ya that is probobally the problem we do have cheap mic's i just guess were going to have to suck it up and get a better one ....about how much should i spend for a decent mic?

Um. Maybe put aside about 50 - 80 bucks for a semi decent Mic.

Look at brands like Studiomaster. Their KM series is pretty good.
And priced around the 80 dollar mark if I remember correctally.

im looking for a cheap yet efficient and durable PA system that can be heard over 2 guitars, bass and drums playing at slightly loud volume levels. All i need to plug into it is 1 microphone. Im thinking maybe something around 100watts.

someone suggested the fender passport (i think it was the 150) and it seemed good but a bit expensive. The same person also recommended the kustom profile also seemed good. What are you opinions on these two pieces?

go with the squier 4 pa system by fender it rocks and is well worth the money ......myself and my bandmates (well just me and the bassist because the drummer is cheap) just purchased it and it is well worth the money.

Does anyone have any experience with the SoundTech S20... it is only $250 on music123... [url]http://www.music123.com/SoundTech-S20-i131742.music[/url] ... just asking this for the singer of my band bc he is looking to buy a cheap PA system that is goin to be loud enough to be heard over us... thanks for any help...

how do the mixers and power amps plug into the speaker cabs? i know this is a dumb question sorry guys, my band is geting a p.a. so I was jw, do i need to buy speaker and mixer cables or something?

[QUOTE=dg_88]Does anyone have any experience with the SoundTech S20... it is only $250 on music123... [url]http://www.music123.com/SoundTech-S20-i131742.music[/url] ... just asking this for the singer of my band bc he is looking to buy a cheap PA system that is goin to be loud enough to be heard over us... thanks for any help...[/QUOTE]
Yeah.. that looks pretty good. It may struggle to keep up at some larger gigs but it should suit practise / jamming / and 'backyard party' sized gigs quite nicely.

[QUOTE=AfroDrummer16]how do the mixers and power amps plug into the speaker cabs? i know this is a dumb question sorry guys, my band is geting a p.a. so I was jw, do i need to buy speaker and mixer cables or something?[/QUOTE]
All the mics (or the line outs from the amps) go into the mixer. Mixer sets the levels.
The two main outputs of the mixer each run into the respective left and right channels of a stereo poweramp. The left and right outputs of the poweramp both run to each speaker.

What type of connections these bits of equipment use all depends on the equipment.
Some poweramps and speakers use 1/4" TS plugs.
Some poweramps just have the screw on pole connections.
Some higher end stuff have specially designed Neutrick connectors.. Which are an industry standard.

Same with the speakers. The majority use 1/4" TS, yet some of the higher end gear use Neutrick. Although Neutrick connections are usually used for speaker cabinets that can be split for biamping.. but that is something else all together.

Then again.. You can buy powered speaker cabs... which are like a speaker cab and a poweramp all built in. In which case you wont need a poweramp. Just run the outputs of the mixer into the input of the powered cab and that'll do.

But.. Also.. Quite often you can get powered mixers. Which are like mixers and poweramps all built into the one unit.. So all you'll need then is some speaker cabs.. Setups like these are extremely common. and extrememly popular. Because of their ease of use.

well the speakers cabs im thinkin about getting dont have the built in power amp, the mixer isnt a power mixer, so do the speakers, mixers, power amps come with cables i need to hook them up to each other? ill post what im getting later today, thanks

what cables would i need to connect this stuff together...? thanks...
1) Nady XA-1100 Pro Stereo Power Amp
2)Peavey PV 215 Dual 15" 2-Way Speaker Cabinet (2)
3)Behringer Eurodesk SL2442FX-PRO Mixer

From the mixer to the power amp;
Any female to male XLR lead will do the job. A couple of microphone cables would be fine:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040731222233203214146048605358/g=live/s=amps/search/detail/base_pid/330372/[/url]
Although it might be worthwhile getting some that are a suitable length for what you need.
Using 2 15 foot mic lead probably would be too suitable if you only need them 2 foot long.
If you cannot find them that short.. You may have to get them made up for you (or make 'em up yourself)

For the poweramp to the speakers;
The poweramp uses binding post outputs.. So you dont really have to worry about the connectors for that.. Just get yourself a couple of good 16 guage speaker cable, cut off and strip the ends of each wire. Connect them onto the binding posts cleanly and solidly. and screw down the binding posts firmly. Take note of their polarity.

Then.. Whatever the speakers require in the way of an input (either a 1/4" plug or a Speakon connector - although most likely the 1/4" plug) just connect on onto the other end of each speaker cable.

Or... you could just get something like this:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040731222233203214146048605358/g=live/s=amps/search/detail/base_pid/330557/[/url]
Get two of those, one for each speaker. Then cut off the unused end with a pair of wirecutters, and strip the wire for the bindings posts..

Ohh yeah. and I noticed in my last post i was going on about Neutrick conenctors. Sorry, but by this I meant 'Speakon' connectors. Sorry for the confusion.
But it is just Neutrick is a brand that makes Speakon Connectors.

[QUOTE=Aes820]Yeah.. that looks pretty good. It may struggle to keep up at some larger gigs but it should suit practise / jamming / and 'backyard party' sized gigs quite nicely.[/QUOTE]

Awesome!... thanks a lot Aes820

Thanks again Aes820, although the first link doesnt take me to a product...

[QUOTE=AfroDrummer16]Thanks again Aes820, although the first link doesnt take me to a product...[/QUOTE]
Strange. It works fine for me..
Dont worry.. all it is, is a link to a microphone cable.. Any microphone cable would work.. but the shorter the better.

dg_88: No worries mate.. glad to help.

Need Advice Fast! Thanks!
 

Alright everyone my band is small right now just starting to write songs, Only one done right now but i need to know what im going to need for small gigs like PA System wise, and how much its going to cost, because were going to play in my friends basement (we built a stage) and at my other friends house with his band, if u could get me a link or a website or something that would be very helpfull Thanks!

^ Hi.. I should've just said this in your other thread.. but nevermind:

Look around for packaged setups. Sometimes you can get packages that include the powerd mixer, speakers, microphones and etc.

Something like this would be pretty good:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040802194052152091009009719110/g=live/s=packaged/search/detail/base_pid/630426/[/url]

Or, if you are on a tighter budget, this:
[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040802194052152091009009719110/g=live/s=packaged/search/detail/base_pid/630130/[/url]

But look (and ask) around. Both in music stores, and online with sites like Musiciansfriend.

Is there any online music stores in australia that are good.

My band and i need a PA to hear 3 vocal mic's over
100 watt guitart amp x2
100 watt bass amp (all combo's)
and drums.

Hopefully it could be used for smaller gigs, but we are all tight for cash so cheap = good.

Thanks i was thinking about that last one, or one for 60 bucks more that has 240 watts

HAZCHEM: Sorry mate. I'm unaware of any decent Aussie music equip sites.
But, for your needs, check out the brand Ashton.
They've got setups very much like the ones that I linked to in my last post. And because they are Australian made, the price is fairly reasonable.
The 4100 as a starting point perhaps (4 channel, 100 watt mixer w/ speakers)..
Most local music stores should stock Ashtons, or at least be able to get them in for you.

Blink Fan: I think for just 60 bucks more, the model which you mentioned would probably be the better option.

Ok my band just bought [url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040802230602068224124178780874/g=live/s=packaged/search/detail/base_pid/630544/[/url] That pa system.We have 2 mics plugged in and the guitar.We are unplugging it tomorrow but like the mic volume is up all the way then we have the master volume almost half but when we turn it up more it makes a annoying *** sound.We have the speakers way in the back of the garage by the drums thenthe mics way at the front the mics are all the way up on the stands and it still makes noise.So is there anything way we can have the pa up all the way so its louder but with out the annoying *** sound please help me out please.If you would rather help me out on aim instant message me at Generixdrums please help me out

^ Okay. Try out a few things.

Fist off, just turn the mic channel down a bit. Put the mic volume at about 3/4. Then you'll hopefully be able to main volume a bit more before getting feedback.

Secondly, check your EQing. Mid range frequencies tend to feedback easier than others, so roll off your mids slightly. Or.. just make sure that your EQing hasn't got any extreme settings in it. As in, the Bass Mid and/or High knobs arn't all turned all the way up.

Third, you may be experiencing something called microphonics. Caused by crappy quality microphones. investing in some better quality mics will help you out.
Although this is unlikely to be the case, as the first two suggestions will be more likely to fix your problem.

Lastly, Read your manual!! It should contain plently of usueful information about how to correctly use your PA. If you dont read your manual then you might be missing some important piece of information that is preventing you from making the most out of your PA.

ok....my band just recently bought a PA system and i was wondering how to hook my guitar up to it without the PA squealing...i know it is a stupid question but some one has to ask it

well...

I presume yhou are not foolish enough to put ur guitar straight into the PA, i mean, thats not wise...

Make sure that the amp n speaker are NOT facing you, and if possible ur not standing too near, sometimes not possible but this should help

Edit for typo

[QUOTE=herobehindthemsk]ok....my band just recently bought a PA system and i was wondering how to hook my guitar up to it without the PA squealing...i know it is a stupid question but some one has to ask it[/QUOTE]
It's quite alright to plug an electric/acoustic guitar diect into a PA. Just run the acoustics pickup output into the mixer. And adjust the levels and EQing to suit.
Some people prefer to DI the acoustic before the mixer. But I've found that the is really only necessary while doing long cable runs (ie, the stage area is a fair distance from the mixer) or if the results you get out of running the guitar diect are not up to scratch.

You wont get very good results if you are running an electric guitar direct into a PA. For this it'll be better to either run your electric into an amp first and then mic up the amps speaker and run that into the PA. Or if the amp has got a 'line out' feature, using that instead.

ok thanks mayb ill just try micing up the amp then

[QUOTE] Ok my band just bought [url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...ase_pid/630544/[/url] That pa system.We have 2 mics plugged in and the guitar.We are unplugging it tomorrow but like the mic volume is up all the way then we have the master volume almost half but when we turn it up more it makes a annoying *** sound.We have the speakers way in the back of the garage by the drums thenthe mics way at the front the mics are all the way up on the stands and it still makes noise.So is there anything way we can have the pa up all the way so its louder but with out the annoying *** sound please help me out please.If you would rather help me out on aim instant message me at Generixdrums please help me out [/QUOTE]

The problem is that the speakers are behind the microphone. The speakers need to be in front of EVERYTHING so that it doesn't feedback. Move your speakers and you shoudln't have a problem. Also the size of the room may depend on how loud ytou can turn your pa up. If its a small room you wont be able to turn it up so loud because it will feed back.

ok, my band needs to know how big of a p.a. system we will need...we have two guitarists both have amps at 120 wats, and a bassist with an amp at 120 wats, and me the drummer, how many wats do you suggests the pa cabs should have?

also, what would be a good wireless sytem for this headset... [url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040808120821068102051115913748/g=live/g=live/search/bigpid/base_id/42416/[/url] and what cables would i need to hook it up to the p.a. system?

^ a 2x300 watt powered mixer should see you suited.

[QUOTE=Aes820]HAZCHEM: Sorry mate. I'm unaware of any decent Aussie music equip sites.
But, for your needs, check out the brand Ashton.
They've got setups very much like the ones that I linked to in my last post. And because they are Australian made, the price is fairly reasonable.
The 4100 as a starting point perhaps (4 channel, 100 watt mixer w/ speakers)..
Most local music stores should stock Ashtons, or at least be able to get them in for you.
[/QUOTE]

My Amps an Ashton, does pretty well for $600 too.
I'll have to have a look, thanks.

^ Look in second hand stores too.
Browsing through a local Cash Converters store for second hand PA gear can sometimes pay off.