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Scooch 10-09-2005 01:56 PM

For those saying Waters' voice sounds like crap you obviously haven't seen his newest dvd In the Flesh, he sounds very good.

DeusExMachina 10-09-2005 02:00 PM

[QUOTE=Scooch]For those saying Waters' voice sounds like crap you obviously haven't seen his newest dvd In the Flesh, he sounds very good.[/QUOTE]
That was from over 5 years ago. A person's voice can change quite a bit in 5 years.

Ishy 10-09-2005 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]That was from over 5 years ago. A person's voice can change quite a bit in 5 years.[/QUOTE]


i think his voice was just bad in that one performance

Kingofdudes 10-09-2005 02:38 PM

[QUOTE=Scooch]For those saying Waters' voice sounds like crap you obviously haven't seen his newest dvd In the Flesh, he sounds very good.[/QUOTE]
Way to make assumptions. I have heard it and he sounds terrible on WYWH.

moaner 10-09-2005 02:40 PM

Roger's never been a very technicallt competent singer, but in a bob dylan kinda way i've always foud his voice fairly pleasant.

Kingofdudes 10-09-2005 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=moaner]Roger's never been a very technicallt competent singer, but in a bob dylan kinda way i've always foud his voice fairly pleasant.[/QUOTE]
I do too back in his early years. But at one point in time after he left Floyd, he somehow messed up his voice, making him sound terrible.

Dr. Jake Destructo 10-09-2005 02:45 PM

I prefer Gilmour to Waters when talking about singing ability.

Fnnrqwin 10-09-2005 03:00 PM

Totally. Gilmour is one of the finest rock singers of all time, but Roger Waters really never was that good of a singer. Sure, Shine On is one of the greatest vocal performances in any Pink Floyd song, but that's one of the few exceptions...

shamed-angel 10-09-2005 03:33 PM

Waters can't sing for sh[B]i[/B]t. But he's an incredible lyricist. Possibly the best ever IMO.

BigTrav415 10-09-2005 08:35 PM

Remember when I said I was gonna make that mix CD? I can't find any of my CDs, and although I have them on my old computer so I could YSI them to myself, my little sister uses that computer now, and won't let me get on :angry: Right now I'm just listening to that Pigs on the Wing solo... over and over again. It's amazing :D

temporary 10-10-2005 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]Waters can't sing for sh[B]i[/B]t. But he's an incredible lyricist. Possibly the best ever IMO.[/QUOTE]

Waters can't sing for s[i]h[/i]it? What are you talking about? Have you ever actually listened to Shine On, Welcome to the Machine or Nobody Home?

BigTrav415 10-10-2005 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=Obi One Kenodi]Waters can't sing for s[i]h[/i]it? What are you talking about? Have you ever actually listened to Shine On, Welcome to the Machine or Nobody Home?[/QUOTE]
I agree in certain respects, I think his voice isn't amazing, but the amount of soul and emotion he puts into it makes up for it :D

Krabsworth 10-10-2005 03:20 PM

Anyone reading Nick Mason's book?

Kingofdudes 10-10-2005 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=The Krabsman]Anyone reading Nick Mason's book?[/QUOTE]
I read it in early September I think.

Shazzam 10-10-2005 03:47 PM

[QUOTE=The Krabsman]Anyone reading Nick Mason's book?[/QUOTE]

I just ordered it on Amazon, hopefully it's as good as everyone says it is.

robo2448 10-10-2005 03:47 PM

I like Waters singing on Sheep. Nobody Home has incredible singing. Just fits the music perfectly. I think Roger actually had better range than Gilmour, but I just prefer Gilmour's voice for some reason.

Kingofdudes 10-10-2005 03:56 PM

Waters having better range? I disagree with that, I have heard Gilmour sing a wide range of notes, while Roger seems to try to stick in his comfort zone.

robo2448 10-10-2005 04:00 PM

[QUOTE=Kingofdudes]Waters having better range? I disagree with that, I have heard Gilmour sing a wide range of notes, while Roger seems to try to stick in his comfort zone.[/QUOTE]

I don't know. I always thought Gilmour had more range, but after hearing the scream in Careful With That Axe, Eugene I've kind of changed my mind. Of course I don't know if you factor screams like that in when your deciding how much range they have.

Gilmour's voice has also stayed pretty much the same and is still great, whereas Roger's voice is kind of shot. Not bad, but Roger's voice just isn't what it used to be.

Kingofdudes 10-10-2005 04:11 PM

Thats an inward scream he does in Careful With That Axe, Eugene. It can be used to make very low/high pitches. But it can also damage your voice if you do it too often/wrong. I really wouldnt consider it part of his range, seeing that it is only useful when a scream is needed, and not regular singing.

Hmmm I think I am seeing a connection here

classicrockman 10-10-2005 04:17 PM

I like it when they incorporate both of they're voices ("Comfortably Numb").

robo2448 10-10-2005 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=classicrockman]I like it when they incorporate both of they're voices ("Comfortably Numb").[/QUOTE]

I like when they do that on The Thin Ice and Mother. Both are such awesome songs, but are too short and so underrated.

classicrockman 10-10-2005 04:21 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]I like when they do that on The Thin Ice and Mother. Both are such awesome songs, but are too short and so underrated.[/QUOTE]
I like when the electric guitar kicks in on "Mother." :)

/starts to air guitar

robo2448 10-10-2005 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=classicrockman]I like when the electric guitar kicks in on "Mother." :)

/starts to air guitar[/QUOTE]

That's such an emotional solo. It's such a simple solo, but it's one of my all-time favorites from Gilmour. Gives me goosebumps every time I hear it.

I like the extended version of Mother from Is There Anybody Out There: The Wall Live.

TYPUNK 10-10-2005 04:30 PM

What can I say? Pink Floyd rules, they are one of the greatest song writers of all time. Time is my favourite Pink Floyd song right not. I have the wall albulm and Darkside of the Moon CD. I have a Pink Floyd hat. Here is a pic of it ,
[img]http://www.theweathermen.com/acatalog/floyd_darkside_hat_f.jpg[/img]

classicrockman 10-10-2005 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=TYPUNK]What can I say? Pink Floyd rules, they are one of the greatest song writers of all time. Time is my favourite Pink Floyd song right not. I have the wall albulm and Darkside of the Moon CD. I have a Pink Floyd hat. Here is a pic of it ,
[img]http://www.theweathermen.com/acatalog/floyd_darkside_hat_f.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Nice hat.

Yield 10-10-2005 05:04 PM

Who sings on "The Trial"
I know Waters does, but who else

standard 10-10-2005 05:19 PM

As far as I know only Waters.

TYPUNK 10-10-2005 05:23 PM

Pink Floyds Drummer = ???

robo2448 10-10-2005 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=TYPUNK]Pink Floyds Drummer = ???[/QUOTE]

Nick Mason was their drummer, and was the only one who was always a member of the band.

Yield 10-10-2005 05:29 PM

[QUOTE=standard]As far as I know only Waters.[/QUOTE]
I don't think that Waters sung as the Judge

magicbus 10-10-2005 05:51 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]I like when they do that on The Thin Ice and Mother. Both are such awesome songs, but are too short and so underrated.[/QUOTE]

I love when the solos hit on both of those songs. It's just perfect timing, and they're both so emotional. Especially on The Thin Ice in the movie, when they start showing the blood as soon as the solo happens. THAT gives me goosebumps everytime.

BigTrav415 10-10-2005 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=TYPUNK]Pink Floyds Drummer = ???[/QUOTE]
<-- :cool:

TYPUNK 10-10-2005 06:17 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Nick Mason was their drummer, and was the only one who was always a member of the band.[/QUOTE]

I thought David Gilmour was always in it. I knew Roger Waters wasnt becasue he left or w/e.

standard 10-10-2005 06:28 PM

No! Gilmour came in as a replacement for Syd.


[QUOTE=FLOYD_FOREVER]I don't think that Waters sung as the Judge[/QUOTE]


I am pretty sure it's him with some kind of effect.

TYPUNK 10-10-2005 06:31 PM

OH! Ok so I guess original band was roger waters, syd barret and nick mason. then syd left and david gilmour came in. i think im forgeting some1 =/

Riva 10-10-2005 06:32 PM

Waters sang as the judge, he just growled. I can emulate the same growl exactly, minus the accent, of course. :p

Waters has a good range, but Gilmour's is far better. And Gilmour has a far higher falsetto, whereas Water's only has that high pitched scream. That being said, I think Waters had the more emotional, cultured tone, and Gilmour had the smoother, melodic tone.

BludgeonySteve 10-10-2005 07:52 PM

It would seem kind of weird when Pink Floyd performs the Wall for Rodger to be the judge. He's Pink throughout the whole thing and it would probably throw me off. On the Live in Berlin performance with all of those special guests, I think someone else sings it.

BigTrav415 10-10-2005 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=TYPUNK]OH! Ok so I guess original band was roger waters, syd barret and nick mason. then syd left and david gilmour came in. i think im forgeting some1 =/[/QUOTE]
Rick Wright, the keyboardist. He has't technically been in the whole time b/c he got fired by Waters/left on own accord/was in Greece vacationing during a recording session (no one seems to actually know) but he was hired as a session musician for the Wall tour, and ended up being the only 'member' to make any money off it (the others went bankrupt because they spent their own money :lol: ) Gilmour re-memberized him when Waters left.

Riva 10-10-2005 08:00 PM

[QUOTE=RNR]It would seem kind of weird when Pink Floyd performs the Wall for Rodger to be the judge. He's Pink throughout the whole thing and it would probably throw me off. On the Live in Berlin performance with all of those special guests, I think someone else sings it.[/QUOTE]

Well, in some of the other later shows on the Wall tour, he actually hired a bassist so he could dedicate himself to acting out the various characters.

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]Rick Wright, the keyboardist. He has't technically been in the whole time b/c he got fired by Waters/left on own accord/was in Greece vacationing during a recording session (no one seems to actually know) but he was hired as a session musician for the Wall tour, and ended up being the only 'member' to make any money off it (the others went bankrupt because they spent their own money :lol: ) Gilmour re-memberized him when Waters left.[/QUOTE]

Did anyone else notice on Live8 the cameras kind of "forgot" about Rick? There was three shots of him, and one was simply because there was a group hug. :-/

magicbus 10-10-2005 08:02 PM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Did anyone else notice on Live8 the cameras kind of "forgot" about Rick? There was three shots of him, and one was simply because there was a group hug. :-/[/QUOTE]

Yea, I noticed they didn't show him very much. I was a little disappointed, because he's already so unnoticed as it is. But he's still awesome :)


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