yea well my teacher went to burkely

Josiah, which would think is better? A school where all you do is drum your time away, or a school where there's a bit of variety involved?

Personally, I prefer one with variety. I'd hate to come out only able to speak drums.

[QUOTE=RavEMasteR]Josiah, which would think is better? A school where all you do is drum your time away, or a school where there's a bit of variety involved?

Personally, I prefer one with variety. I'd hate to come out only able to speak drums.[/QUOTE]


Yes, I totally agree with you. Plus all that other stuff that you learn can translate to your drumming as well. Maybe not so much as if could if you played piano or guitar, but it also helps you become a more rounded musician and. If drum set is the only thing that you want to do. Thats fine, you can get a certificate or diploma, or just teach yourself the nessecities for that. If you like all forms of percussion (hand drums, mallets, aux stuff...blah blah) and would like to expand your music theory, composition, harmony, ear training, etc... then i think a degree based program is what you should be looking for.

It depends, different things are right for different people. Make the desicion that you think is best and right for you. Dont let other people tell you otherwise.

[QUOTE=RavEMasteR]Josiah, which would think is better? A school where all you do is drum your time away, or a school where there's a bit of variety involved?

Personally, I prefer one with variety. I'd hate to come out only able to speak drums.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but...

At a school dedicated to percussion, you're alot more likely to be doing things that are actually going to help you, as opposed to just a general music program with an emphasis on percussion. Go to full-time University and you'll be doing mostly Mallet and Marimba work, with minimal set-time. If that's your thing, then go for it...but if you want to be the next Portnoy or whatever the hell, you're probably going to be better off going to a more focused program.

Schools like the one Josiah went to typically will take less time to finish (didn't you only have to attend PIT for 2 years Jos?) and will be MUCH more focused on what you're probably going to want to be doing: playing the ****ing drums! If you still want to do other things, attend a full time college with a focus in some other field; for god's sake, you're going to want something to fall back on; music isn't exactly steady!

This was a large part of the reason why I became a history major instead of a music major. I go to a small liberal arts college. Our music program is superb, and in fact in some areas, it has one of the strongest music programs in the nation (our vocal performance majors are fabulous). However, I've known most of the drummers that go here, and alot of 'em really don't have much going on at all in terms of kit playing....monkey see, monkey do kinds of kids, really. There are a few who are pretty decent, but I think that a large part of that comes more from their own independent studies and whatever experiences that garnered before coming here. In the 4 years that I've been here, the best drummer I ever saw was, oddly enough, a history major.

So...if set is what you want to do, if you want to do session stuff, play in a band, do jazz gigs, etc...go to a music school like PIT or Berkeley.

"Josiah, which would think is better? A school where all you do is drum your time away, or a school where there's a bit of variety involved?"

Invalid question.

Neither is better, they are different.

Almost all (actually I can't think of one) school that is purely dedicated percussion does not have Music theory/harmony and ear training. That's 2 classes.

When I am going to spend $24,000 or whathave you to learn about drums, I WANT TO LEARN ABOUT DRUMS.

If you want to be well rounded, then pay $33 and go to a Juinor College or $2,000 and go to a University.

Berklee is a Jazz and Rock oriented college, it's main focus being Jazz. The focus isn't on playing really, but rather composing and theory. If you want to go to a college to learn how to play drums really good, Berklee isn't for you.

I plan to go to Berklee with Trombone as my primary instrument. Jazz is my life, and that's why I'm excited to attend this college.

Off topic, but, Blakey, where have you been? Ormaybe Im jsut having a memorylapse right now.

I want to become a really good drummer.I am playing drums for 4 years.My drums tutor says that I am better than others who are playing for 4 years too.Anyway I want to go to a school with frendly teachers to become a pro drummer and nothing else(no History lesson,maths or other musical instruments).
If I go to a shool like berkley, am I supposed to stay,eat in the university or I will have to rent a house nearby?
Suggest something that fits my needs(not very expensive schools because I am not a millioner)
If anyone knows any links for music schools, tell me.

Berklee is a private school, which means, chances are, you get your own housing. I hope someone can confirm this though.

Haha Berklee might have dorms now. You have to rent an apt or such nearby. Either way, schools charge for using dorms. I'm also positive Berklee does not have their own cafeteria so you're on your own for food.

Most of these type schools are going to run you up a nice bill. That's why they have loans.

"I want to go to a school with frendly teachers to become a pro drummer and nothing else(no History lesson,maths or other musical instruments)."

Don't go to Berklee School of Music then. Look into places like PIT or The Collective.

[QUOTE=Josiah]Haha Berklee might have dorms now. You have to rent an apt or such nearby. Either way, schools charge for using dorms. I'm also positive Berklee does not have their own cafeteria so you're on your own for food.

Most of these type schools are going to run you up a nice bill. That's why they have loans.

"I want to go to a school with frendly teachers to become a pro drummer and nothing else(no History lesson,maths or other musical instruments)."

Don't go to Berklee School of Music then. Look into places like PIT or The Collective.[/QUOTE]

Berklee has their own cafeteria, I've been in it last year. Unless they've changed it since.

Ah I didn't know that, I musta missed it when I was there.

Hmm...Does anyone know anything about drum tech in London. I wanted to go take the master performance course out there someday once i better my skills through college. Any info...???

Josiah, what's the requirements of going to PIT? Do they have their own dorms? What about equipment? Mind giving me a link to their site?

mi.edu

They don't have their own dorms. Requirenments to get in.. being able to play decently well. Requirenments to survive... well... you'll have to find out.

1. It's Berkl[u]EE[/u]. Berkeley is a UC school in San Francisco.

2. Whoever said Berklee is big was wrong. It's a TINY school.

3. There are small residence halls at Berklee, as well as apartments that you can rent nearby the school.

4. Berklee isn't a drumming school. If all you want to do is become a professional drummer, don't go to Berklee... you will end up dropping out and you'll be ruined. Go to a percussion school.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Yeah, but...

At a school dedicated to percussion, you're alot more likely to be doing things that are actually going to help you, as opposed to just a general music program with an emphasis on percussion. Go to full-time University and you'll be doing mostly Mallet and Marimba work, with minimal set-time. If that's your thing, then go for it...but if you want to be the next Portnoy or whatever the hell, you're probably going to be better off going to a more focused program.

.[/QUOTE]

You should think about what comes out of your head man. Let's see where did Mike Portnoy, a great ALL AROUND drummer, go to school.......mmmmm...
maybe Berklee. Yeah everyone if you want to be the next Mike Portnoy don't go where he went to learn percussion go somewhere else.

[QUOTE=sdmfinada]You should think about what comes out of your head man. Let's see where did Mike Portnoy, a great ALL AROUND drummer, go to school.......mmmmm...
maybe Berklee. Yeah everyone if you want to be the next Mike Portnoy don't go where he went to learn percussion go somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

That's the most retarded thing. No wonder berklee's rap is getting worse and worse, it has idiots like this to vouch for them.

All around drummer I don't know about, have you ever heard the guy try to swing? It's frightening.


Berklee is cold... I like my warmth. I also here it's in a fairly rough neighbor hood.

Here you go

[url]http://www.berklee.edu/pdf/tuition/tuition.pdf[/url]

**** expensive if you ask me.

Here is Julliard

Tuition, Fees, and Expenses


Student Budget
The estimated budget for a Juilliard student for the nine-month academic year 2004-05 is calculated as follows:
Tuition $22,850
Room and Board (residence hall and meal plan)
Double Room 9,030
Single Room 11,270
Subtotals
Double Room 31,880
Single Room 34,120
Books, Supplies, Personal Expenses 2,500
Totals
Double Room $34,380
Single Room $36,620

My band once got a guitarist who was studying a berklee... he was so good we moved him to vocals... but even that didnt help since his voice had no sense of tone either...

Listen to Josiah and Carn, they know what they're talking about. Berklee doesnt improve musicians, Either you're really good when you get in and you stay that way... or otherwise you get what happened in my band's case...

Berklee is very pricey.. considering half the classes are just normal Univeristy classses.. it's VERY pricey.

Go PIT, that's what I want to do.

I'm going to the Berklee summer camp in L.A., it's for three days and there are a bunch of classes that everybody takes, a few ensembles that you get placed in, and jam sessions every night. I'll tell you guys how it goes when it's over (it's not for another month or so).

[QUOTE=FuzzyDrummer]Go PIT, that's what I want to do.[/QUOTE]

I want to do that too... again though, I had so much fun the first time.


Brian do you know where the summer camp is held?

An older member of these forums did a Berklee summer camp that was at the school.

Yeah, it's held at Cal State Fullerton, a Berklee off-shoot.

Haha.. I have many friends that attend CSUF

You must live very close to me...

I live between San Diego and L.A.

Haha now there's a small chunk of land!

I'm Orange, just a few mins down the freeway from CSUF actually.

[QUOTE=Bryan Blakey]Berklee is a Jazz and Rock oriented college, it's main focus being Jazz. The focus isn't on playing really, but rather composing and theory. If you want to go to a college to learn how to play drums really good, Berklee isn't for you.

I plan to go to Berklee with Trombone as my primary instrument. Jazz is my life, and that's why I'm excited to attend this college.[/QUOTE]

I attended Berklee in 93/94. I can say from my experience there, that your focus as to playing verses composing, is totally up to you depending on your major. If you're a performance major your 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th semesters, you're required to study with two different teachers each week on your instrument of choice. Pluss you have to take performance ear training which is quite a bit different that the sight singing you do in the first four ear training classes. Pluss if you're there on scholarship like I was, you're required to perform in the project bands who perform and record student compositions. The type of project band you end up playing with is directly related to how long you've been at the school, and your skills on the instrument.

I know, it takes determination to keep going after the first four semesters. most do drop out before then like I did. And there are allot of theory classes you have to take at that time. But if you make past that point, it's all playing if you're a performance major.

[QUOTE=metallas]I want to become a really good drummer.I am playing drums for 4 years.My drums tutor says that I am better than others who are playing for 4 years too.Anyway I want to go to a school with frendly teachers to become a pro drummer and nothing else(no History lesson,maths or other musical instruments).
If I go to a shool like berkley, am I supposed to stay,eat in the university or I will have to rent a house nearby?
Suggest something that fits my needs(not very expensive schools because I am not a millioner)
If anyone knows any links for music schools, tell me.[/QUOTE]

Most of the jokers who replied to you have never attended Berklee, and don't know what their talking about. While I was attending They did have a huge cafateria, and if you where under the age of 21 you where required to live in the dorms. After that yo0u can live anywhere you want.