^ exactly

how do i keep the clarity in my voice after ive been screaming for 2 hours. usually after i scream/sing for 10-15min i get enough mucus worked up to coat my throat (im a very deep singer bass2 and i scream deep so mucus helps me where as it wouldnt help a falsetto singer). i dont play 2 hour shows its just my retarded guitarist who can get one take right when were recording and we have to do 30 takes at one song. anyways how do i prolong the time i can effectivley scream?

ok i have a question... so im a female and ive been trying to teach myself to scream but i wanted to know if there is any special technique or anything for girls? (because obviously the male vocal chords and voice box is lower and different.) i havent had any real problems with teaching myself, i just would like to know about this if anyone has any answers.

[QUOTE=LeDbOx]how do i keep the clarity in my voice after ive been screaming for 2 hours. usually after i scream/sing for 10-15min i get enough mucus worked up to coat my throat (im a very deep singer bass2 and i scream deep so mucus helps me where as it wouldnt help a falsetto singer). i dont play 2 hour shows its just my retarded guitarist who can get one take right when were recording and we have to do 30 takes at one song. anyways how do i prolong the time i can effectivley scream?[/QUOTE]
low frequency thick corded screaming for two hours? consider yourself lucky!

btw, the mucous comes because its trying to protect the damage that youre doing. remember that.

[QUOTE=bloodclotsandblackholes]ok i have a question... so im a female and ive been trying to teach myself to scream but i wanted to know if there is any special technique or anything for girls? (because obviously the male vocal chords and voice box is lower and different.) i havent had any real problems with teaching myself, i just would like to know about this if anyone has any answers.[/QUOTE]

There is no difference.

i have only recently started to scream. But i find the best way to be able to scream for long periods of time is to scream inwards. Now it may sound kinda weird but try it. You breathe in but limit it untill you make a "creaking noise" now do it faster and it starts to become a scream. Now do it louder and start prounouncing words. Its works for me and i can do it for about 3 hours straight with slightly sore throat the next morning.

Very good for long screams deep/high and even middle range screams. Prounounciation is difficult at first though. But still good for general "growling"

[QUOTE=Gremlin]since when was all screaming an Emo thing BassMan182? (One can only guess what the 182 stands for)

So Six Feet Under, Chimaira, Evergreen Terrace, As I Lay Dying, Machine Head, Mudvayne, Slipknot, 40 Below Summer, Pantera, Killswitch Engage....these are emo bands?
It doesn't all sound the same, you're just ignorant.[/QUOTE]


yea, you're up to date. that music has something in common - it's all sh*te

man i think you have too much time on your hands, why are you flaming on screaming boards when you hate screaming? If you don't like it then go read something you're actually interested in...

[QUOTE=BassMan182]yea, you're up to date. that music has something in common - it's all sh*te[/QUOTE]

This coming from a Blink 182 fan? You listen to 182 and then diss people for listening to music that actually takes skill? Why don't you take your fuc.king namesake band and tell them to stop being such useless pieces of shi.t and actually sing without fuc.king proccessors? There's one thing all that music has in common... everyone of those bands has a level of skill far beyond the useless corporate regurgitated bullsh.it of Blink 182. Go to hell.

[QUOTE=BassMan182]yea, you're up to date. that music has something in common - it's all sh*te[/QUOTE]

Oh I thought we got over this in a classifieds thread when I ripped you a new talkbox on the subject?
What you just said is subjective opinion, it has no more weight in actual society, in the same manner that my personal opinion on fruit doesn't effect anything at all.
Your logic is that opinion must mean truth, thus if I say Blink182 are sh[I]it[/I]e, then by your logic it is true and is a fact that you cannot refute.
You lose.

i think screaming is sexy and makes my underwear all wet. i just love thinkin of sexy screaming men (and women). ahhh man i just sullied myself.

forget these idiots
 

I cant believe some of these idiots. These people listen to mindless pop sh*t like Blink 182 (thank god they broke up) and then say screaming is for talentless bands? tell me whose more talented... blink or the dillenger escape plan? do these people have brains in their heads. Screaming is one of the most moving and meaningful things you can do in a song. It gives songs power and feeling when neccesary. Even in predominantly singing bands it works very well to add feeling. Just listen to just about any Underoath or Saosin song and you will know what i mean.

Blink or Dillenger

hmmmmmmmmm tough one


wait i got it! lets use the same 3 chords and write an album!

[QUOTE=shadedlife]there are tons of people that can scream and sing that have ****loads of talent. generalization's a bitch.[/QUOTE]


i agree...
there are plenty of great musicians out ther who scream..and funnily enough, they are actually talented.

I can say that to sing is to sing and to scream is to scream but to sing and scream at the same time and make it sound decent and understandable is the hard part and all of the people that are trying to catogorize everything int o a few catagories have no ****In clue what the hell there talking about and even if they do its your own opinion on if it sucks or not just because someone screams in there songs doesn't make them crappy because they have a better talent then complaining. Tripp rests his cases...

I've been screaming since like last november and find I can do it pretty easily and it sounds pretty good. There is one problem , however , as I find myself getting better at screaming I find myself becoming worse at normal signing and in my band I do both. Is there anything I can do or is it a fact that as one improves the other gets worse?

Man, this thread...

It makes me smile how one person can be so confident but so hideoulsy incorrect at the same time.

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]Oh I thought we got over this in a classifieds thread when I ripped you a new talkbox on the subject?
What you just said is subjective opinion, it has no more weight in actual society, in the same manner that my personal opinion on fruit doesn't effect anything at all.
Your logic is that opinion must mean truth, thus if I say Blink182 are sh[I]it[/I]e, then by your logic it is true and is a fact that you cannot refute.
You lose.[/QUOTE]

sure it's true, to you.

my arrogance rules me, so in my eyes you will always be wrong. and i will always be right. simple as. your complete inability to grasp this concept has often muffled my brain somewhat, though.

and whichever idiot it was who said screaming requires no talent - of course it does, dickface. it requires immense vocal skill, but it's still ****e and unoriginal.

it's such a shame that music is ruled these days by horrible bands lead by even worse singers. roll on the new Oasis album...

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas]This coming from a Blink 182 fan? You listen to 182 and then diss people for listening to music that actually takes skill? Why don't you take your fuc.king namesake band and tell them to stop being such useless pieces of shi.t and actually sing without fuc.king proccessors? There's one thing all that music has in common... everyone of those bands has a level of skill far beyond the useless corporate regurgitated bullsh.it of Blink 182. Go to hell.[/QUOTE]

oh. no. be quiet you little emo nerd. i appreciate more music than your whole family put together.

[QUOTE=BassMan182]
it's such a shame that music is ruled these days by horrible bands lead by even worse singers. roll on the new Oasis album...[/QUOTE]


The Gallaghers are good singers now?


:amaze:

noel is, but he is far from great.

[QUOTE=Alustle]I've been screaming since like last november and find I can do it pretty easily and it sounds pretty good. There is one problem , however , as I find myself getting better at screaming I find myself becoming worse at normal signing and in my band I do both. Is there anything I can do or is it a fact that as one improves the other gets worse?[/QUOTE]
You have to work them both. But if youre just overpushing then yes, you're probably going to suffer, but its not a fact that there's a tradeoff...but there could be something you might be doing incorrectly that might be creating this scenario...such as overpushing and/or squeezing up the larynx, improper breath control, etc.

I would suggest you read the voichelp hotline if you havent already. Be sure youre warming up and warming down.

Ye man cheers...think I'm gonna get a vocal trainer when my exams are out of the way. Need to get it sorted cause I think I am screwing up my throat a bit....Gets me so frustrated.

singing with rasp all the time is in hardcore right? stuff like lamb of god and bleeding through?

^ There's only two ways to scream....the correct way and incorrect way. Both have been covered extensively in these forums..and also in my voicehelp hotline.

hey i hate emo too, but what does have to do with screaming...in my band i sing both growl and clean and we play melodic metal and you can't say "don't scream it's cliche"....you could say the same thing about singing cleanly....it's just another way of doing something, like playing bass with a pick or fingetstyle, or playing guitar through a vintage tube distortion or a metal zone, or playing zildjians or istanbuls as a drummer....it's just a matter of taste some people like hearing certain things you can't help it

^ I totally agree!

[QUOTE=BassMan182]how can i not generalise when every single emo band sounds identical?

"its a vocal technique that can convey a certain emotion or idea" - no, it doesn't. it's just been copied so many times over so people can sound like emo bands in the charts. there's nothing emotional about it at all.[/QUOTE]





You know, you are partly right in many cases. Alot of people who just aren't screamers, scream. It's dumb and sounds crappy. But you know, screaming to convey an emotion DOES exist, and it's something I do.

When my band gets to recording, I'm gonna put something on here showing how freaking angry of a person I am. It shows in my music, and my screaming. I couldn't scream if i was in a happy mood(which Im NOT when im practicing with the guys, I psyche myself out emotionally beforehand to pull it off), believe me I have tried. If you're not an angry, emotional person, don't freakin scream, it's as simple as that. If you are, and REALLY want to scream, follow Merkaba's guidelines(they helped me alot!), and get very angry. If you find that hard to do, you are not a screamer, so just forget about it. No matter how good it "sounds", nobody's gonna feel it(the case with most emo bands). And one more thing, don't scream through every song, even if it is real emotion, it WILL get old, and that's exactly what you don't want it to do. Maybe 8-10% of my vocalism is screaming, tops. Try not to go much over that if you can help it.


(By the way, let me know if you wanna know exactly how I figured out my ideal scream, I'll let you in on it)

8-10 percent? :lol:.... how did you come up with that figure? How do you know its not 11?

I'm just picking at cha! It just seems funny if you actually think about it. But i do get what youre saying and i agree. Just make sure you know what youre doing if youre gonna do angry screaming...for all you noobs! hehe.

Bah, what can I say, sounded right at the time. But yeah, you should try to have a good idea HOW to scream before you actually get angry and do it. That's where all those help threads that you've posted come in handy.

[QUOTE=PDOGG]Bah, what can I say, sounded right at the time. But yeah, you should try to have a good idea HOW to scream before you actually get angry and do it. That's where all those help threads that you've posted come in handy.[/QUOTE]
:lol:...yea..my guess is that youre probably comin' in more around 7-7.2% +/- .003 %

dont hate me...I'm crazy :wave: