[QUOTE=ihatecelebrities]Smoking marijuana does not prevent someone from living a positive life. It may prevent a "clean" life, but clean to me simply means abstaining from anything harmful to your body. Nobody leads a clean life, there are toxins and harmful substances in many of the foods we eat for god sakes.[/QUOTE]
Well, some things we don't know about, but with marijuana you KNOW you're taking in a bunch of smokey crap.

[QUOTE=Flagjacket]I think straight edge is kinda dumb, cause contemporary straight edge isn't what it was originally about. The way I look at it, straight edge was supposed to be about not letting drugs become a big part of you. And plus, why is there a label for people who don't do drugs but also happen to listen to Minor Threat?[/QUOTE]

There is still people who live by the orginal ideals of straight edge. I'm one of them, although I don't like Minor Threat. Good Clean Fun preaches (in a humourouse way) the orginal straight edge ideal

[QUOTE=ihatecelebrities]Smoking marijuana does not prevent someone from living a positive life. It may prevent a "clean" life, but clean to me simply means abstaining from anything harmful to your body. Nobody leads a clean life, there are toxins and harmful substances in many of the foods we eat for god sakes.[/QUOTE]

But staying drug free and alcohol free is a step towards it. And the toxins in a drug is a lot worse then some of the toxins in food.

[QUOTE=Flagjacket]Well, some things we don't know about, but with marijuana you KNOW you're taking in a bunch of smokey crap.[/QUOTE]
When you eat a hamburger you don't know you're eating fatty, greased up meat? Smoking isn't the only way to ingest marijuana. It's true that inhaling any smoke is bad for you, but when you're smoking a PLANT, it's very minimal.
[QUOTE]But staying drug free and alcohol free is a step towards it. And the toxins in a drug is a lot worse then some of the toxins in food.[/QUOTE]
So, are you taking any new steps? What's your diet like? Do you stay away from the computer and TV more? Are you reading more books and other writings that your brain can benefit from?

I'm not talking about heroin or other hard drugs, I know how bad those are, and I'm never going to do them. What do you think is better (gonna use the hamburger example again), eating a juicy hamburger that may have many artificial ingredients in it, or smoking a plant (and a natural pain reliever)?

We put put chemicals into the ground which are then taken up by plants and animals, and brought into our bodies. the end

Chemicals should be the least important issue of this conversation. Addiction and obesity are dangerous side affects of both.

[QUOTE=ihatecelebrities]When you eat a hamburger you don't know you're eating fatty, greased up meat? Smoking isn't the only way to ingest marijuana. It's true that inhaling any smoke is bad for you, but when you're smoking a PLANT, it's very minimal.

So, are you taking any new steps? What's your diet like? Do you stay away from the computer and TV more? Are you reading more books and other writings that your brain can benefit from?

I'm not talking about heroin or other hard drugs, I know how bad those are, and I'm never going to do them. What do you think is better (gonna use the hamburger example again), eating a juicy hamburger that may have many artificial ingredients in it, or smoking a plant (and a natural pain reliever)?[/QUOTE]

I'm taking more steps. I don't watch TV, my computer time is mostly reading stuff, mainly Wikipedia. I've been weighing giving up caffeine in favour of other drinks, but its iffy because of the price.

Neither is good for you in the longrun, but nothing really is. But staying away from drugs, in my mind, feels better and feels safer, not only because of the chemicals, but also the culture, the legality of it, etc.

Addiction? Marijuana addiction is all mental, you can get addicted to anything mentally.

[QUOTE=Brain Squirmin' Like a Toad]I'm taking more steps. I don't watch TV, my computer time is mostly reading stuff, mainly Wikipedia. I've been weighing giving up caffeine in favour of other drinks, but its iffy because of the price.

Neither is good for you in the longrun, but nothing really is. But staying away from drugs, in my mind, feels better and feels safer, not only because of the chemicals, but also the culture, the legality of it, etc.[/QUOTE]
Good for you. You just feel that the risks, though minimal, aren't worth it, right? In my opinion, to put it in economical terms, the marginal benefit of smoking weed GREATLY exceeds the marginal cost.

What do you mean by culture though? Haha, you have the most files out of I think everyone in the punk forum, what do you care about the legality of it? It's so easy to avoid getting caught.

[QUOTE=ihatecelebrities]Good for you. You just feel that the risks, though minimal, aren't worth it, right? In my opinion, to put it in economical terms, the marginal benefit of smoking weed GREATLY exceeds the marginal cost.

What do you mean by culture though? Haha, you have the most files out of I think everyone in the punk forum, what do you care about the legality of it? It's so easy to avoid getting caught.[/QUOTE]

Culture as in coming to get the weed. If you don't grow your own, you buy it from someone, which can put you in the drug culture, which to me isn't a safe place. And legality dealing with police because of drugs and dealing with lawyers because of file sharing is different.

Its all personal opinion, you don't think the risks of drug use are that great, and I think they are. I rather stay away from these type of things, and you think they enlighten you. I don't disrespect you because of it, I disrespect the drug more then the user.

Yeah there are some sketchy people involved in the drug market but everyone who I've dealt with was a really nice guy.

[QUOTE=ihatecelebrities]Yeah there are some sketchy people involved in the drug market but everyone who I've dealt with was a really nice guy.[/QUOTE]

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i just figured out what community thread city limits means.

drugs suck ballllls

The whole drug thing is two sided just like everything else. But as far as "sketchy" people in the drug business whom "lace" their drugs go. That is very rare and if they do it's to the point where you would not even notice unless you have done the drug a considerable amount of times.

My mind is who I am, drugs alter your mind. Therefore I would rather not do them because I like who I am. I don't want to be someone else.

That's all. But I respect everyone, drugs or not.

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]The whole drug thing is two sided just like everything else. But as far as "sketchy" people in the drug business whom "lace" their drugs go. That is very rare and if they do it's to the point where you would not even notice unless you have done the drug a considerable amount of times.

My mind is who I am, drugs alter your mind. Therefore I would rather not do them because I like who I am. I don't want to be someone else.

That's all. But I respect everyone, drugs or not.[/QUOTE]
Highly..AGREED.

[QUOTE=ihatecelebrities]Yeah there are some sketchy people involved in the drug market but everyone who I've dealt with was a really nice guy.[/QUOTE]

I lent my bike and cellphone to a dealer so he could phone a guy up and bike to his house, all for some chron. He returned back in like 20 minutes. I was very surprised.

[QUOTE=Flagjacket]I think straight edge is kinda dumb, cause contemporary straight edge isn't what it was originally about. The way I look at it, straight edge was supposed to be about not letting drugs become a big part of you. And plus, why is there a label for people who don't do drugs but also happen to listen to Minor Threat?[/QUOTE]

I have said what you said many times before. Straight edge wasn't originally as hardline as it is today. Members of Minor Threat drank occasionally and had smoked weed but it wasn't a big part of their lives.

Now no more talking about drugs, it gay mmk?

You guys still having the same old arguement about drungs in here? pfffttt

No one is going to change anyone's mind on drugs.

Thats why everyone should stfu

[QUOTE=Excursions]I have said what you said many times before. Straight edge wasn't originally as hardline as it is today. Members of Minor Threat drank occasionally and had smoked weed but it wasn't a big part of their lives.

Now no more talking about drugs, it gay mmk?[/QUOTE]
If read actually read my post, you'd see that that's basically what I said.

If you read my post you would stfu.

[QUOTE=Flagjacket]If read actually read my post, you'd see that that's basically what I said.[/QUOTE]

If you actually read my post, you'd see that what you said is basicially what I have said about many times, as stated in my first sentance.

Dom: 123.

I have listened to heaps of Husker Du this weeks and The Pixies over the last few days too.

"MMMMMM DRUGZ" -ak

ak should post here.

ak more like agay!


I hate being sick.

Being sick does suck. I think i have an ear infection but i cant be botherd to go to the doctor.

I just got a cold all of a sudden, and it's gay. Plus a cold added to having to nearly run (one cannot actually run wearing a jacket, backpack, and steel toe boots) to catch an earlier bus because my class was canceled.

I did only have one class today though.

I've had a cold for the past few weeks.

I walked in the rain to a gay football game.