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Kif 05-31-2004 07:45 AM

This is, for me, one of the best, if not [b]the[/b] best emo album I have ever heard. It has touching lyrics mixed with appropriate and mixed melodies and drum beats, which make the album memorable and meaningful everytime you listen to it.

Sure, YFW had the heavy guitars, the faster riffs and lyrics we can all relate to. But Deja Entendu is deeper than that, and shows that Brand New have matured into the act we see today. Songs like "Okay I believe you...", "Guernica" and "The Quiet Things..." really prove this point.

So in the end, buy this album. You shall not be disappointed!

not_another_emo_kid 07-05-2004 11:20 PM

brand new are a really great band. they are pretty much the only emo band i like. i do think that your favorite weapon was better but it's only because i intened to prove that underground and diy music is alot better than main stream afi is an example of that.

br3ad_man 08-24-2004 05:23 AM

Here's my review, just incase anyone cares:

[SIZE=7]Brand New - Deja Entendu[/SIZE]

[IMG]http://www.zboneman.com/music/images/brandnew.jpg[/IMG]

[i]The Band:[/i]
Jesse Lacey - Vocals/Guitar/Songwriter
Vin Accardi - Guitar/Co Songwriter
Garrett Tierney - Bass
Brian Lane - Drums

[i]Tracklist[/i]
1 Tautou
2 Sic Transit Gloria ... Glory Fades
3 I Will Play My Game Beneath the Spin Light
4 Okay I Believe You, But My Tommy Gun Don't
5 The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
6 The Boy Who Blocked His Own Shot
7 Jaws Theme Swimming
8 Me vs. Maradona vs. Elvis
9 Guernica
10 Good to Know That If I Ever Need Attention All I Have to Do Is Die
11 Play Crack the Sky




Brand New's second album is a major step up from their first LP, "Your Favourite Weapon". Actually, make that 3 steps up. The music contains simple melodies and riffs, with great vocals and lyrics. While Jesse Lacey isn't a lyrical genius my any stretch of the imagination, he writes some **** good lyrics when he tries.
Although I love this record (my favourite 2003 release), it is nowhere near perfect. For starters, the songs only really have one structure. The melodies, lyrics and emotional singing make up for this easily though. The music is not at all complex (most beginners could play most of the guitar parts), it is still interesting because of the use of two different guitars (they play different things as opposed to doubling each other), wonderful use of dynamics and the use of two voices. There are essentially two types of songs on this. There are the songs that are quiet and acoustic or the ones that have a fairly quiet verse and go into a heavy chorus.

The guitar work between the two guitarists is great. The lead guitarist usually plays high riffs, while the rhythm guitarist plays powerchords. One guitarist plays Gibsons and the other plays Fender Telecasters. This shows that having two guitars isn't just something that's unneeded, they actually work together to create sounds.

Standout track reviews:

[b]The Quiet Things No One Ever Knows[/b] - The song starts with a quiet riff based around a G chord. Then it goes into a heavy part with an awesome and simple guitar riff over the top. Then the verse comes in, a fast pop-punk type verse. Then the chorus comes in, with two yelling voices doing a call and response thing. It sounds amazing. The bridge is sort of a fusion sound of the verses and the choruses.
[b]4/5[/b]

[b]Me vs Maradona vs Elvis[/b] - This song is 80% percent slow. Until it goes heavy, it's played entirely on one clean electric. The most amazing parts of the song are the parts where Jesse sings emotionally and quietly (almost whispering). The chorus is amazing and just as good when it goes heavy. An extremely beautiful song. Amazing.
[b]4/5[/b]

[b]Good To Know If I Ever Need Attention All I Have To Do Is Die[/b] - I think this the best song on the album. A very nice verse but nothing special. But then the chorus comes in and it's amazing. The melodies, vocals and rhythms all combine to make something spectacular. One of the most amazing songs I have ever heard. Period.
[b]5/5[/b]

I'd find it hard to belevie if someone told me they didn't like this album. It's one of the most beautiful emotional records I have ever listened to. It's quickly shot up to become my 3rd favourite record of all time and I don't even usually like this kind of music. So there.

[b]My biased rating: 5/5[/b]

[b]My unbiased rating: 3.5/5[/b]

Reccomended for fans of:

Weezer
Jimmy Eat World
Death Cab For Cutie
Taking Back Sunday
Blink 182 (their new album)
Funeral For A Friend

[b][i]Reccomended Tracks[/i][/b]

[i]The Quiet Things No One Ever Knows
Me vs Maradona vs Elvis
Good To Know If I Ever Need Attention All I Have To Do Is Die
[/i]

pixiesfanyo 08-24-2004 05:33 AM

Me vs Maradona vs Elvis is the only track I listen to from this cd.

splashfreak 08-24-2004 11:18 AM

I continue to be stupified by this board. A completely talentless, grabage sounding pop-punk album like deja entendu get's this positive reaction, and if someone even mentions the name hoobastank, everyone starts yelling?

Not that hoobastank is great or something, but every band on the planet has more talent than Brand New. I got their first album, it was ALRIGHT for pop-punk, but alright means a 2.5, and this album is no better than the first, maybe worse. they sure don't deserve a four, and definitely not a friggin five like everyone here seems to want.

I mean, their drummer sucks--I can do pretty much everything he does with one stinkin' hand--their guitar is ridiculously easy, their bass--well, I'll admit it, I don't really know anything about bass...

And did I hear someone even MENTION that their lyrics are good? Their lyrics have no rhyme or reason, are all about stupid break-ups, and every song is SOOOO repetative. I mean, come on!

[QUOTE]Reccomended for fans of:

Weezer
Jimmy Eat World
Death Cab For Cutie
Taking Back Sunday
Blink 182 (their new album)
Funeral For A Friend[/QUOTE]

And who on earth would be a fan of ANY of those bands?

Iai 08-24-2004 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=splashfreak]And who on earth would be a fan of ANY of those bands?[/QUOTE]

I love Funeral For A Friend. I've got a soft spot for Weezer too. And I like what Death Cab For Cutie I've heard (not a lot).

And who on Earth would come into a thread for an album they don't like, just to slag off people who do like it?

You, sir, are a bigot.

splashfreak 08-24-2004 01:51 PM

[QUOTE]You, sir, are a bigot.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, maybe so. I just see other people doing it so often I had to just, you know...

MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO!!!!

br3ad_man 08-24-2004 03:57 PM

[QUOTE=splashfreak]I continue to be stupified by this board. A completely talentless, grabage sounding pop-punk album like deja entendu get's this positive reaction, and if someone even mentions the name hoobastank, everyone starts yelling?

Not that hoobastank is great or something, but every band on the planet has more talent than Brand New. I got their first album, it was ALRIGHT for pop-punk, but alright means a 2.5, and this album is no better than the first, maybe worse. they sure don't deserve a four, and definitely not a friggin five like everyone here seems to want.

I mean, their drummer sucks--I can do pretty much everything he does with one stinkin' hand--their guitar is ridiculously easy, their bass--well, I'll admit it, I don't really know anything about bass...

And did I hear someone even MENTION that their lyrics are good? Their lyrics have no rhyme or reason, are all about stupid break-ups, and every song is SOOOO repetative. I mean, come on!



And who on earth would be a fan of ANY of those bands?[/QUOTE]

First off, the reason I love Brand New is that their music is honest and you can tell he means everything he does.

Secondly, what you said about their music being easy...Shut the hell up and go listen to Dream Theater. The point of their music is not to show off ability, it is to convey emotion.

Oh, and I am a fan of all of those bands except TBS, I don't know if I like them yet.

elmodman 08-24-2004 04:16 PM

this band also has good videos

splashfreak 08-24-2004 04:39 PM

[QUOTE]Secondly, what you said about their music being easy...Shut the hell up and go listen to Dream Theater. The point of their music is not to show off ability, it is to convey emotion.[/QUOTE]

Hmm... I don't mind easy to play music. I listen to plenty of bands that at least have simple songs. My problem was simply with the fact that this board generally condemns simple music, until it comes to a band with music as simple Brand new, when they are suddenly great.

"Convey emotion"? Are you serious? The only emotion that comes to mind from their lyrics is boredom--they say the same thing over and over again.

Not only that, his voice is so annoying... And it doesn't have to be. I really like the way his voice sounds in song 8 on YFW. Maybe that is a different singer? but it sounds a lot better than his normal voice.

And yeah, I have been thinking of listening to dream theatre...

pixiesfanyo 08-24-2004 06:14 PM

I find it funny how you get mad and defend Alter Bridge in their review. And then you come here and make fun of this band. F[I]u[/I]cking hypocrite.

First off, Brand New is the most talented band or the most lyrically smart but they are a lot better than most of the nu-metal/modern rock bands out now so I respect most of their fans.

Second. Alter Bridge sucks. :)

Bartender 08-24-2004 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=splashfreak]
And who on earth would be a fan of ANY of those bands?[/QUOTE]

Just got to say, I'm a huge fan of extreme metal, and even I've got a soft spot for Weezer. Those guys rule.

splashfreak 08-24-2004 07:39 PM

[QUOTE]I find it funny how you get mad and defend Alter Bridge in their review. And then you come here and make fun of this band. ****ing hypocrite.

First off, Brand New is the most talented band or the most lyrically smart but they are a lot better than most of the nu-metal/modern rock bands out now so I respect most of their fans.

Second. Alter Bridge sucks. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, because to like one band and dislike another is hypocrytical. I am not making fun of this band. I really don't mind them that much. I'd rather listen to them than just about any other pop-punk EMO band, but I was only wondering why it is that a band like this--clearly less talented than a band like Alter Bridge, no matter you like them or not--gets such positive reviews, and Alter Bridge doesn't? I guess I can't complain too much. Most of the people on my review now agree with me...

Second, do you really think AB sucks, or do you dislike them because you dislike me and I like them? ;-)

Anyway, I didn't mean to dis Brand New or anything. If you find their lyrics emotionally moving, more power to you. I'm just a little confused, that's all. But seriously, I've got nothing against Brand New. They ARE a punk band, so they don't really need to be good at their instruments.

pixiesfanyo 08-24-2004 07:46 PM

I'm saying you are a hypocrite because you get mad when someone comes into your band's review and bashes them and then you do the same thing to Rollerqueen. It's just a[I]s[/I]sholetastic

splashfreak 08-24-2004 07:54 PM

[QUOTE]I'm saying you are a hypocrite because you get mad when someone comes into your band's review and bashes them and then you do the same thing to Rollerqueen. It's just assholetastic[/QUOTE]

I never once got mad because someone bashed my review. I never once got MAD, for that matter. Maybe it seemed like I did (no inflectiopn of voice, hand gestures, etc. online), but I wasn't. I argued my case for why I though Alter Bridge had made the best album I had ever heard, but I wasn't MAD.

And also, I did not come in here bashing the review. I came in here bashing the board. If he thinks this album is great, that is his opinion, I won't argue. But the BOARD IN GENERAL seems to be playing hypocrite here. His review was actually very good. I didn't agree with it, but it was good.

pixiesfanyo 08-24-2004 08:05 PM

I'm talking about the fecking ratings you stupid. Not the review

splashfreak 08-24-2004 08:26 PM

[QUOTE]I'm saying you are a hypocrite because you get mad when someone comes into your band's review and bashes them and then you do the same thing to Rollerqueen. It's just assholetastic[/QUOTE]

And then we have...

[QUOTE]I'm talking about the fecking ratings you stupid. Not the review[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, you have your story straight.

br3ad_man 08-25-2004 01:57 AM

[QUOTE=splashfreak]Hmm... I don't mind easy to play music. I listen to plenty of bands that at least have simple songs. My problem was simply with the fact that this board generally condemns simple music, until it comes to a band with music as simple Brand new, when they are suddenly great.

"Convey emotion"? Are you serious? The only emotion that comes to mind from their lyrics is boredom--they say the same thing over and over again.

Not only that, his voice is so annoying... And it doesn't have to be. I really like the way his voice sounds in song 8 on YFW. Maybe that is a different singer? but it sounds a lot better than his normal voice.

And yeah, I have been thinking of listening to dream theatre...[/QUOTE]

I could write for pages and pages on this but I won't say anything except this.

The only place people bash simple music is Rock and Metal.

RollerQueen 08-25-2004 02:52 AM

Please stop arguing.

splashfreak 08-25-2004 08:46 AM

[QUOTE]I could write for pages and pages on this but I won't say anything except this.

The only place people bash simple music is Rock and Metal.[/QUOTE]

That might be true... perhaps I am confusing my boards... ah well, we live and learn. Either way, good review, although I think their first album was better.

pixiesfanyo 08-25-2004 09:03 AM

[B]your band's review[/B]

[B]same thing to Rollerqueen.[/B]

You're so dumb. I'm saying Rollerqueen likes this band. And you like Alterbridge. You both like ****ty bands that alot of people don't like. So when someone comes and makes fun of your band you get angry and defensive. So why would you want to do that to someone else's band?

All you accomplished by posting in this review was to demonstrate how much of an *** you are. If you don't like the band that is cool, but don't go into the band's thread and make fun of them because it'll just result in arguments.

splashfreak 08-25-2004 09:09 AM

^^^^^^^

You just don't get it.

And by the way, I'M the ***? That is really backed up by your incessant name-calling. My first post was something of a joke, which should be obvious to you since you obviously read the alter bridge thread. Since no one really got the joke, I backed away from it--slowly. Truth is, I don't really mind Brand New. They are a little to... pop for me, but I don't think they suck or something. I also don't think your an ***, or at least I didn't, but after

[QUOTE]You're so dumb. I'm saying Rollerqueen likes this band. And you like Alterbridge. You both like ****ty bands that alot of people don't like. So when someone comes and makes fun of your band you get angry and defensive. So why would you want to do that to someone else's band? [/QUOTE]

You once again changed what you were talking about, I'm starting to think maybe you have some sort of memory problem, where you can't rememebr what your last post was. First it was all about me bashing BN, then it was about me bashing the review, then it was me bashing the rating, and now it is me bashing the band again. Make up your mind, already.

pixiesfanyo 08-25-2004 09:10 AM

All I'm saying is don't come into other people's threads and bash the band. It's simple.

You're the one who isn't getting it.

RollerQueen 08-25-2004 10:08 AM

BOTH of you: Shut the f[COLOR=WHITE]u[/COLOR]ck up and do this on AIM.

splashfreak 08-25-2004 11:46 AM

*shuts the ---- up and does this on AIM*

br3ad_man 08-26-2004 07:21 AM

[QUOTE=RollerQueen]BOTH of you: Shut the f[COLOR=WHITE]u[/COLOR]ck up and do this on AIM.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it better.

Win A Rabbit 08-29-2004 08:39 PM

well anyways...

i bought this cd the day it came out, and im still constantly listening to it. i'll admit the quiet-loud transitions get repetitive, but for the first few songs with the quiet-loud formula, it works really well. im alos a big fan of jesse lacey's lyrics.

4.25/5, just because of repetitiveness


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