[QUOTE=spirit;15223271]Bosphorus Traditional Series may be you kind of thing, ditto Istanbul Agop Trad series.

[url]www.cymbalsonly.com[/url] - soundfiles of both companies, various lines and models[/QUOTE]

This guy's got the right idea. He's sexy as well.

Holy jesus phil, those are gorgeous.

Edit: The 13" k custom dark hats sound pretty good. 14" byzance dark hats sound like sex, hopefully I can try them out sometime in my shop.

They're visually and aurully pleasing in every possible way.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;15245309]They're visually and aurully pleasing in every possible way.[/QUOTE]

Orally? Oh wait, i guess that would be when you are saying it, not hearing it.

Firefox says that it is aurally.

I'm looking for a cymbal pack for practice at home. I play heavy metal. I was having a look at the Sabian AA Metal X Box set (20 Ride, 16 crash, 14 Hats), and the Zildjian ZHT Rock cymbal pack. I could get the Zildjian pack £40 cheaper than the Sabian. Does anyone have any experience with these and could offer their opinions?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ronald_villiers;15252141]I'm looking for a cymbal pack for practice at home. I play heavy metal. I was having a look at the Sabian AA Metal X Box set (20 Ride, 16 crash, 14 Hats), and the Zildjian ZHT Rock cymbal pack. I could get the Zildjian pack £40 cheaper than the Sabian. Does anyone have any experience with these and could offer their opinions?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

It depends on how each set sounds to you, but each has its pros and cons.

The Sabian set is a pro set, being AA, however, being Metal X, it may not be versatile. You may play heavy metal now, but it's always nice to have the option.

The Zildjian set is B12 alloy, which isn't a bad thing per se, but the general consensus is that B20 alloy gives the richest sound. Being of 'Rock' stock, they may, or may not be thinner than the Metal-X's, and so may be more versatile.

Personally, I'd really recommend getting pro level cymbals, one piece at a time, but that's just me.

Oh, so Phil, I assume the dark hats sound just as sexy open, yes? I'm hoping so.

What do you guys think of the 20" Zildjian Oriental China?

Classic or Trash? The Classic has an amazingly warm and trashy sound. It's a huge sounds that swells up and is almost a soft kind of china. I absolutely love mine and recommend checking them out.

Sorry, its the Thrash China.

I have the 18". Its quite trashy and loud and semi bright but more dark. So the 20" might be darker and louder with a longer decay.

[QUOTE=ronald_villiers;15252141]I'm looking for a cymbal pack for practice at home. I play heavy metal. I was having a look at the Sabian AA Metal X Box set (20 Ride, 16 crash, 14 Hats), and the Zildjian ZHT Rock cymbal pack. I could get the Zildjian pack £40 cheaper than the Sabian. Does anyone have any experience with these and could offer their opinions?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I would look at the Sabian XS20 set, it is similar to ZHT price wise. If you're going for AAs they are considered "pro", i.e. higher price and quality, but they're good cymbals, thjough personally as someone already said I would go for something more versatile, e.g. the AA 'normal' set (AA medium thin crash, medium ride, regular hats) or AAX set (stage ride, stage crash, stage hats), and they will still be amazing for playing metal. I think there may be also an "AA rock set" with AA rock hats and crash and some sort of ride, but I could be wrong, it has been known (!).

[QUOTE=Daven;15259103]Sorry, its the Thrash China.[/QUOTE]

The china trash has a very short decay from what I remember and a very 'trashy' sound, if that at all helps

[quote=Mike Goes Numb;15252348]Oh, so Phil, I assume the dark hats sound just as sexy open, yes? I'm hoping so.[/quote]

Hell yes.

I say when we hit Pg 300 we start Version 2.0 seeing as bobby_johnny hasn't been around in a long *** time haha.

[QUOTE=White;15296809]I say when we hit Pg 300 we start Version 2.0 seeing as bobby_johnny hasn't been around in a long *** time haha.[/QUOTE]

no, no need for new ones. Besides, I'm only on page 198.

nah...149

the cymbal finder is a legacy...it will never die.

[QUOTE=enemytopublic2;15299491]nah...149

the cymbal finder is a legacy...it will never die.[/QUOTE]

it will not close. ever.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny;15299854]it will not close. ever.[/QUOTE]

He returns.....................where have you been! haha I use to ahve you on my MSN lol, I remember you and The Glass Prison were my two favorite MXers lol. but time has moved on and now, you are nothing.............haha kiddin, yo

i'm working right now :P

just live has been busy for many things is all

[QUOTE=Ollie The Drumming Legend;15275015]or AAX set (stage ride, stage crash, stage hats), and they will still be amazing for playing metal.[/QUOTE]

i use a AAX stage ride (20") and a AAX stage crash (18"). the crash would be great for metal, but i dont really see the ride being used for metal, imo. you could deff use it for metal, but i wouldn't.

i love my 16" AAX Stage crash

I'm not as keen on the stage stuff. I much prefer the studio ones

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny;15300826]i love my 16" AAX Stage crash[/QUOTE]

i have the 18 and 16 and they are both sweet ol caca.

I just found a shop near me selling Bosphoros, Istanbul Agops AND Mehmets! Awesome!

Recently cracked my B8 crash. Ive had it for 3 years and i batter it shitless. But i have good technique i think it's just wear of a poor cymbal that cracked it. It's about half a cm long the crack.

Looking for:

Thin crash
Medium Decay
Open's up pretty easily and well
About 16" or 17".

Ideas?

I want it to explode!

17" A Custon crash, for the explosion, projection?

17" AAXplosion.
16" K Custom Fast Crash?

[QUOTE=the_pure_drummer;15307481]Recently cracked my B8 crash. Ive had it for 3 years and i batter it poopless. But i have good technique i think it's just wear of a poor cymbal that cracked it. It's about half a cm long the crack.

Looking for:

Thin crash
Medium Decay
Open's up pretty easily and well
About 16" or 17".

Ideas?

I want it to explode![/QUOTE]

Even though they're hard to find, my Amedia crash is paper thin, has a decent decay, and opens up pretty well....its is fairly dark, though. And its an 18".

[quote=Drum Phil;15307563][B]17" AAXplosion.[/B]
16" K Custom Fast Crash?[/quote]

this.

The aaxplosion line is fcking beautiful