I dunno, theres some people who should really be killed.

[quote=Sunshine;16012555]Haha, I used to be Catholic because that's what I was trained to be by my parents.
Now that I'm in college, I still believe the general big picture, but the details irk me.
Specific religion is pretty messed up, but if you take the very basic beliefs of most religions, it doesn't sound too bad.
Y'know.
Don't kill people, don't steal ****, don't be a douchebag.
I think it's a pretty good way to live.[/quote]
Yeah I agree up to that point. I just don't think those sort of principles need to be reinforced by religion: One can be a moral person without being religious.

[quote=Sunshine;16012555]if you take the very basic beliefs of most religions, it doesn't sound too bad.
Y'know.
Don't kill people, don't steal ****, don't be a douchebag.[/quote]

It's funny....as you say, most religions do teach one generally not to be a douchebag, yet most followers are douchbags. Kinda silly really.

Religion seems to be a belief system that makes otherwise sensible people ignore logic and common sense.

Don't generalize dammit!

[quote]Has anybody here bought anything from Musician's Friend before?

I'm thinking of getting a headphone amp w/ 4 headphone combo. Granted the headphones are probably really cheap (the combo is $50 more than the headphone amp by itself), and I need it by late next week.[/quote]

You cant individualise everyone in a huge group. Thats just stupid.

Generalisation is the only way to do it.

[quote=Seafroggys;16012556]Has anybody here bought anything from Musician's Friend before?
[/quote]

only about 8-9 different times. i've received everything as promised in 3 business days each time i ordered. they have some of the best prices online for most products and are reliable. i've never had a problem with them at all.

i have. worked fine for me.

i've also ordered from massmusic - just as reliable, generally better prices most times.

I never said you HAD to have religion to teach those "morals."
But it still does.
Which is kinda nice.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny;16012674]i have. worked fine for me.

i've also ordered from massmusic - just as reliable, generally better prices most times.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I got a Paiste 2002 crash from Massmusic a year and a half ago.

But I don't think Massmusic has this combo package I'm looking for. We'll see.

[quote=Sunshine;16012681]I never said you HAD to have religion to teach those "morals."
But it still does.
Which is kinda nice.[/quote]
I suppose, but one can do that without religion, and avoid the more negative aspects.

Like buttsecks with choir boys.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;16012749]Like buttsecks with choir boys.[/QUOTE]
omg u shud b a cmdian

In using an iphone lmao

lol hai berk

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHO8l-Bd1O4[/url]

oh yeah....this is funny

iphones are lame.

my phone can do this: calls, text messages, calendar, calculator.

i pwn, rite?

my Cell and my ipod do the trick for me

soup

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny;16013295]my Cell and my ipod do the trick for me[/QUOTE]
yeah my cell phone and mp3 player sit side by side in my pocket and cost me like 1/10th of what it would cost me to buy an iphone.

well technically they cost me nothing. cell phone was free with a plan and i got my mp3 player for christmas 2 years ago.

Tim Hortons soup :thumb:

a friend of mine worked at tim horton's for like 2 years and told me to never ever buy the soup or chili.


and i walked over to tim horton's a while back at like 1 am to get a coffee and dougnut, and went to the drive-thru, and they refused to serve me. there was nobody behind me, but they were all "umm this is a drive-thru" and i was all "umm it takes 30 seconds to get a coffee and doughnut it's not a big deal and i dont drive and the front doors are closed this is my only option" and they were all "umm sorry" and closed the window.

i haven't been there since.

[QUOTE=TTTSNB;16012521]I respect your beliefs Chippy, but I just have one question. I've always believed that most religious people practice their religion because they a) want comfort for their problems in everyday life, and b) want to know where they're going after death. Now I'm curious why you couldn't solve a) with one's own intellectual thought, and advice from other, possibly wiser people.[/QUOTE]

i'm not entirely sure how to answer this statement, but i'll give it it a shot. The first thing i would ask is "what is religion?" After I had a definition which satisfied me, i would then ask "what is the point of the religion?"

generalizing religious people as people looking for solace for their problems is only taking religion at point-blank face value. You're looking at the people, not the religion itself. Do a little research on the first two questions and i think you might discover something interesting about religion.

one of the big argument trends i see is the connection to the word "religion" and a particular faith. What do you think of when i say the word "religion?" I get the impression a lot of people would say something like "islam" or "christianity" or something like that. That association needs to be shaken up a little. A particular belief is a little portion of "religion" -- it's like a venn diagram where religion is a giant circle and the various faiths are little circles inside the big religion circle. To me (and to many others,) religion should be a synonym with "belief" or more accurately "belief system." Everyone has a system of beliefs, it's part of being human; there's even a part of your brain devoted solely to it.

further, i see that "church" and religion are often tied together, and they need to be separated too. In catholicism (and probably a lot of the other faiths, but i don't know for certain) "Church" with a capital letter refers to the faith, while "church" refers to the place where one goes to participate in ceremonies as a community. Church is a culture -- in this culture, there are certain behavioral and physical expectations, just like any other culture. Often, they require going to church with the church. I hope that makes sense... one really needs to think about it more than just face value.



so. back to your statement. Religion how you put together a belief system. Faiths (or Churches) are cultures with a common belief system or religion. People attend and make up the "church," which is the people and the space in which ceremonies take place. Some faiths' beliefs pertain to what happens when we die. Some faiths' beliefs include healing. Some people who are members of a certain faith believe that participating in the faith's traditions will return some favorable something to them -- and take comfort in it.









As always, the above is what [i]I[/i] believe. Your mileage may vary. I've discovered what i've written above by doing exactly what i've asked you to do -- challenge your beliefs.

please, (unless i've written something terribly confusingly,) take a good 5-10 minutes to really think about what i've said before responding. I'm not trying to convert you to a faith, i'm just trying to challenge the prejudices and associations certain words invoke in all of us. I realize this is the internet where nothing matters, but just this once use that independent mind of yours to take up my challenge.

^ will read when i get home. i have to go to work now, though.

[quote=sic]blah blah blah soup and doughnuts or maybe coffee?[/quote]

it's because you're black.

they don't serve [i]your type[/i].

[QUOTE=Win A Rabbit;16013347]a friend of mine worked at tim horton's for like 2 years and told me to never ever buy the soup or chili.


and i walked over to tim horton's a while back at like 1 am to get a coffee and dougnut, and went to the drive-thru, and they refused to serve me. there was nobody behind me, but they were all "umm this is a drive-thru" and i was all "umm it takes 30 seconds to get a coffee and doughnut it's not a big deal and i dont drive and the front doors are closed this is my only option" and they were all "umm sorry" and closed the window.

i haven't been there since.[/QUOTE]

this girl my brother is going out with works at tims....said a regular muffin has more fat in it than a Big Mac....thats scary.

and for a quick, short comedic break, this is a funny comic.

[img]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png[/img]

:lol:

classy

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4[/url]

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