I havent tried one but i hear the sustain, volume and decay are much lower/shorter and its fairly trashy.

[QUOTE=ant_182;15095793]I wont be crashing it, ill have to figure a way to use my sweet ride as a crash ride :D[/QUOTE]

I thought sweet rides were pretty much crash-rides anyways.

What's the difference between the platinum and not-platinum rock rides??

[QUOTE=Ollie The Drumming Legend;15134285]I thought sweet rides were pretty much crash-rides anyways.

What's the difference between the platinum and not-platinum rock rides??[/QUOTE]

To the best of my knowledge, a very thin layer of platinum.

Heya. I'm looking for an all-around china, medium sustain and fairly trashy but not excessively so, but nonetheless I want it to definitely sound like a china if you get what I mean.

Current other cymbals:

13 a custom mastersound hats
16 hh med thin crash
17 a custom projection crash
20 k custom dry ride

I was considering maybe a Zildjian A china (high or low), or oriental classic china, in something like 16 - 19" size. Any ideas?

18" Oriental

[quote=Ollie The Drumming Legend;15134285]I thought sweet rides were pretty much crash-rides anyways.

What's the difference between the platinum and not-platinum rock rides??[/quote]

A silver coating. Makes them sound like an A/A Custom hybrid :)

Nicest cymbals zildjian ever made.

[quote=Ollie The Drumming Legend;15134503]Heya. I'm looking for an all-around china, medium sustain and fairly trashy but not excessively so, but nonetheless I want it to definitely sound like a china if you get what I mean.

Current other cymbals:

13 a custom mastersound hats
16 hh med thin crash
17 a custom projection crash
20 k custom dry ride

I was considering maybe a Zildjian A china (high or low), or oriental classic china, in something like 16 - 19" size. Any ideas?[/quote]

18" China boy Low. It's a wonderful china and it's awesome for riding.

Hey I need some suggestions for hi-hats.

I want something bright sounding, that does not sound too metallic when played close but is crisp as well. Rather bright when playing open.

Appreciate the help.

A/A Custom Mastersounds. If that's too bright try the K's
AAXcellerators. If that's too bright, try the HHX's
Paiste *insert series here* soundedges.

[QUOTE=santi3hg;15135628]Hey I need some suggestions for hi-hats.

I want something bright sounding, that does not sound too metallic when played close but is crisp as well. Rather bright when playing open.

Appreciate the help.[/QUOTE]

Try the normal 14" Zildjian A Custom hats as well as the Sabian Vaults.

i have the a custom hats and i love them. they're pretty bright. i wouldnt go any brighter myself. but great hats

13 a custom mastersounds are more or less as bright as you can go, as far as I've played on.

I would try normal a customs, or maybe the mastersounds, definitely 14", or perhaps the normal As. If you go K then I would get definitely mastersounds. Well, I say that but I haven't played any for ages, so...

Try some AA regular hats?

Paiste signature sound edges, or else the 2002 ones/

paiste 2002 sound edges,
a mastersounds
a custom mastersounds :)

Thanks guys, I'll go with the Sabian and Paiste mentioned.

I've tried the a/a custom mastersounds but absolutely hate the sound of them closed and they sound alright to me open.

Well the vaults are basically replicas of the normal A Customs.

I'll try out the Xcelerators series or however they are properly named. They have stage, studio, and what other type of hats? They also got HHXelerators now as well right?

They also have Fusions if i'm not mistaken. They might just be 13" or something though.

Fusions have an unlathed, flat/drilled bottom i think.

I haven't even heard of these fusions. Don't think any store near me stocks them.

They're pretty nice.

Damo has the bottom of one on his hats.

The Fusion bottom hat is unlathed, is very thick and has two holes drilled in the bell for a tighter, higher pitched bell sound.

The waviness of both the Mastrsound and Xcellerator hats will make them considerably darker to listen to than a fusion set of hihats.

Damo are those hats that Sabian as heavily out there in production and in stores or nah? Sounds like something I'm looking for.

im looking for a good bell, like the zil-bell, but im not really of fan of it...

i have a flat ride cymbal so this will be like a rc bell for me so thats the sound im going for..

just about anyone will tell you that the stagg black metal bells pwn all :P i don't have experience with them but thats ur most likely answer i believe.

anyone have experience with the LP Ice Bells?

yeah ive sean those, is there any where i can get a soundclip for those? ive checked
the stagg website and its no go...

hmm im not forsure tbh. like i said idk much about them do to the lack of experience but that is what most people will recommend especially for the price.

thats the thing, even if i got one i wouldent know what size to get cause i cant hear em,

guitar center doesent stock stagg, nither do my local 5* drum shop, or anywhere else for that matter, and theresite dosent have em soooo..

i might try to email there customer support

I can record a very basic sound clip of the black metal bell if you want.

phil could you post a picture of how you have it setup on your set as well plz? rep+ :D

[QUOTE=fastlane;15170190]phil could you post a picture of how you have it setup on your set as well plz? rep+ :D[/QUOTE]

Take at look at his other thread, there are pictures of the whole setup inc. the bell, as far as I can tell....

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=534478[/url]

Hopefully that helps :)