Demon Cleaner, Gardenia, Writhe and Space Cadet are Kyuss' best songs IMO. Tool did a good cover of Demon Cleaner but Adam messed up a few guitar parts which brang it down a few notches. I wish Josh Garcia sang like that in another Kyuss song, as at first impression I thought it was Josh Homme...which kind of made the song better.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Lateralias-Thanks for the Kyuss tracks. I only DLed Green Machine due to my connection. I just listened to it now, and judging from my first impression, I liked the song, but I don't really imagine my self buying one of their albums. Still not a bad track though. I liked intro for some reason...Just kind of wierd. :p[/QUOTE]

You should give some songs on Welcome to Sky Valley a try, in my opinion it's a different sound... with songs such as Whitewater and Demon Cleaner. If you'd like to give some of those songs a listen I can upload 'em.. but glad you like Green Machine :thumb:

It's so tedious for me to download even one song...My mom has been looking into getting some DSL, so once I get a faster type of intraweb, I will be more than obliged to check out some more Kyuss. :D

Is the only connection Kyuss has to Tool the fact that their bassist tried out for Tool's vacant position?

G mac-Oh yeah, that too. :p What's your new avatar? Something special, or just a cool picture?

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Is the only connection Kyuss has to Tool the fact that their bassist tried out for Tool's vacant position?[/QUOTE]

Tool covered Demon Cleaner with Scott Reeder, as mentioned already on this page.

[QUOTE=SaturnAscends56]The song schism is a historical reference to the division of the Christian church (into Catholic and Protestant, I think.). That event was called the Great Schism, hence the name of the song.

[B]I know the pieces fit, cause I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, fundamental differing[/B]

Maynard is pointing out that it was once whole and was able to get along.

[B]Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers' souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes, testing our communication
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us
So we cannot see to reach an end, crippling our communication[/B]

Here, the pure intention signifies the ultimate goals of christianity, juxtaposed implies the goals were compared, and the souls in motion is that the comparison rendered biased views of the goals and of the church.

[B]I know the pieces fit ‘cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame; it doesn’t mean I don’t desire
To point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication[/B]

The pieces are the branches of christianity, and the no fault shows that neither side is to blame for it, but they chose to blame each other. The rediscovery of communication is apparently what will unite the church once again.

[B]The poetry that comes from the squaring off between
And the circling is worth it, finding beauty in the dissonance[/B]

I am not too sure about this part, but I think it sounds like Maynard is referring to himself, saying that the song or poetry that resulted from the event made the event worth occuring. The beauty is the great song we hear today, the dissonance is the separation of the church.

[B]There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I’ve done the math, enough to know the dangers of a second guessing
Doomed to crumble, unless we grow, and strengthen our communication[/B]

Again, Maynard sings about how the church once was whole but fell apart, and how only communication can fix it.

[B]Cold silence has
A tendency to
Atrophy any
Sense of compassion[/B]

I think this part is basically saying the branches' refusal to work things out by compromising will cancel any chance to come to terms and reunite.

[B]Between supposed lovers
Between supposed brothers[/B]

This is just a reminder of how the sides of the church were once friends, and more than that, they were brothers.

[B]I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit[/B]

Another reminder of what could be.[/QUOTE]

Great first post, but I have to say that I completely disagree with this post. A schism usually involves a split in a religion, but it doesn't always have to be about religion. To me, personally, Lateralus deals with things involved with human behavior, becoming a better person, being a stronger person. For example, The Grudge is literally telling how it's childish to hold grudges and you shouldn't hold them, The Patient talks about having enough desire and want for something that a person can pull through, remain patient, because he knows eventually he can get what he is wanting. Schism, to me, is about a relationship. It's about a relationship that ended and the lyrics deal with why it happened, if this person should give up, etc. "I’ve done the math, enough to know the dangers of a second guessing. Doomed to crumble, unless we grow, and strengthen our communication" Meaning that he knows a second try at this relationship, even though it's very strong, will fail without talking to each other about certain things. This is just my opinion.

tool suck soooooo bad :evil:

[QUOTE=easchill]tool suck soooooo bad :evil:[/QUOTE]

Don't post here then if you think so.

he's just trolling.

i hate people that dissect fukking lyrics and give their dam theories.........

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]i hate people that dissect fukking lyrics and give their dam theories.........[/QUOTE]

You hate the people, or you hate people doing that?

There is a difference, stop hating people so much, it's not healthy.

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]i hate people that dissect fukking lyrics and give their dam theories.........[/QUOTE]

I hope your being sarcastic, because there is just nothing wrong with that at all.

figure of speech. I dont hate anyone, for real, because to HATE someone requires too much dam energy. Im too lazy to hate haha

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I hope your being sarcastic, because there is just nothing wrong with that at all.[/QUOTE]


well lets put it this way. Its about as dumb as having a painting, and having people tell you what the painter was thinking when he wrote. Frivilous!

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]well lets put it this way. Its about as dumb as having a painting, and having people tell you what the painter was thinking when he wrote. Frivilous![/QUOTE]

There is nothing wrong with sharing a theory. Coming to your own conclusion is fine. The way your saying it is as though someone said they were 100% correct.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]There is nothing wrong with sharing a theory. Coming to your own conclusion is fine. The way your saying it is as though someone said they were 100% correct.[/QUOTE]


its pointless really.

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]its pointless really.[/QUOTE]

As pointless as you complaining about it, perhaps?

[QUOTE=Shadius]As pointless as you complaining about it, perhaps?[/QUOTE]


or defending it

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]or defending it[/QUOTE]

If you can't find the real conclusion to a song (which in a Tool song's case, it's impossible), having your own conclusion makes listening infinitely better.


and defending, whining, bitching, whatever you want to call it, it's for no reason. Get over it.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]If you can't find the real conclusion to a song (which in a Tool song's case, it's impossible), having your own conclusion makes listening infinitely better.


and defending, whining, bitching, whatever you want to call it, it's for no reason. Get over it.[/QUOTE]


hmm...yea i hate it :thumb:

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]hmm...yea i hate it :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Best comeback ever?

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Best comeback ever?[/QUOTE]


haha you talk about it as if it were open to discussion. You said your peice, and obviously it didnt affect me, so i refer back to original statement

and saying "nice comeback" is worse than no comeback, especially when one wasnt intended

Could someone get me a Tool-related link? At one point, I saw a Tool fansite that had a really interesting phrase about how matter is made up of vibrations, which is sound, which in turn is music, meaning that life is music. I'm looking for the quote, but I can't remember the site it belonged to, and I tried seaching for it. Anyone have an idea?

It sounds familiar but I can't place it...doesn't one of the samples at the beginning of Third Eye say something about how life is made up of vibrations?

[QUOTE=Kage]It sounds familiar but I can't place it...doesn't one of the samples at the beginning of Third Eye say something about how life is made up of vibrations?[/QUOTE]

I have that Bill Hicks clip on my computer, and I've actually been looking for it recently. Problem is it's lost amongst the rest of my Bill Hicks stuff. When I find it I'll post it up.

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]haha you talk about it as if it were open to discussion. You said your peice, and obviously it didnt affect me, so i refer back to original statement

and saying "nice comeback" is worse than no comeback, especially when one wasnt intended[/QUOTE]

The internet made me sound like a dick. I was being sarcastic, because I thought you were being sarcastic.

Alright, enough bickering, you two.

Forming theories is great, in my opinion, becuase I always think that everyone should come away from a truly good lyricist's song with something of his own, and take his own meaning out of what is being said. That way, it's more personal and is better enjoyed.

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have contributed. *deletes last post*

[QUOTE=Kage]Alright, enough bickering, you two.

Forming theories is great, in my opinion, becuase I always think that everyone should come away from a truly good lyricist's song with something of his own, and take his own meaning out of what is being said. That way, it's more personal and is better enjoyed.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I said almost exactly that earlier.

Bicker bicker bicker.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Yeah, I said almost exactly that earlier.

Bicker bicker bicker.[/QUOTE]
:cool:

[QUOTE=Kage]It sounds familiar but I can't place it...doesn't one of the samples at the beginning of Third Eye say something about how life is made up of vibrations?[/QUOTE]
As cool as that one is, no. I don't think it's a Bill Hicks quote, and the phrase I'm looking for hasn't actually appeared in any Tool song. I know it was on a website, though.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]As cool as that one is, no. I don't think it's a Bill Hicks quote, and the phrase I'm looking for hasn't actually appeared in any Tool song. I know it was on a website, though.[/QUOTE]

The link was recently posted in this thread, I can't find it though.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]Could someone get me a Tool-related link? At one point, I saw a Tool fansite that had a really interesting phrase about how matter is made up of vibrations, which is sound, which in turn is music, meaning that life is music. I'm looking for the quote, but I can't remember the site it belonged to, and I tried seaching for it. Anyone have an idea?[/QUOTE]


That was a brilliant quote.

[url=http://www.toolpantheon.com]Since the one thing we can say about fundamental matter is, that it is vibrating. And since all vibrations are theoretically sound, then it is not unreasonable to suggest that the universe is music and should be perceived as such.[/url]

Check out the wicked wallpapers as well. :D

Kurpptguy- I know this is somewhat belated, but either way...You don't like it when someone shares an intelligent lyrical dissection? That guy's post was probably the most intelligent thing I've seen posted in this thread in maybe a week. It showed a unique perspective that I previously did not know of. Now I think of Schism in a different light.(To a certain extent, of course.) forums are all about sharing information and finding out new things, and sharing lyrical interpretations are just one way of doing so.

I don't know if anyone said this yet and im not about to read the next 325 pages of this thread, but...

TOOL F*ING ROCKS

Nope, I don't believe we've been over that yet. Welcome to the forums.

Since the one thing we can say about fundamental matter is, that it is vibrating. And since all vibrations are theoretically sound, then it is not unreasonable to suggest that the universe is music and should be perceived as such.


After it says that he says "And here's Tom with the weather"

I love it.

SaturnAscend's 1st post>drunkenboi's 1st post

NP: Die Eier Von Satan

I haven't seen this done before, so meh, here goes-What are some of your guys' favorite solos by Jones? I know there aren't too many, but whatever, it's worth a try.

I'd say Parabola's solo is my favorite. Simple of course, but still very sweet. The second solo in Third Eye is great too.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]SaturnAscend's 1st post>drunkenboi's 1st post

NP: Die Eier Von Satan

I haven't seen this done before, so meh, here goes-What are some of your guys' favorite solos by Jones? I know there aren't too many, but whatever, it's worth a try.

I'd say Parabola's solo is my favorite. Simple of course, but still very sweet. The second solo in Third Eye is great too.[/QUOTE]
I love the first solo in Lateralus' title track, it's extremely cool and fun to play. The one from Parabola is really sweet as well, and of course there's no excluding the Third Eye one. I can't think of any others at the moment.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]That was a brilliant quote.

[url=http://www.toolpantheon.com]Since the one thing we can say about fundamental matter is, that it is vibrating. And since all vibrations are theoretically sound, then it is not unreasonable to suggest that the universe is music and should be perceived as such.[/url]

Check out the wicked wallpapers as well. :D[/QUOTE]
Thanks so much. Will do.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]SaturnAscend's 1st post>drunkenboi's 1st post

NP: Die Eier Von Satan

I haven't seen this done before, so meh, here goes-What are some of your guys' favorite solos by Jones? I know there aren't too many, but whatever, it's worth a try.

I'd say Parabola's solo is my favorite. Simple of course, but still very sweet. The second solo in Third Eye is great too.[/QUOTE]
Parabola's solo has to be his best composed. It changes keys with the song and sounds ****ing awesome.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]SaturnAscend's 1st post>drunkenboi's 1st post

NP: Die Eier Von Satan

I haven't seen this done before, so meh, here goes-What are some of your guys' favorite solos by Jones? I know there aren't too many, but whatever, it's worth a try.

I'd say Parabola's solo is my favorite. Simple of course, but still very sweet. The second solo in Third Eye is great too.[/QUOTE]
The first big solo in Triad, the second Reflection solo, the Stinkfist solo, the second Lateralus solo, the Parabola solo (which I'm always singing to myself...), and the Cold and Ugly solo (very underappreciated).