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oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 11:13 AM

[QUOTE=Obelisk;16012173]In my day, it was uphill both ways, and there were only 2 channels on TV.[/QUOTE]

In my day it was uphill icey snowey and populated by poisonous lions



Yes lions

Mr Pink 02-21-2008 11:14 AM

BERK.....You are alive? Thought you were gonna be killed or something???

Mr Pink 02-21-2008 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=oliv_da_skinmasher;16012204]In my day it was uphill icey snowey and populated by poisonous lions



Yes lions[/QUOTE]

At night, the ice weasels come.............

Sunshine 02-21-2008 11:20 AM

You guys are silly.

oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 11:21 AM

NO eva. We know too much.


BEWARE THE ICE WEASELS

Kainen 02-21-2008 11:26 AM

marmalade covered goats of doom. :thumb:

oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 11:36 AM

Indeed

Drum Phil 02-21-2008 11:58 AM

Ive just changed browser :)

Sunshine 02-21-2008 11:58 AM

To?

Drum Phil 02-21-2008 11:59 AM

Bon Echo

Sunshine 02-21-2008 12:03 PM

I have no idea what that is.
Hows it like?

Drum Phil 02-21-2008 12:05 PM

Its pretty much identical to firefox. All my firefox extensions etc are still there.

Seems slimmed down and faster though.

oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 12:05 PM

Fair does.

Retarded Chipple 02-21-2008 12:11 PM

I wish my hi hats were darker and more mellow.

Opinions on burying them in the ground or somehow getting them caked in dirt?

Drum Phil 02-21-2008 12:11 PM

All the firefox files i found were corrupt so i went into the mirror sites and accidentally installed Bon Echo. Turns out its a different build version or something, yet fully compatible with firefox.

Sunshine 02-21-2008 12:18 PM

Hmm.
Sounds interesting, but not enough as to make me try it out.

Drum Phil 02-21-2008 12:24 PM

S'pretty spanky. Using version 2.0.0.12 of the Firefox engine.

Kainen 02-21-2008 12:35 PM

i get to deal with the last IE at work....

Seafroggys 02-21-2008 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=Mr Pink;16012202]When I was in college there were NO computers, iPods, DVDs, CDs, internet, and no AIDS. We marveled at the burning ball of gas in the sky that warmed us but went away each day when we or someone made it mad, all our cars had V8s and a minimum of 300 hp, there were no cell phones, the Soviet Union was still a bad assed mofo, disco and polyester was in, and Rogers, Slingerland and Ludwig were all around, making all their drums in the USA.[/QUOTE]

too be honest, that actually sounds better than right now.

Minus polyester and disco. Maybe another 5 years earlier, and that'd be cool.

Drum Phil 02-21-2008 12:37 PM

[quote=Kainen;16012490]i get to deal with the last IE at work....[/quote]

I had to deal with it to get hold of Bon Echo. It reminded me of why i hate it.

oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 12:37 PM

I agree with that actually froggy lol

Chippy569 02-21-2008 12:38 PM

[QUOTE=Janeway;16011348]In the foreword to both of my bibles, it states that it is the word of God. The authentic, inerrant, holy-a[B]s[/B]s word of the one and only God.

I don't get how religious moderates can interpret the Bible loosely, when it states so explicitly that it is the word of God, and all dissenters shall deal with the wrath of God. Not only does it do this once, it does it hundreds of times, over and over and over again in both the old and new testaments.[/quote]
this is my belief, so your mileage may vary. But as I understand it, "God" gave us the ability to understand symbols, metaphors, and other literary devices. It makes sense to me that incorporating those deeper thought processes in His word would be a natural step.

[quote]It f[B]u[/B]cking urges you to take it literally.[/quote]. Again, if you took something like [i]Fahrenheit 451[/i] straight up literally, you'd miss a lot of the points Bradbury had to make. [quote]God doesn't say, "Hey, you know, I created you guys to evolve, and I know that in a few more hundred years you guys'll learn that illness isn't caused by demons, that the earth revolves around the sun, and a whole plethora of other life-changing, immensely important things, and it's cool and stuff if you want to just interpret my book to suit your evolving self, as long as you still tote it around."[/quote]
what are you trying to say?

[quote]At least the extremists are devoted to their delusions. Moderates just contort it to try and make it fit with modernity, rather than just accepting the absolute improbability of an all-powerful wizard who sh[B]i[/B]t the universe out in seven days.[/quote]

[quote]Morals don't need to be derived from a book. It's dangerous to derive morals from any book because you're abandoning logical thought for something totally irrational, written thousands of years ago by people who had even less of a clue than we do.[/quote]
Say i have a list of moral values. They're written in a book. Now ignore them for a while. Use your "rational, logical thought" to create your own morals. Could some of your morals that you thought up on your rational, logical self also be the same as were written in the book?
Similarly, can someone logically observe the list, rationally say "yeah those are good" and then accept the behaviours into one's life?
Claiming that everyone who accepts the bible's morals to be irrational and illogical is sheer ignorance on your part.

[quote]Some of the most immoral people are the most pious sons of b[B]i[/B]tches you'll ever see.[/QUOTE]
how can you define immoral? do you mean "immoral" as in against what the bible says? in your last paragraph, you said following the bible's morals is illogical and irrational, but now you claim to accept them as your own and use them to judge "immoral" people? i'm confused.

Nevertheless, some of the most "immoral" people simply have a different set of morals. "immoral" to you can be "moral" to another, similar to how one culture's traditions may be taboo in another culture.





please, it's not hard to make a legitimate complaint against organized religion. but generalizations and hypocrisy isn't the way to go about it.

Win A Rabbit 02-21-2008 12:39 PM

so there's like nobody donating to our silent auction. :(

my email is the main contact email, and i've had one person contact me. today i opened up my inbox to find 3 new emails, thought to myself "ooh, atleast one of those will be a donation", and then found they were all from the parent council person. lame.

Seafroggys 02-21-2008 12:41 PM

[QUOTE=Chippy569;16012504]please, it's not hard to make a legitimate complaint against organized religion. but generalizations and hypocrisy isn't the way to go about it.[/QUOTE]

That seems to be the argument everytime someone makes a legitimate complaint.

TTTSNB 02-21-2008 12:43 PM

I respect your beliefs Chippy, but I just have one question. I've always believed that most religious people practice their religion because they a) want comfort for their problems in everyday life, and b) want to know where they're going after death. Now I'm curious why you couldn't solve a) with one's own intellectual thought, and advice from other, possibly wiser people.

oliv_da_skinmasher 02-21-2008 12:45 PM

I have no problem with religion I just don't buy it personally.

Drum Phil 02-21-2008 12:51 PM

Jebus is my homeslice yo.

You dig it dawg?

Sunshine 02-21-2008 12:53 PM

Haha, I used to be Catholic because that's what I was trained to be by my parents.
Now that I'm in college, I still believe the general big picture, but the details irk me.
Specific religion is pretty messed up, but if you take the very basic beliefs of most religions, it doesn't sound too bad.
Y'know.
Don't kill people, don't steal ****, don't be a douchebag.
I think it's a pretty good way to live.

Seafroggys 02-21-2008 12:53 PM

Has anybody here bought anything from Musician's Friend before?

I'm thinking of getting a headphone amp w/ 4 headphone combo. Granted the headphones are probably really cheap (the combo is $50 more than the headphone amp by itself), and I need it by late next week.

EDIT: You don't have to be religious to have those non-killing, non-stealing morals.

Win A Rabbit 02-21-2008 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=Janeway;16011395]Yes, but at least they might lead someone who isn't an extremist nut case to at least question their faith. Even if those quotes are "taken out of context," it would still lead someone to at least think about it, which is an improvement on blindly following.[/QUOTE]
btw, i wasn't going to reply, but the topic's been brought back up.

watch this:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKG3iC8MeGs[/url]

if you don't reconsider the world around you after watching, you are an extremist nut case.

:confused:


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