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Lord Abortion 12-28-2005 04:26 PM

Plus...with the extra money raised by legalising it, governments would actually be able to cut other tax...imagine that.

Mr. Black 12-28-2005 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Plus...with the extra money raised by legalising it, governments would actually be able to cut other tax...imagine that.[/QUOTE]
But lots of people would die!

Mustainekilsemos 12-28-2005 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=Doctor Night V.2.0]How The [COLOR="Silver"]Fu[/COLOR]ck is that man still Alive!

He also wants Heroin legalised.
[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=410021[/url][/QUOTE]
For me it says page requested wasn't found

someone tell me what the **** this idiot is doin'

Illmatic 12-28-2005 04:29 PM

[QUOTE]The argument to get all drugs legalised actually has some good sides.
Illegal drug trafficing funds most other crime.
Cut that funding out and you would cut crime.
Plus the money raised from taxing it would fund hospitals and proper reserch so that people can use drugs in a clean and safe environment if they so wish.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, there's no possible justification for making heroin, cocaine, and crack legal.

Bazarov 12-28-2005 04:31 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Plus...with the extra money raised by legalising it, governments would actually be able to cut other tax...imagine that.[/QUOTE]
That's what I think as well. Even though I myself don't do any kind of drugs, I think America and other nations could boost the economy.

[QUOTE=Doctor Night V.2.0]But lots of people would die![/QUOTE]
Lots of people die from alcohol, and cigarettes, as well.

EDIT- Crap, I just realized that, that my post has already been said.

Lord Abortion 12-28-2005 04:31 PM

[QUOTE=Doctor Night V.2.0]But lots of people would die![/QUOTE]
Would any more than normal?

Ray- I don't agree with this personally, just these are the arguments put forward by the people who do.

Anyone who has read [I]High Society[/I] by Ben Elton knows about it.

Shred Danson 12-28-2005 04:34 PM

[QUOTE]Lots of people die from alcohol, and cigarettes, as well.[/QUOTE]

think they don't know that?

Mustainekilsemos 12-28-2005 04:35 PM

I still don't think that we should legalize drugs. Its more of a moral thing for me though not logical.

Illmatic 12-28-2005 04:36 PM

I don't know about crack, but I do know that heroin and cocaine can kill you after using it just once. So you can point fingers at how alcohol and tobacco can kill you, but as Jon Stewart said, "I've never seen anyone smoke one cigarette, then immediately vomit and die".

Bazarov 12-28-2005 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]think they don't know that?[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure they know that. But he said, that lots of people would die if heroin or other drugs was legalized. I'm just saying that alcohol is legal, yet people die from liver failure, liver cancer, drunk driving probably everyday from alcohol. And people die every day from cigs as well.

Lord Abortion 12-28-2005 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I don't know about crack, but I do know that heroin and cocaine can kill you after using it just once. So you can point fingers at how alcohol and tobacco can kill you, but as Jon Stewart said, "I've never seen anyone smoke one cigarette, then immediately vomit and die".[/QUOTE]
That is true.

And I couldn't imagine any government having the balls to pass it.
certainly in this country

Mr. Black 12-28-2005 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=Mustainekilsemos]For me it says page requested wasn't found

someone tell me what the **** this idiot is doin'[/QUOTE]
Yeh, The link has expired, sorry.

Basically he went to a government, in the UK, I forget which one, and told them to legalise Heroin.
[QUOTE=Butcher]I'm pretty sure they know that. But he said, that lots of people would die if heroin or other drugs was legalized. I'm just saying that alcohol is legal, yet people die from liver failure, liver cancer, drunk driving probably everyday from alcohol. And people die every day from cigs as well.[/QUOTE]
True.

Shred Danson 12-28-2005 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=Butcher]I'm pretty sure they know that. But he said, that lots of people would die if heroin or other drugs was legalized. I'm just saying that alcohol is legal, yet people die from liver failure, liver cancer, drunk driving probably everyday from alcohol. And people die every day from cigs as well.[/QUOTE]

Indeed, but I guess with Cigs and booze, the difference is you die a slow death :p

NP: Neverfrickenmore-The Final Product

Stoic 12-28-2005 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=Butcher]I'm pretty sure they know that. But he said, that lots of people would die if heroin or other drugs was legalized. I'm just saying that alcohol is legal, yet people die from liver failure, liver cancer, drunk driving probably everyday from alcohol. And people die every day from cigs as well.[/QUOTE]

The whole thing is quite subjective actually since today's illegal drugs were being used in every day life in older times. Coke Cola for example used to have cocaine as the main ingredient.

Mustainekilsemos 12-28-2005 04:44 PM

Can an Ipod play an AAC file? like an m4a?

Mr. Black 12-28-2005 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Indeed, but I guess with Cigs and booze, the difference is you die a slow death :p

NP: Neverfrickenmore-The Final Product[/QUOTE]
Therefore giving you more time to get off them. Also, Crack, Cocaine and Heroin are all much, much, much more addictive than cigs and alchohol. So, if it were to be legalised, stupid kids would get hold of it, and smoke, snort and stab themselves to death with it all. I'd also rather see kids smoking at school, than injecting.

Bazarov 12-28-2005 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]The whole thing is quite subjective actually since today's illegal drugs were being used in every day life in older times. Coke Cola for example used to have cocaine as the main ingredient.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I forget which world war, but in one of them the soldiers where give meth, to keep them active while out in the fields, but soon stopped when soldiers started stealing the meth supplies.

If I can find that article, I'll post it. It was kind of interesting.

Illmatic 12-28-2005 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=Butcher]I'm pretty sure they know that. But he said, that lots of people would die if heroin or other drugs was legalized. I'm just saying that alcohol is legal, yet people die from liver failure, liver cancer, drunk driving probably everyday from alcohol. And people die every day from cigs as well.[/QUOTE]

I repeat my last point.

Drinking and smoking can be controlled. Heroin and cocaine cannot.

Mr. Black 12-28-2005 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I repeat my last point.

Drinking and smoking can be controlled. Heroin and cocaine cannot.[/QUOTE]
Thats kind of what I'm getting at as well.

Bazarov 12-28-2005 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I repeat my last point.

Drinking and smoking can be controlled. Heroin and cocaine cannot.[/QUOTE]

I read it, you are right. I realize that those drugs are highly addictive and cause people to do crazy thing things to get their fix, I don't really think that heroin should be legalized, I was thinking more a long the lines when it comes to legalizing drugs, marijuana.

Moses 12-28-2005 04:56 PM

I was at Best Buy checking out Ipods and I just realized how annoying Juggalos are to me. I don't know why because I never had a hate for them before but now they're worse than emo kids in my mind. It's irrational but once I saw this kid, he had a shaved head with hair on top like a mohawk but in a ponytail, an ICP shirt on and was holding three Slipknot cd's. Slipknot only has three cd's except for the new live one. God, I have no idea where this came from but I can't stand them anymore.

Also about the legal drugs issue, I'm in no way shape or form promoting drug use because it's a dispicable habit and I can't stand being around it but think about it. If they legalized it there would be more and more of it, the demand would go down, and noone would sell it because they wouldn't be able to make money off of it. Just a theory.

Bazarov 12-28-2005 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]I was at Best Buy checking out Ipods and I just realized how annoying Juggalos are to me. I don't know why because I never had a hate for them before but now they're worse than emo kids in my mind. It's irrational but once I saw this kid, he had a shaved head with hair on top like a mohawk but in a ponytail, an ICP shirt on and was holding three Slipknot cd's. Slipknot only has three cd's except for the new live one. God, I have no idea where this came from but I can't stand them anymore.[/QUOTE]

They kind of annoy me as well. But not much, what annoys me more are the "goth" kids that always hang out at Hot Topic. I have to go the Hot Topic to return some merchandise I got for Christmas that I do not want, and when ever I go there, there is some chubby chick in all black with those super baggy pants that have one million chains hanging from the pants, and she has a million of those plastic colorful braceltes on. They annoy me more.

Illmatic 12-28-2005 05:01 PM

[QUOTE]I was at Best Buy checking out Ipods and I just realized how annoying Juggalos are to me. I don't know why because I never had a hate for them before but now they're worse than emo kids in my mind. It's irrational but once I saw this kid, he had a shaved head with hair on top like a mohawk but in a ponytail, an ICP shirt on and was holding three Slipknot cd's. Slipknot only has three cd's except for the new live one. God, I have no idea where this came from but I can't stand them anymore.[/QUOTE]

I've had the good fortune of never seeing a 'juggalo'.

Shred Danson 12-28-2005 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]I was at Best Buy checking out Ipods and I just realized how annoying Juggalos are to me. I don't know why because I never had a hate for them before but now they're worse than emo kids in my mind. It's irrational but once I saw this kid, he had a shaved head with hair on top like a mohawk but in a ponytail, an ICP shirt on and was holding three Slipknot cd's. Slipknot only has three cd's except for the new live one. God, I have no idea where this came from but I can't stand them anymore.[/QUOTE]

:lol: They're like another label of kids now haha, it's sad. You got goths, jocks, emo kids, punks, rebels, etc...now juggalos :p They've all got that same attitude, too.

What's funny is that a lot of Slipknot fans HATE juggalos.

And Slipknot has 4 CDs and the live one, just thought I'd correct that.

Illmatic 12-28-2005 05:04 PM

[QUOTE]What's funny is that a lot of Slipknot fans HATE juggalos. [/QUOTE]

I think everyone hates Juggalos.

And the weird thing is, Juggalos love that everyone hates them. Oh well, at least everyone's happy.

Moses 12-28-2005 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]:lol: They're like another label of kids now haha, it's sad. You got goths, jocks, emo kids, punks, rebels, etc...now juggalos :p They've all got that same attitude, too.

What's funny is that a lot of Slipknot fans HATE juggalos.

And Slipknot has 4 CDs and the live one, just thought I'd correct that.[/QUOTE]The other one MFKR is actually pretty good. I was actually talking about 3 that are still in print.

Mustainekilsemos 12-28-2005 05:06 PM

What the hell is a Juggalo?

Someone plz tell me can an Ipod play AAC files.

Stoic 12-28-2005 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I've had the good fortune of never seeing a 'juggalo'.[/QUOTE]

:lol: haha same here! Actually it's the first time I've heard of this term!

[QUOTE=ICB]jocks[/QUOTE]

Who are these?

[QUOTE=Butcher]she has a million of those plastic [B]colorful[/B]braceltes on.[/QUOTE]

Thought they were all dressed in black :confused:

goodnight :wave:

Moses 12-28-2005 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]Who are these?[/QUOTE]
Jocks are the guys that are really into sports, beat up nerds and mostly dumb. Somehow I fall mostly into this category just because I like sports.

Bazarov 12-28-2005 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=Mustainekilsemos]What the hell is a Juggalo?

Someone plz tell me can an Ipod play AAC files.[/QUOTE]
A Juggalo is a guy, who likes the Insane Clown Posse, Twizted, or probably any of those wierd bands off of Psykopath records


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