualities. And it's a shell pack.

Review of my Pro M Studio set later.

[QUOTE=punkdrummer9787]well.... yea... all you need is a drum key and you'd just take the old heads off and put the new heads on and tune them.... if anyone wants to put a link up to the tuning bible thingy, i'm too lazy to go find it myself :D[/QUOTE]

Here's the link: [url=http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/index.html]The Drum Tunning Bible - By Prof Sound[/url]

I'll post my review on my Ludwig Accent Combo set as soon as I get some spare time. :cool:

Sonor 2003's Fusion Size

10,12,14 inch tom (ordering a 16 soon)
20x18 kick
14x5.5 wood snare

Paiste 502 Pack
14 hats 16 crash 20 ride

i cant say enough how good the quality is on sonor's low-end kits. with the right heads and tuning the drums sound close to professional quality. both of my cymbal stands toms on them now and are not bending.
plus you cant beat the woograin. :D

i wish i would have worried about cymbals more and got some better ones, but they sound decent enough for now ( saving up for some sig's :naughty: )


[URL=http://www.drumpix.com/showphoto.php?photo=1931&sort=1&cat=2&page=1]Drums 1[/URL]
[URL=http://www.drumpix.com/showphoto.php?photo=1930&sort=1&size=medium&cat=2&page=1]Drums 2[/URL]
[URL=http://www.drumpix.com/showphoto.php?photo=1928&sort=1&size=medium&cat=2&page=1]Drums 3[/URL]
[URL=http://www.drumpix.com/showphoto.php?photo=1929&sort=1&size=medium&cat=2&page=1]Drums 4[/URL]

[QUOTE=zildjiandrummer2]tigerstripes....do you use the vruk pedal attatchment thing??? i saw it online somewhere and was thinking about getting one...is it any good??[/QUOTE]

Vruk it has a technique all its own to use or you can play normal heel up with it on and have a nice footrest, which is what I do with it mostly, but I have worked with the technique a little but its not high on my priority list right now.

[QUOTE=pear.master.brx.punkster]tigerstripes and ken you two i think have the best kits on the forums[/QUOTE]

Dont forget about DBJ's killer beast.....

[QUOTE=Bass_N_Drums]Kinda reminds me of jordisons set-up.[/QUOTE]

the kit may remind you of Joey's but I dont play like him and I dont listen to his music(noise). And I definetly do not use Ahead cymbal killers....

Your a smart man, stay away from those cymbal spliters.

MAPEX PRO M 6 PIECE STUDIO *100% maple*
22x18 Bass
10x9, 12x10, 14x12, 16x14 Toms
14x5.5 Snare

Approx running cost:
$1200-$1300 (For 6 piece)

This kit is incredible. Simply amazing.
The bass drum is a cannon, blasting out. With a mic, it sounds incredible. Loud, deep, powerful, and if you need it and have good control, it can be soft as well.

The toms have a good range from size to size, and with the Mapex I.S.S. mounting system (and included tom stand for the 2 biggest toms), positioning them where you want them is a fairly simple task once you get familiar with how the thing works.

HARDWARE INCLUDED:
Mapex Performing Artist Series:
Hi-hat Stand
Straight Cymbal Stand
Boom Cymbal Stand
Double Tom Stand
(NO THRONE)

The stands are very durable. Double-braced, very thick yet not too heavy without being too light. Currently the boom is holding my 20" ride (switching it to the straight though) with no problems.


Overall this is a great GREAT second or even third kit, depends on where you started and your budget.
Absolutely amazing for the price, it feels like a full on pro kit without the price tag of one.

Unless the Orion Orbiter is some kind of knock off gimmick that they've attached the Orion Birdeye's name to I'm changing my recommendation to that. That's crazy.

From what I read up on it, the Orbiter is just a better looking Pro M.
[url]http://www.mapexdrums.com[/url]
Orion Birdseye and Birdseye Maple are all they mention there, no mention whatsoever of an Orbiter.

[url]http://www.music123.com/Mapex-Orion-Orbitor-5-Piece-Shell-Kit-i150503.music[/url]
That's the link he's referring to. $600 Orion Orbiter shell pack.

[quote="Music 123: Orion Orbiter: 'Product Overview & Specs'"]All the features and accents of Pro M
Mapex designed the Orion Orbitor to test market the all-maple Pro M Series, so it has all the features and accents of the Pro M, in limited edition finish colors - Aquamarine, Boston Pewter and Tobacco Fade. Hardware is sold separately. Only a handful of this limited edition models remain, so get yours while supplies last. [/quote]

AKA: Mapex Pro M with cooler looking finishes.
It's still not a bad buy, but it's not a full on Orion Birdseye.
[url]http://www.music123.com/Mapex-TBE6225-Orion-Classic-Birdseye-Maple-6-piece-i99464.music[/url]
THAT is a real Orion.

Wow, if I could get that Boston Pewter set in the studio sizes as mentioned by PowerStamp, I have found my new drums *jaw dropping*

[QUOTE=kriz14]Can I cheak something, what do you think of the New Yamaha Stage Custom Advantage Nouveau? I know it came out this year, but im not 100% on it.
It is around £549.99, and im looking at getting these sizes:
Bass Drum - 22''
Rack Toms - 10'' and 12'' (and a 8'' tom, but this is a extra £65.00)
Floor Tom - 16'' (with legs)
Snare Drum - 14'' x 5.5'' (it is wood, but i will be using my snare I ordered today)

Is that good value?
And I have read Richhunt's review of the old Stage Custom, and i was already planning to get new Skins for it anyway, but thanks for saying that the stook heads suck.
(I have a CB kit, and am looking at getting a 8'' and 10'' toms that is £139.99 if this kit gets a bad review)
And please dont say to me get a Peal Export kit, as im not a big fan of them at all.

So thanks in advance :thumb:[/QUOTE]

I find Yamaha to be a pretty safe brand for almost anything from drums to pianos to motorcycles ( although I wouldn't know :smash: )
I don't know what the stock heads on the toms sound like, cause I replaced them straight away. The snare is pretty decent, but a Remo coated ambassador is much better.

I have an 8" tom on mine and it's great, it's got an uneven amount of tuning lugs, which I don't know if that's generic across all 8" toms but it's a tad annoying, but you get over it very quickly :D.

It's a great kit, I admit, it's not the best ever, but that's granted considering it's not the most expensive kit ever :).

That kit you listed up there sounds pretty good for the price. I haven't really heard much about the Nouveu, but it's replacing my line of drums (Stage Custom Standard), or it's at least replacing the Advantage and the Advantage is replacing mine. Whatever.

They look gorgeous though I reckon.

[QUOTE=Vespa]The hi hat stand is very weak and cannot hold up my hi hats allowing them to drop slightly, this means a lack of control.[/QUOTE]

Am I the only one who has absolutely no problem with my yamaha hi hat stand?

Did they give the wrong one or something, because I absolutely love mine, it's smooth and sturdy and has greatly designed legs. Mine are in a leg shape so that they're not all even so I can easily fit in a double pedal, unlike the rockstar ones and man others which has even hi hat legs which (although it's a great pedal) make it hard to put the pedal in.

P.S. Sorry to double post.
:smash:

Sick-O, I would go for a tama stagestar. If you can afford it, a swingstar. Durability is something tama is seriosuly known for, much better than pearl

can someone please gimme clearer info on these?

pearl export
poplar shells n excellent shell construction(don't have the sizes i want)
how's the hardware?

tama rockstar
basswood and philippine mahogany, (have the sizes i want)
but how's the shell construction?
one of the most durable hardware around along with yamaha

i need more info on the pearl export and tama rockstar....umm...just answer some of the questions above....thanks a lot.....but if i'd just say there's a shootout between pearl export and tama rockstar....who'l win?...thanks once again

[QUOTE=RichHunt]Am I the only one who has absolutely no problem with my yamaha hi hat stand?

Did they give the wrong one or something, because I absolutely love mine, it's smooth and sturdy and has greatly designed legs. Mine are in a leg shape so that they're not all even so I can easily fit in a double pedal, unlike the rockstar ones and man others which has even hi hat legs which (although it's a great pedal) make it hard to put the pedal in.

P.S. Sorry to double post.
:smash:[/QUOTE]
yeah, mines nice and perfect too :chug:

[QUOTE=the_Outnumbered]can someone please gimme clearer info on these?

pearl export
poplar shells n excellent shell construction(don't have the sizes i want)
how's the hardware?

tama rockstar
basswood and philippine mahogany, (have the sizes i want)
but how's the shell construction?
one of the most durable hardware around along with yamaha

i need more info on the pearl export and tama rockstar....umm...just answer some of the questions above....thanks a lot.....but if i'd just say there's a shootout between pearl export and tama rockstar....who'l win?...thanks once again[/QUOTE]

Stock protone heads suck.

Rockstar is a good kit, I've found them to have a very mellow deep sound which a lot of people like.

Im looking for my first set. I have around 600 Cad to spend. What is the best set I can get for my Money

Also, I saw a Ludwig set (don't know the model), with cymbals, for 500$ cad. I havent tried it out yet, so what do you think, is it worth it?
thanks

im assuming that youre probably talking about the ludwig accent. loads of ppl have that kit, though im not sure if its really that good. i have 700CDN in my pocket and i still cant figure out which kit i should go for. *sighs*