excellent review man, would agree with you completely. Lateralus is my faviroute song, when it kicks in after about 7 minutes it is so epic

The 'white noise' in Faaip de Oiad is actually a drum solo, the whole track is a drum solo with Danny showing off his skills on both acoustic and electronic drums.

Does nobody apart from me think that The Patient is the best song on this album? :upset: I wasn't happy to see it get a 4.5/5, and the lowest mark of the 'real' songs. Can't you bunk it up to a 5? Please?

^We don't think it's the best song, really: there are so many other good ones, and in my mind nothing will top "Parabola" soon as far as Tool songs go.

[QUOTE=3rdplanet]Does nobody apart from me think that The Patient is the best song on this album? :upset: I wasn't happy to see it get a 4.5/5, and the lowest mark of the 'real' songs. Can't you bunk it up to a 5? Please?[/QUOTE]

Well I'm not gonna change my review so long after it was done..I still think, fantastic though it is, its my least favourite song on the album.

Ya, the Patient is one of my favorite songs on the album too. I dont see why the Patient was only given a 4.5 though. After a couple times of listening to the cd i could not stop listening to this song.

The Patient is good for being slow and moody...but to be honest, it's not *that* special. Well, it is, because it's a Tool song...but it's not a song I have to hear fifty million times. It's also not as good for being a driving song, as say, Parabola or Aenima :cool:

[QUOTE=boldstranger]
After a couple times of listening to the cd i could not stop listening to this song.[/QUOTE]

That was the point - the Patient didn't jump out at me my first couple of listens; then after a few, it was my favourite track, closely followed by everything else on the CD (I have a very specific memory, for some reason, of writing a letter to a friend I wrote letters to at the time, recommending to her that song in particular)...but then a dozen or so listens later, the Patient just slightly fell out of favour with me, while the others remained as forward thrust in my mind...it was just left behind in my opinion of the other tracks.

Nazi Bassist - I like your other reviews, and respect your views and arguments as a Tool fan, sooo could I ask you what you think of the review?

[QUOTE=Bartender]Nazi Bassist - I like your other reviews, and respect your views and arguments as a Tool fan, sooo could I ask you what you think of the review?[/QUOTE]

That made my day :cool:

Overall, I think this review is a bit short. This is one of those bare-bones type of reviews, and it doesn't do each track justice, I don't think. I'm somewhat torn, because sometimes I think my reviews give away too much...but even then...I could tell you every single detail about a song, but nothing gives you the full experience other than hearing the song. That being said, I think there should've been a bit more description in each song here, just a little. Each song has several sections in it, and this review, while not bad, really doesn't touch on them in depth, even a little

In terms of the song ratings...I agree with all but a few...

I don't think Parabol/Parabola either should've been reviewed separately, or given slightly lower. Well, now that I think about it, 5 is probably ok...in my mind, Parabol gets about a 4...it's good, but is quite repetitive by Tool standards...and Parabola, well, I love it to death, I'd give it a 6/5 it's that good...so 5 meets it in the middle...:p

Ticks and Leeches I think is a strong 4 instead of five. The intro solo is amazing, and it is arguebly the hardest Tool song to date. However, that softer interlude section almost kills the song, and kills the mood for me...I don't mind instrumental interludes, but this one is really repetitive, and...it's not bad in terms of musicality, but after listening to it fully the first time, I was somewhat depressed...it might've been better had there been a killer guitar solo at the end to make up for it, but meh.

Also, I believe that Disposition is definetly a five. The bassline is one of the best lines ever in modern rock/metal I think. Granted, it gets repetitive, but it is intensely relaxing (bit of a paradox, eh?) but it's so good. Reflection I'd give a 4...it's a good track, but to me, it seems to drag on...11 minutes for a song like that is a bit long. Triad would've gotten a 5 from me, however, because that opening guitar solo is just so insane...I love the main riff too, it's so heavy, there's a definite tribal feel to it, very emotional despite no words being spoken

And last but not least...Lateralis gets 4.5 simply because the 9-8-7 progression throws me off...:p

^ You sound more like a Nazi Drummer to me, what with the "intro solo" in Ticks and Leeches. It's only on drums, right?

[QUOTE=YDload]^ You sound more like a Nazi Drummer to me, what with the "intro solo" in Ticks and Leeches. It's only on drums, right?[/QUOTE]

How does that make me a Nazi Drummer?

Yes, the intro solo is done on drums...it's a drum solo...

^ Because you were discussing the merits of the drum parts instead of the instrument which your user name would suggest that you like...

Well, as a bassist, I'll be one to freely admit the bassline of Ticks and Leeches is not that hard, nor is it that good

[QUOTE=Nazi Bassist]Well, as a bassist, I'll be one to freely admit the bassline of Ticks and Leeches is not that hard, nor is it that good[/QUOTE]

I agree with you, but most people would have a hard time saying that about the drum part. :thumb:

*danny carey is genious for creating that pattern*

[QUOTE=Bartender]Heh...in brief;

in 1581, a Dr called John Dee (a renaissance type - mathematician, philosopher, astrologer, scientist in one) was employed as a mathematician in the English royal court. Can't quite remember how (and can't find the book to check), but he ended up being interested in divination and magic, so he and his medium (Edward Kelley) started communing with angels and such. Enochian was the language dictated to Kelley by the angels and deciphered by Dee - Dee also developed it into the Enochian system of magic and invocation(I remember theres a story told by whoever did the foreword for the book about a group he was with who were into this kinda thing who managed a communication with an angel called Laidrom), which has been used as a basis for magicks ever since - if you know who Aleister Crowley is (most serious Tool fans seem to), he used Enochian (theres even some of his recordings in Enochian available on CD).

Enochian was also apparently used by Elizabeth's (the queen in Dee's time) and some later monarchs' secret security force, as a coded language.[/QUOTE]


It seems like Blair from Toolband is trying to push occult theories onto fans of tool, which is too bad, it probably turns many off to this great band. You don't have to dabble in the occult to be a serious Tool fan. The band encourages you to question yourself and your beliefs, but you don't have to dive into something like that. You can enjoy the music and not have to do a lot of research; music shouldn't turn into homework.
Great CD though, my favorite track is Reflection, just for Maynard's creative singing. Great drumming throughout, especially on Ticks and Leeches.

[QUOTE=ieatalotoftacos]You don't have to dabble in the occult to be a serious Tool fan. The band encourages you to question yourself and your beliefs, but you don't have to dive into something like that. You can enjoy the music and not have to do a lot of research; music shouldn't turn into homework.
[/QUOTE]

er...when did I say you did?

It just happens that I did, and the only reason I posted anything about the book/theories was because craigmac asked. If you read the review, I didn't talk about anything outside music and lyrics.

I consider myself a serious fan of Tool, but I really don't get into the occult or the Enochian or some of the other stuff that surrounds Tool...*shrug* it's not necessary to enjoy, or even analyze the music

But did you know Aleister Crowley was?

[QUOTE=Bartender]But did you know Aleister Crowley was?[/QUOTE]

Heard the name mentioned...I have no idea who he/she is :p

oh my god

^er, yeah, thanks for that...

[QUOTE=Nazi Bassist]
Heard the name mentioned...I have no idea who he/she is :p[/QUOTE]

Fair enough...I just meant that most of the serious Tool fans I knew at the time (which was and still is lamentably few) all knew about the stuff the band liked. I looked into it a little, but never investigated it too deeply.

[QUOTE=Bartender]^er, yeah, thanks for that...



Fair enough...I just meant that most of the serious Tool fans I knew at the time (which was and still is lamentably few) all knew about the stuff the band liked. I looked into it a little, but never investigated it too deeply.[/QUOTE]

Tool fans have gotten a bad rap by critics/idiots as being these overly intellectual people who dabble in all sorts of weird sh*t for the sake of being "weird" or "enlightened". I wouldn't mind looking more into the philosophies of Tool a bit more, but...it doesn't consume every fiber of my being like it does some Toolophiles

Tool fans also get a bad rep because, in a twist of irony, their blind devotion to a band that praises open-mindedness means that they boo opening acts at Tool's shows (including Tomahawk and Meshuggah) and refuse to accept others' opinions that Tool is not the greatest band in history.

Yeah, I like Tool, but I have some grounding in reality too.

[QUOTE=YDload]Tool fans also get a bad rep because, in a twist of irony, their blind devotion to a band that praises open-mindedness means that they boo opening acts at Tool's shows (including Tomahawk and Meshuggah) and refuse to accept others' opinions that Tool is not the greatest band in history.

Yeah, I like Tool, but I have some grounding in reality too.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's another thing. Tool is not the greatest band in history...however they have had the greatest effect on my life, muscially, etc. So. Whoo. :cool:

^Exactly. A great band, but not gods. I'm glad some people understand!

[QUOTE=YDload]^Exactly. A great band, but not gods. I'm glad some people understand![/QUOTE]

I beg to differ. Danny is a god of drumming. Maynard is a demi-god of singing...and Adam and Justin are just da[color=white]m[/color]n good at what they do. :cool:

This, however, does not mean that there aren't other good bands. Tool is NOT the end-all

whos the asshole who gave it a 3.5?
This album kicks unmeasureable ***
5/5
if you dont have it, buy it

I lvoe this CD. I'm too lazy to review it.

I created an acoustic version of lateralus for one guitar only. Very awesome but very different than the original.

Whoa....must hear